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breaking: Gerry Adams Arrested in connection to McConville - MOD WARNING First Post

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    #212
    Fratton Fred
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    Tramps Like Us wrote: »
    Why don't you elaborate...

    Its true that the media never mention that at least one of her kids was in the IRA (and jailed when his mother was killed). The story for years, which was obviously a lie, was that she was killed for comforting a dying British soldier. Or its also said she was killed for being a protestant (she married a catholic, was burned out of her home in a unionist area and moved to Divis and converted to catholicism). This is the type of myth building I'm on about -its not justified, what we should deal with is fact.

    Her son was in the OIRA, not the PIRA, she was also married to an ex British soldier who died earlier the same year. The family lived in temporary accommodation and only moved in to the Divis flats a few days before her murder.

    The review by the ombudsmen found no evidence she was passing information on to the British army.

    Those are the facts.


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    #213
    .jacksparrow.
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Her son was in the OIRA, not the PIRA, she was also married to an ex British soldier who died earlier the same year. The family lived in temporary accommodation and only moved in to the Divis flats a few days before her murder.

    The review by the ombudsmen found no evidence she was passing information on to the British army.

    Those are the facts.

    The ombudsmen?

    Please.


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    #214
    Little CuChulainn
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    .jacksparrow. wrote: »
    The ombudsmen?

    Please.

    Who needs an Ombudsman when you've got a grapevine.


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    #215
    dj jarvis
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    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Who needs an Ombudsman when you've got a grapevine.

    a grapevine that is bugged , apparently


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    #216
    .jacksparrow.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Who needs an Ombudsman when you've got a grapevine.

    I suppose the track record for the truth been told in the wars through the years is unblemished alright.

    Birmingham, Guildford, who needs an ombudsman when you've got Grapevine is true.


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    #217
    hatrickpatrick
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    dj jarvis wrote: »
    a grapevine that is bugged , apparently

    :D


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    #218
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    About time they picked him up.

    Dodgy as a three bob note but people forgot because him and the rest of his ex-terrorist buddies got all riled up about austerity or something.


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    #219
    P_1
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    Is that kosher legally with the PSNI arresting a TD?


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    #220
    Jake Rugby Walrus666
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    The ombudsman also found that 'Jean' is a stupid name.


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    #221
    Son Of A Vidic
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    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    Dear medics of AH, is their any known cure for the overdose of whataboutery I've endured reading this thread?

    I'm afraid not, I'm also afraid to say there's no cure either for hypocrisy. Finger pointing is a fools game, especially when those doing the finger pointing can conveniently overlook state murder, collusion, violence and brutality.


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    #222
    The Aussie
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    tomwaterford wrote: »
    well if you play like that the british haven't a great record when it comes to courts....

    Neither do the Adams's, I wonder if this one can flee south...


    Just saying like.


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    #223
    Karl Stein
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    MadsL wrote: »
    Justifying it then. "Collaborators will be shot" being your line. Really?

    Ethel Rosenberg.

    The US government executed a Ethel Rosenberg for collaborating with the Soviets leaving two children without a Mother and when they executed Julius Rosenberg they orphaned them.


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    #224
    dj jarvis
    Registered Users Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    Ethel Rosenberg.

    The US government executed a Ethel Rosenberg for collaborating with the Soviets leaving two children without a Mother and when they executed Julius Rosenberg they orphaned them.

    and that makes it ok how?


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    #225
    donfers
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    hmmm.....this could backfire, the electorate are not morons (well, a lot of them aren't anyway). This could actually raise Sinn Fein's vote - I'd like to think so anyway, people don't like being railroaded by the establishment at election time into voting this way or that (and the police aren't exactly flavour of the month, in terms of trust and integrity in the Republic anyway and I'm sure the PSNI will be viewed similarily)


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    #226
    The Aussie
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    Karl Stein wrote: »
    Ethel Rosenberg.

    The US government executed a Ethel Rosenberg for collaborating with the Soviets leaving two children without a Mother and when they executed Julius Rosenberg they orphaned them.

    So your wrong (your stated execution story) plus the IRA'a wrong still don't add up to any of it being Right, come back to us when you actually have a point. Thanks.


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    #227
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    donfers wrote: »
    hmmm.....this could backfire, the electorate are not morons (well, a lot of them aren't anyway). This could actually raise Sinn Fein's vote - I'd like to think so anyway, people don't like being railroaded by the establishment at election time into voting this way or that (and the police aren't exactly flavour of the month, in terms of trust and integrity in the Republic anyway and I'm sure the PSNI will be viewed similarily)

    But the murdering terrorists won't be viewed similarly?


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    #228
    tomwaterford
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    The Aussie wrote: »
    Neither do the Adams's, I wonder if this one can flee south...


    Just saying like.
    did he not turn up to police ststion make himself available for questioning??


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    #229
    Stheno
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    P_1 wrote: »
    Is that kosher legally with the PSNI arresting a TD?

    Yes
    The Aussie wrote: »
    Neither do the Adams's, I wonder if this one can flee south...


    Just saying like.

    Nope extradition far too well established between us and the North, I lived in Portlaoise near the prison during the 1980s extradition protests, they still went ahead with the extraditions


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    #230
    Richard
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    P_1 wrote: »
    Is that kosher legally with the PSNI arresting a TD?

    Obviously yes!. TDs don't have immunity from arrest in the (Republic of) Ireland, let alone anywhere else.


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    #231
    seamus
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    P_1 wrote: »
    Is that kosher legally with the PSNI arresting a TD?
    Yes, TDs don't automatically have diplomatic immunity. It's "complicated" but that's about it. I also understand that Gerry is a citizen of the UK so that makes it much less complicated.

    If Gerry had been in the Republic, he could have claimed he was on his way to Leinster House and he'd be free from arrest, but the North is a different country so he can be arrested as required.


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    Fred Swanson
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    #233
    Troy Lumberjack
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    The Aussie wrote: »
    So your wrong (your stated execution story) plus the IRA'a wrong still don't add up to any of it being Right, come back to us when you actually have a point. Thanks.

    Since when is having a valid point compulsory?


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    #234
    donfers
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    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    But the murdering terrorists won't be viewed similarly?

    People like you who describe them in those terms were never likely to vote for them anyway, Sinn Fein are targeting a younger more liberal and progressive-minded electorate, they're just going to grow and grow - that's the reality, some people like living in the past and are consumed by their own bitterness (and that's understandable) but others are trying to find a way forward - this will not hurt Sinn Fein, those who hate them will always hate them but because of the state of the other parties in Ireland and the lack of viable alternatives to establishment politics, Sinn Fein is going to reap the rewards of this disillusion unless a new party comes along pronto


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    #235
    The Diabolical Monocle
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    Well they have to pin it on someone.

    or try to.

    Shame they've FA reliable evidence.


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    #236
    Tramps Like Us
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    seamus wrote: »
    Yes, TDs don't automatically have diplomatic immunity. It's "complicated" but that's about it. I also understand that Gerry is a citizen of the UK so that makes it much less complicated.

    If Gerry had been in the Republic, he could have claimed he was on his way to Leinster House and he'd be free from arrest, but the North is a different country so he can be arrested as required.
    You do know that he got his lawyer to talk to them ages ago to see if they wanted to talk to him and that Adams willingly went to the PSNI station this evening?


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    #237
    Stheno
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    donfers wrote: »
    People like you who describe them in those terms were never likely to vote for them anyway, Sinn Fein are targeting a younger more liberal and progressive-minded electorate, they're just going to grow and grow - that's the reality, some people like living in the past and are consumed by their own bitterness (and that's understandable) but others are trying to find a way forward - this will not hurt Sinn Fein, those who hate them will always hate them but because of the state of the other parties in Ireland and the lack of viable alternatives to establishment politics, Sinn Fein is going to reap the rewards of this disillusion unless a new party comes along pronto

    Have you ever looked at voting by demographic?

    The young vote are least likely to actually vote.

    It will be at least twenty years before SF become challengers here imo


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    #238
    The Aussie
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    Stheno wrote: »

    Nope extradition far too well established between us and the North, I lived in Portlaoise near the prison during the 1980s extradition protests, they still went ahead with the extraditions

    My remark about Gerry Adams fleeing South was in reference about his convicted kiddy fiddling brother hiding in the South trying to avoid justice.


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    #239
    Karl Stein
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    dj jarvis wrote: »
    and that makes it ok how?

    Did I say it was okay?
    The Aussie wrote: »
    So your wrong (your stated execution story)

    What? Try to make sense.
    plus the IRA'a wrong still don't add up to any of it being Right,

    Did I say it was okay?
    come back to us when you actually have a point.

    That post was mean't for neither of you. Are you guys Madsl's little helpers or something?


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    #240
    ThisRegard
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    donfers wrote: »
    hmmm.....this could backfire, the electorate are not morons (well, a lot of them aren't anyway). This could actually raise Sinn Fein's vote - I'd like to think so anyway, people don't like being railroaded by the establishment at election time into voting this way or that (and the police aren't exactly flavour of the month, in terms of trust and integrity in the Republic anyway and I'm sure the PSNI will be viewed similarily)

    Is it just me that sees the irony in this?


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    #241
    mickydoomsux
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    donfers wrote: »
    People like you who describe them in those terms were never likely to vote for them anyway, Sinn Fein are targeting a younger more liberal and progressive-minded electorate, they're just going to grow and grow - that's the reality, some people like living in the past and are consumed by their own bitterness (and that's understandable) but others are trying to find a way forward - this will not hurt Sinn Fein, those who hate them will always hate them but because of the state of the other parties in Ireland and the lack of viable alternatives to establishment politics, Sinn Fein is going to reap the rewards of this disillusion unless a new party comes along pronto

    "Everyone else is a bit crap, let's vote for literal murderers :pac:"

    I'm plenty liberal but i'm not voting for economically illiterate terrorists just to make some sort of idiotic protest.


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