breaking: Gerry Adams Arrested in connection to McConville - MOD WARNING First Post

bumper234

Banjo String wrote: »

Well when two of the biggest self pontificating posters on the thread that can barely go a post without using their favourite term "whataboutery" have to resort to such pettiness, it is worth pointing out.

SF supporters are ugly says one, yeah and they dress bad says the other.:pac:

Ok

Watch the video

Let us know where the camera shows a good looking person.

Iwasfrozen

NipNip wrote: »

Are we thinking along the lines of apartheid here?

No, that was one state.

tomwaterford

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

For the chance at a referendum, the nationalists are administrating British rule in exchange for a chance at unification every 7 years.

The GFA favors neither side, it was a fair deal imo that's why you have hardliners on either side that are unhappy with it.

As Jon Snow says a good deal is one where both parties walk away unhappy.

there is not a chance...there will be a referendum...they are administering power...as the other option is return to conflict...that previsously ended in stalemate...with loyalists (with help of britin) finishing it with mini massacres...unless the ira were to follow them into the mire and be more ruthless than them (which they are more than capable) it will only end with a disproportionate high number of innocent killed

Iwasfrozen

tomwaterford wrote: »

there is not a chance...there will be a referendum...they are administering power...as the other option is return to conflict...that previsously ended in stalemate...with loyalists (with help of britin) finishing it with mini massacres...unless the ira were to follow them into the mire and be more ruthless than them (which they are more than capable) it will only end with a disproportionate high number of innocent killed

I said a chance at unification, not a chance at a referendum. Which (I assumed was) needless to say is what a referendum is.

To say that the GFA was some sort of nationalist victory is wrong, it was a settlement, and a distasteful one at that for both sides.

NipNip

Anyhoo............

Had my SF candidate here today. He thinks job-bridge is slave labour. I likes him. We had a good old natter. He was on about something GA said last night I think - FG pass the profits on to the rich and the losses on to the poor. Sums it up quite aptly I think.

I asked him whether they were getting any flak while canvassing - he said that it was quite the opposite actually!

PS. He was well dressed. I wasn't. 'Cos I was in the middle of de-cluttering cupboards.

tomwaterford

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I said a chance at unification, not a chance at a referendum. Which needless to say is what a referendum is.

To say that the GFA was some sort of nationalist victory is wrong, it was a settlement, and a distasteful one at that for both sides.

if referendum passes...it will be reunification
it was a settlement...it was no victory for anyone...but it did help to settle many issues...however to dress it up as a prue success for unionists...is short term in extreme...no one won/came out shining from the troubles

NipNip

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

No, that was one state.

So - are you going to displace all the people who happen to be in the wrong 'state' when you draw your little dividing line in this parallel universe you appear to be occupying?

Iwasfrozen

Banjo String wrote: »

Well I for one couldn't give a bollox how anyone dresses. Politician or member of the public.

I'm odd like that though.

Yes you do, we all judge a person by their appearance either consciously or sub-consciously. It's human nature whether you admit it or not.

NipNip wrote: »

So - are you going to displace all the people who happen to be in the wrong 'state' when you draw your little dividing line in this parallel universe you appear to be occupying?

No,

tomwaterford wrote: »

if referendum passes...it will be reunification
it was a settlement...it was no victory for anyone...but it did help to settle many issues...however to dress it up as a prue success for unionists...is short term in extreme...no one won/came out shining from the troubles

Yes so the referendum is a chance. The word "if" signifies conditional tense.

It's not a victory for either side, it was a settlement, distasteful to both sides.

LordSutch

The one thing that sticks in my mind from the whole affair is the rather sinister way the Sinn Fein cabal "tribe" reacted to the questioning of Gerry Adams.

Looking at Martin McGuinness and Gerry Kelly's almost shrill demonisation of the police & the holding of 'their man' made me feel a little uneasy, and certainly backed up my perception of who & what they really are! (we may withdraw our support for the police) was hinted at.
The Gerry Kelly speech outside the police staton in particular with the mohicin henchmen hovering around him looked menacing if nothing else, and then there was the saintly Mural of their bearded leader that went up nearly before Adams went into the police station.

Oh Yes, and dont forget the image of Adams shaking the hand of Mandela, please give me a break :cool:

I can only guess that the next SF move would have been a mass hunger strike followed by the banging of bin lids on the streets of West Belfast until their wee innocent man was released back into the fold.

Yellowblackbird

Mary Lou is so poor. I take it the lad from Donegal will be the next leader. Do they have anyone else?

NipNip

LordSutch wrote: »

The one thing that sticks in my mind from the whole affair is the rather sinister way the Sinn Fein cabal "tribe" reacted to the questioning of Gerry Adams.

Looking at Martin McGuinness and Gerry Kelly's almost shrill demonisation of the police & the holding of 'their man' made me feel a little uneasy, and certainly backed up my perception of who & what they really are! The Gerry Kelly speech outside the police staton in particular with the mohicin henchmen hovering around him looked menacing if nothing else, and then there was the Saintly Mural that went up nearly before Adams went into the plice station.

Oh Yes, and dont forget the image of Adams shaking the hand of Mandela, please give me a break :cool:

I can only guess that the next SF move would have been a mass hunger strike followed by the banging of bin lids on the streets of West Belfast until their wee bearded innocent man was released back into the fold.

They supported their leader. They are convinced the timing was politically motivated. As am I. Imagery of bin-lid rattling hoodlums while amusing, is a little bit eh........... how you say it?................ idiotic....

Then of course you have Shatter and Inda and months and months and months of PROVEN scandal after scandal and heads buried in the sand hoping the wind changes direction........... Say nothin' till ya 'hare' mo-ar.......... Sick of it! I'm sick of it Jim!!!

LordSutch

Yellowblackbird wrote: »

Mary Lou is so poor. I take it the lad from Donegal will be the next leader. Do they have anyone else?

Agreed, and whatever about Adams and his murky past, Mary Lou is just loud and brash, and in yer face.
Yes she's woeful, but at least she's not tainted with the hand of terrorism.

Yellowblackbird

LordSutch wrote: »

Agreed, and whatever about Adams and his murky past, Mary Lou is just loud, brash in yer face. Yes she's awful, but at least she's not tainted with the hand of terrorism.

The statement Adams made when he was released was in striking contrast to his minions whining over the previous week. Authorative, Statesmanlike and dignified. Mary Lou embodied the stereotypical shinnerhead, barstool dolemonkey railing against the 'brits' and conspiracies. I had thought she had improved over the years from very light weight beginnings...but she's been found wanting. She has a good heart and is loyal to her mentor but she is definitely not material to lead that party when Adams steps aside.

Nodin

LordSutch wrote: »

The one (.........)the fold.

You're pissed off he got out and probably won't be charged then. Don't let it get to ye - enjoy the summer, relax.

humanji

Let's just call it a day.