Have you ever had a panic attack?

Call Me Jimmy

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Aphex

KingOfFairview wrote: »

Magine having one while you were bangin a mot



Be bad out

A panic attack is a build up of adrenaline that has no where to go. I'd imagine having sex would be a means of ridding the adrenaline. It never happened to me during sex, but I have heard stories of it happening.

petes

Karsini wrote: »

Yes, have had them occasionally over the years but had them especially bad on three occasions late last year. Back on 19th September I had one and ended up in A&E because I genuinely thought it was my heart.

Same thing. Didn't know what was going on. Heart was going mental and of course the more I thought about what was going on the worse it got.

Ended up in A & E and spent a night or two in hospital. Wasn't fun

Haven't had one in a long time though, thankfully only two or three ever.

Would not wish them on anyone!

Chattastrophe!

I'd never had anxiety/panic issues before in my life. I have a four-month-old baby now, and for the first three months of his life, I had constant anxiety and regular massive panic attacks.

If I'd heard of anyone having "panic attacks" before all of this, I'd never really have understood it. My thoughts would basically have been, well why don't you just chill out, and y'know, stop panicking?!

But it's f*cking crazy. I'd be standing in the shower, and my whole world and all of everything would fall in on top of me and shatter as it all hit me. It's like entering another dimension, another reality, and it's impossible to explain. And in that moment you're sure you're dying, because in that moment you're already gone. You're removed from the world that you knew. It's terrifying.

And never mind the massive panic attacks, the underlying anxiety was overwhelming. Constantly shaking and sweating and unable to hold a conversation. Crying, almost always. I didn't know who I was anymore, or how to communicate in a normal way like a normal person.

I wouldn't say I'm fully out of the woods now, but thanks to a great mental health consultant in Holles St, I'm a hell of a lot better than I was, and improving all the time. I definitely had to seek out the help, it wasn't readily available, which is disappointing really. So many women suffer this way after childbirth, sure your hormones are all over the place! Thankfully I wasn't so far gone that I was unable to recognise the problem and ask for the help that I needed.

holystungun9

I have to be so grateful for my life so far. There are many things I have no grasp off at all. Reading about these panic attacks has opened my eyes. It must be hell.
For example, I understand to some degree what a migraine is but have no experience and tbh the last time I had even a slight headache must have been when I was a kid if even then.
When I see ads for tablets for something for like Heartburn and indigestion I really don't have any experience. I can guess from the name what heartburn must feel like and indigestion must be non digested food cause pains in your stomach or something but I don't think I've ever had either.
Apart from a random 24 hour bug once every two years or so which might be some vomiting or running to the toilet, I seem to have gotten away with lots of bad stuff. I know I must be due a heart attack while being savaged by wild dogs while being hit by a bus in the near future as payback.

johnnyvegas22

i get them when i'm out in public, i always think people are looking at me. its terrible i cant approach women because i start having one, has anyone been cured?

mikom

KingOfFairview wrote: »

Magine having one while you were bangin a mot
Be bad out

I think my missus had one in bed last night.

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

During a severe panic attack do the limbs spasm and curl up? I had something like that one time, felt like i was about to burst.

Yeah..... she definitely did have one.

Legs.Eleven

I really hope things improve for all you regular sufferers of them. I can't imagine.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

johnnyvegas22 wrote: »

i get them when i'm out in public, i always think people are looking at me. its terrible i cant approach women because i start having one, has anyone been cured?

that's not a panic attack. a panic attack is when you really think you're dying.

johnnyvegas22

georgiecasey wrote: »

that's not a panic attack. a panic attack is when you really think you're dying.

whoops sorry, i thought that was a panic attack, so what is it called when you start hyperventilating, go red and get really awkward

hairyprincess

johnnyvegas22 wrote: »

whoops sorry, i thought that was a panic attack, so what is it called when you start hyperventilating, go red and get really awkward

Sounds to me like social anxiety disorder. You would want to see your GP so they could refer you for cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT).

johnnyvegas22

hairyprincess wrote: »

Sounds to me like social anxiety disorder. You would want to see your GP so they could refer you for cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT).

thanks i will look into it, but my gp is useless any other outlets?

hairyprincess

johnnyvegas22 wrote: »

thanks i will look into it, but my gp is useless any other outlets?

Try another GP? I'm not being smart but you're not tied to the one GP, unless you have a medical card. Unfortunately some GP's aren't overly understanding of mental health issues.
Other than that you could try reading up about CBT on the net and get yourself some self help books.

beks101

Never experienced them until about two months ago, when I had one out of the blue while having breakfast with a friend after an overnight shift.

I had another one last weekend when I was back home in Galway, sat there convinced I was about to die as my poor father watched me, telling me I'm "only a young woman sure! You've years ahead of you yet" :pac:

Both of these followed an excessive intake of caffeine on both days and generally followed an extended period of stress having recently relocated to London and all the general noise that came with that. New and massively stressful job, nightmare house hunt, crap lifestyle yada yada.

Both events were characterized by a perceived inability to breathe, hyperventilating like a maniac, an overwhelmingly surreal feeling that I was about to die - almost hallucinogenic like I'd just injected a dose of Class As, complete dizziness and an inability to focus.

I think the first time it happened, having no experience of them, it was probably the scariest moment of my life. I was convinced it was the end for me.

Genuinely don't know HOW all of you people on this thread who experience them daily, sometimes multiple times, are still alive :eek: I can absolutely think of nothing worse.

orangesoda

In presentations in the past, I no longer do presentations, I would take a sword to the chest before I would do one. My life is one long small panic attack in general.

anto3473

johnnyvegas22 wrote: »

thanks i will look into it, but my gp is useless any other outlets?

Another GP.

I went to 3 different doctors before I found one that was able to help me.

Panic attacks cost me my job, a relationship, I fell out with family, had almost nightly nightmares... it really was costing me my sanity.

Tried CBT twice never found it helpful (apart for the breathing exercises, there is defiantly something to that) but most people get some benefit out of it. I probably had anxiety issues all my life but something happened a few years back that drove me around the bend.

The new GP gave me some pills and they completely changed my life around, I still very rarely feel anxious (gradually tapering off the meds now) but haven't had a proper dose of absolute terror in ages if it ever does come back I at least know what pills work for me. Overall i feel better than i ever rembember, my only regret is I didn't get it seen to by a doctor years before I did. If someone has a broken foot or a disease in their liver they go get it treated, the brain is no different its just another organ that can get problems, which are fixable the vast majority of the time.

Exercise is also really important, studies have shown that 30 mins physical activity can be as effective as antidepressants.

Bongalongherb

I'm amazed of the amount of people that have these. Yes, I got a bad one a few years ago when I was parked in the parking lot just before I had to start work at 1:00 am sunday morning, and had a long shift ready for me. I was sitting there in the parked car and felt dizzy, then my breating went low and then vertigo, and I thought I was going to die right there.

A friend of mine got this before and told me what he did when it happened so I breathed in through the nose slowly (deep breaths) and let it out through the mouth. After about 5 minutes of this I came back to normal. It is for sure a frightening feeling, you think the body is shutting down. I never got it again after that.

The main thing to do when you get one is never panic, just breath as said above and it will go away.

orangesoda

mine don't sound the same as others, my heart beats insanely fast and i twitch a bit and run out of breath and sweat, like you've just finished sprinting. mine are brought on by actual situations i fear, not just like out of nowhere, the mind is a blur as well during it.

Mark Tapley

O.A.P wrote: »

Good thread OP,
Yeah I get them too and have done for about 15 years or more. I never told anyone about them, including misses OAP.
I got one in the docs waiting room two months ago while waiting for a medical exam and decided to tell him about it when he asked me a few questions.
He has put me on Seroxat, Zimovane (sleeping pills) and an appointment with a shrink .
I don't know if this is better or not, these drugs have changed me I think but I have not had an attack since ?

I don't want to be alarmist but I am surprised you have been proscribed Seroxat. There has been quite a bit of controversy surrounding this drug. I had some very nasty side effects when I was proscribed it about ten years ago.
I don't know if you are an OAP but if you are the NHS site specifically says you should not be given Seroxat http://www.nhs.uk/medicine-guides/pages/MedicineOverview.aspx?condition=Anxiety&medicine=seroxat

Merkin

Mark Tapley wrote: »

I don't want to be alarmist but I am surprised you have been proscribed Seroxat. There has been quite a bit of controversy surrounding this drug. I had some very nasty side effects when I was proscribed it about ten years ago.
I don't know if you are an OAP but if you are the NHS site specifically says you should not be given Seroxat http://www.nhs.uk/medicine-guides/pages/MedicineOverview.aspx?condition=Anxiety&medicine=seroxat

What is equally as dangerous is coming off a drug like Seroxat suddenly so if the poster you refer to is concerned about ill effects they should only ever come off a drug like that under medical supervision....

lukesmom

Mark Tapley wrote: »

I don't want to be alarmist but I am surprised you have been proscribed Seroxat. There has been quite a bit of controversy surrounding this drug. I had some very nasty side effects when I was proscribed it about ten years ago.
I don't know if you are an OAP but if you are the NHS site specifically says you should not be given Seroxat http://www.nhs.uk/medicine-guides/pages/MedicineOverview.aspx?condition=Anxiety&medicine=seroxat

A bit of research shows he is 45 so not near OAP territory yet Nearly every antidepressant has controversial stories about them out there. Seroxat (paroxotine) is highly effective for anxiety and depression for thousands of people all over the world.

starlight baby

I don't know whether I feel better or worse seeing the amount of people that suffer from this. I have had them for years, to the point of agoraphobia sometimes. Even when I'm 'ok' there are still many places and situations I cannot go to and that list gets added to any time I feel dodgy somewhere. Examples are underground car parks, the dart, top floors, anywhere I can't get out of quickly. If I have to go anywhere new I need to research in advance. It's really limiting.

One book that really helped is Self Help for your Nerves by Claire Weekes. She's dead now and was old when she wrote it but don't be out off by the fact that it was written so long ago. I have read dozens of books and this one is the best. I urge anyone suffering from these to pick it up.

The key is not to fight them and to breathe and let it happen to you. This is the most difficult thing of all, the thought of giving in to it. But as we fight, our breathing shortens and the mind gets overloaded and that can lead to blacking out. When we feel a twinge or a jolt of panic we get terrified of it and that fear causes the panic attack. If we can feel that twinge and reassure ourselves it's nothing to be scared of, it's JUST A FEELING YOU DON'T LIKE, do some belly breathing, it will pass. You cannot run from it, the key is to walk through it. Many of these feelings are memories of previous attacks. Claire Weekes says something like you shouldn't be thinking oh no what if it happens now, because you live in fear that way, you should be able to think so what if it happens now, it will pass, I will be ok.

I'm still learning, and I have chosen to do it without medication. For those who are passing through a phase of acute anxiety, I really feel for you. But it will pass. It is impossible to stay like that forever. I am coming out of that now, it lasted for a month and I thought it would never end, but it does, it will become more manageable, and then you can start working on coping tactics.

Don't give up, and ask for help if you need it. And if you don't get it, ask someone else.

Mark Tapley

Merkin wrote: »

What is equally as dangerous is coming off a drug like Seroxat suddenly so if the poster you refer to is concerned about ill effects they should only ever come off a drug like that under medical supervision....

Where did I say that OAP should stop taking his medication?
Perhaps I should have said that he should not. You are right of course he should consult his Doctor. I just think there are better drugs than Seroxat.

I Heart Internet

Once, during the night (while awake obviously) during a period of great anxiety in my life. I thought I was gravely ill and should cancel a trip I had for the next day and go to the doctor instead.

Thankfully, I got up and had breakfast. Seemed to pass.

Sorted the anxiety thing in due course.

Flying form now!

bodice ripper

hundreds of them.

I feel better now, I honestly believe they built up into their own exposure treatment.

Merkin

Mark Tapley wrote: »

Where did I say that OAP should stop taking his medication?
Perhaps I should have said that he should not. You are right of course he should consult his Doctor. I just think there are better drugs than Seroxat.

I didn't say that you did. The article in question does however paint a less than favourable picture of the drug and it has been proven that Seroxat, more than a lot of its other sister drugs, can precipitate really negative effects if stopped suddenly. If people were not informed they could be quite easily scared by such a worrying article and decide to come off it of their own volition and do untold harm. Merely reiterating that it's not safe to do so....

Mark Tapley

lukesmom wrote: »

A bit of research shows he is 45 so not near OAP territory yet Nearly every antidepressant has controversial stories about them out there. Seroxat (paroxotine) is highly effective for anxiety and depression for thousands of people all over the world.

Do you have personal experience of this drug ? I do. The side effects of this include self harm and suicide .There is also a risk of addiction. Don't let this stop you posting how great it is .It might help many people but in my view the risks are too high.
By a bit of research do you mean you trawled OAPs posts?
You went out of your way to dispute my post, why is that?
I posted because I had a negative experience with Seroxat and wouldn't want anyone to go through the same thing.

howamidifferent

I've been cursed to suffer from them for over 25 years since my early twenties.
Severely restricts my lifestyle and has cost me two marriages due to the fact I cant be spontaneous and need to plan for any trips anywhere. If something is sprung on me that I wasnt expecting or planning for then it results in a panic attack. I have been on many meds over the years but have found that 20 to 40 mg of seroxat daily for the past 5 years have changed my life for the better.
I can now function "almost" normally and when I do feel an attack coming on I take a benzodiazapine which thankfully is only once every few days. This has allowed me to stay in my job when otherwise I would have gone mad many years ago. Like others, it took a while to find a GP who understood and I came across a few who told me to cop myself on etc. In that time I've tried CBT, counselling, hypnotherapy and all sorts of quackery. Nothing worked until the meds.

I dont think I'd be alive today if I didnt have the doctor I have now.
They are worse than any physical disability as when you dont have your sanity, you dont have anything.

anto3473

lukesmom wrote: »

A bit of research shows he is 45 so not near OAP territory yet Nearly every antidepressant has controversial stories about them out there. Seroxat (paroxotine) is highly effective for anxiety and depression for thousands of people all over the world.

Second this, I was quite worried about going on it after the some of the horror stories I read online. Yes it can have side effects and I did experience some not too pleasant ones however it really did work for me.

It is an effective drug for most that take it, doctors know the benefits and risks before prescribing it and sometimes it is necessary to put up with some minor side effects which are usually only temporary (for a few weeks when tapering up or down dosages or changing from one medication to another)

Also bear in mind that people are more inclined to report negative effects of meds on online forums, the people the drug has benefited (majority) just tend to get on with things and have no interesting stories to post online about. Reminds me of a customer service thing I was told about in a previous job, If someone recieves good customer service somewhere they will tell on average 3 people, if they are strongly dissatisfied with something they will tell on average of 15 people

Mark Tapley

anto3473 wrote: »

Second this, I was quite worried about going on it after the some of the horror stories I read online. Yes it can have side effects and I did experience some not too pleasant ones however it really did work for me.

It is an effective drug for most that take it, doctors know the benefits and risks before prescribing it and sometimes it is necessary to put up with some minor side effects which are usually only temporary (for a few weeks when tapering up or down dosages or changing from one medication to another)

I wouldn't have posted concerns about this drug if I had minor side effects that quickly passed.

Mark Tapley

Merkin wrote: »

I didn't say that you did. The article in question does however paint a less than favourable picture of the drug and it has been proven that Seroxat, more than a lot of its other sister drugs, can precipitate really negative effects if stopped suddenly. If people were not informed they could be quite easily scared by such a worrying article and decide to come off it of their own volition and do untold harm. Merely reiterating that it's not safe to do so....

Sorry I was defensive . You are right I should have stressed that it is dangerous to just stop taking your medication.

Boom_Bap

Throughout my teenage years and early twenties when I started going out to pubs, nightclubs and gigs is when I started to get strange feelings, particularly in crowded areas. I never really analysed what they were.
To cope, and to be honest, without thinking much about it, I would just move to a space where I felt comfortable where ever I was.
There was even one point in college where I would refuse to go to a particular popular club because there was nowhere in it where I could find space.

There was even one instance where the group I was with for my birthday were trying to get me into the place and I refused. Started a big argument in the middle of the street because I just couldn't handle the place, but didn't know how to express that to the friends I was with, and they were very persistant that I should go in. I ended up storming off. Little did I know that there was a surprise party waiting inside for me which is why my friends were pushing me to go in. Ooopps.

Since I've had kids, I've become extremely on edge in crowded places when I am with the kids. I'm still trying to confront that, and now it's getting easier for me.

But, the one major attack that I have had was when I started to do BJJ training. I started partly to confront my anxienty of being in close proximity of people, it doesnt get closer than in BJJ as you would have someone lying ontop of you trying to choke you!
In my third training session, the gym was particularly warm, there was alot of bodies on the mats and we were practising a new submission choke. We were alternating between different partners at a quick pace and using alot of energy. At one point, I couldnt breathe properly, assumed it was from the excercise, and resumed the drill.
A couple of minutes later, I was lying with someone on top of me, I could no longer try to defend or breathe and had to run out of the place. Into the locker room splashing water over me trying to catch a breath and sweating like a lunatic. I just couldn't get my breathing back to normal for a few minutes....which felt like an eternity.
I ended up going back into the training session about 15 minutes later and slowly got back into it. I think that was the best thing I have done in confronting this, by not letting it hold me back.
Since then things have been alot easier for me.

anto3473

Mark Tapley wrote: »

Do you have personal experience of this drug ? I do. The side effects of this include self harm and suicide .There is also a risk of addiction. Don't let this stop you posting how great it is .It might help many people but in my view the risks are too high.
By a bit of research do you mean you trawled OAPs posts?
You went out of your way to dispute my post, why is that?
I posted because I had a negative experience with Seroxat and wouldn't want anyone to go through the same thing.

I have personal experience of seroxat, I doubt I would be alive today without it. I had the side effects loss of sex drive and the feeling of electric shocks and screwed up sleep patterns, compared to the anxiety i suffered from this was a walk in the park. The side effects lasted around 3 weeks and subsided, the suicidal ideation i had been dealing with then left.

Its all about risk/benifit and im alive and not miserable, im on it around 2 years on half the dose I started with, overall it was a success for me.

Im not denying your experience, there is no denying that for some people it just doesn't work or may even make things worse but odds are it usually works.

I just hope people won't be scared away from something they may actually need or get benefit from. The drug has a lot of bad press and you rarely see success stories because when it works you never hear anything

Grayson

johnnyvegas22 wrote: »

whoops sorry, i thought that was a panic attack, so what is it called when you start hyperventilating, go red and get really awkward

Panic attacks can range in scope and intensity. A better description is an anxiety attack.

I used to get them. What i felt when it happened could vary. I got the whole "I'm dying" thing. That was compounded by the fact that I'd just gotten a hiatus hernia. So when i got a panic attack I'd have all the imagined pain but I'd also get some very real pain from my stomach.

I'd get weird ones in lectures where I'd feel like I was about to scream. I know it sounds different,the the feeling was nearly exactly the same. a crushing amount of pressure.

And on of the worst things about panic attacks. Thinking about one can give you one. Actually, i think the worst thing about them is the fear that you'll have one. If someone is talking about them, or if they're just stuck in your head, you get weird periods that can last minutes to hours when you are constantly on edge thinking you're going to have one.

It's been over 10 years since I had one at this stage. I managed to understand what caused the, both the physical and psychological triggers. I've learned how to deal with stress and not let it build up.

I think the best thing that happened to me when i had them wasn't any of the treatments or psychologists etc... It was perfectly normal people who told me that they had them at some point or another. You feel like a freak when you have them, it's so reassuring to know that there are loads of people that are perfectly normal who have had them. What's happening is about as abnormal as getting a flu.

Also William T Sherman, one of the Union commanders in the US civil war got panic attacks. But for him the trigger was when he worked in real estate. He left the real estate business because of the stress and joined the army where he commanded 100,000 men in battle. He said "I can handle a hundred thousand men in battle, and take the City of the Sun, but am afraid to manage a lot in the swamp of San Francisco."

Grayson

Mark Tapley wrote: »

Do you have personal experience of this drug ? I do. The side effects of this include self harm and suicide .There is also a risk of addiction. Don't let this stop you posting how great it is .It might help many people but in my view the risks are too high.
By a bit of research do you mean you trawled OAPs posts?
You went out of your way to dispute my post, why is that?
I posted because I had a negative experience with Seroxat and wouldn't want anyone to go through the same thing.

Bollox. I'm not a fan of seroxat but the suicide stuff has been largely debunked. the drug was given to people who were extremely depressed or had schizophrenia and a couple of them committed suicide. people who are experiencing them tend to anyway.
Tests show a very slight increase in "feelings of suicidality" in teenagers. There's no direct comparison in the actual figures.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paroxetine#Suicide

I was placed on it and didn't like it. i didn't think it did anything for me at all really but I'm not about to follow conspiracy theories either.

Mark Tapley

anto3473 wrote: »

I have personal experience of seroxat, I doubt I would be alive today without it. I had the side effects loss of sex drive and the feeling of electric shocks and screwed up sleep patterns, compared to the anxiety i suffered from this was a walk in the park. The side effects lasted around 3 weeks and subsided, the suicidal ideation i had been dealing with then left.

Its all about risk/benifit and im alive and not miserable, im on it around 2 years on half the dose I started with, overall it was a success for me.

I'm glad it worked for you . I wouldn't dispute that Seroxat works for many people. For some people it does not work and is dangerous. When there are alternatives available I would not take the risk.

bradlente

beks101 wrote: »

Both of these followed an excessive intake of caffeine on both days and generally followed an extended period of stress having recently relocated to London and all the general noise that came with that. New and massively stressful job, nightmare house hunt, crap lifestyle yada yada.

The only time I've ever had one was when I took caffeine as a supplement,barely had any and it was very effective.Definitely increases the risk of getting them imo.If like me you're the sort of person that doesn't deal with uppers very well caffeine and the like is probably best avoided.Never touched it again as it seemed fúcking lethal.

bodice ripper

Mark Tapley wrote: »

I'm glad it worked for you . I wouldn't dispute that Seroxat works for many people. For some people it does not work and is dangerous. When there are alternatives available I would not take the risk.

aren't the side effects (self harm and suicidal ideation) largely in connection with adolescents?

TeddyTedson

I had one really really bad one. I was away on holidays and had been drinking quite a bit over the course of the holiday. Anyway I stayed up pretty late to catch the flight in the middle of the night and had a few drinks with friends.
By the time I was boarding the flight all the alcohol effects had worn off me and I was tired and cold and beginning to panic. I'm not a good flyer any more but the thunderstorms that were happening at the time didn't help the matter.
Even once I was on the plane I was shivering and started to get a panic attack while they were giving the safety instructions. I just had a sudden feeling of dread that the plane was definitely going to crash. I turned to my friend who was at the other side of the aisle and said in front of other people I didn't know that I needed to get off the plane.
I was a little reassured and didn't move, began to zone into my breathing to keep relaxed as best I could and then we began to take off.
As Soon as the plane left the ground it was shaking left to right. I was terrified. I knew this was the end.

Obviously it wasn't but the plane journey was personal hell for me, my heart was racing the entire flight which had turbulence for most of the journey.
What I personally learned though was that it was the withdrawal from alcohol which left me in such an exposed state of mind.
I'll never fly tired and hungover again.

Mark Tapley

Grayson wrote: »

Bollox. I'm not a fan of seroxat but the suicide stuff has been largely debunked. the drug was given to people who were extremely depressed or had schizophrenia and a couple of them committed suicide. people who are experiencing them tend to anyway.
Tests show a very slight increase in "feelings of suicidality" in teenagers. There's no direct comparison in the actual figures.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paroxetine#Suicide

I was placed on it and didn't like it. i didn't think it did anything for me at all really but I'm not about to follow conspiracy theories either.

My feelings about Seroxat are based on personal experience not conspiracy theories.
I don't know why I am responding as your posting style would lead me to believe you are a cúnt.

Mark Tapley

anto3473 wrote: »

I have personal experience of seroxat, I doubt I would be alive today without it. I had the side effects loss of sex drive and the feeling of electric shocks and screwed up sleep patterns, compared to the anxiety i suffered from this was a walk in the park. The side effects lasted around 3 weeks and subsided, the suicidal ideation i had been dealing with then left.

Its all about risk/benifit and im alive and not miserable, im on it around 2 years on half the dose I started with, overall it was a success for me.

I'm glad it worked for you . I wouldn't dispute that Seroxat works for many people. For some people it does not work and is dangerous. When there are alternatives available I would not take the risk.

Mark Tapley

bodice ripper wrote: »

aren't the side effects (self harm and suicidal ideation) largely in connection with adolescents?

That seems to be the case from what I have read . I was in my thirties when proscribed the drug.

anto3473

Mark Tapley wrote: »

I'm glad it worked for you . I wouldn't dispute that Seroxat works for many people. For some people it does not work and is dangerous. When there are alternatives available I would not take the risk.

All drugs have side effects and risks. Especially antidepressants, seroxat is no different. When a patients doctor believes it is the best medication for a particular patient it's worth a try. Doctors know what good and bad this medication can do and weigh up the pros and cons and decide what to prescribe based on evidence based clinical research.

An interesting side note, the psychiatrist I saw said if I had relatives with similar problems the drug that helped me could help them, it is thought there is some genetic reason behind why different SSRIs work differently in different people. The converse could quite possibly be true, relatives of patients that react badly to one drug may also react badly.

Mark Tapley

anto3473 wrote: »

All drugs have side effects and risks. Especially antidepressants, seroxat is no different. When a patients doctor believes it is the best medication for a particular patient it's worth a try. Doctors know what good and bad this medication can do and weigh up the pros and cons and decide what to prescribe based on evidence based clinical research.

An interesting side note, the psychiatrist I saw said if I had relatives with similar problems the drug that helped me could help them, it is thought there is some genetic reason behind why different SSRIs work differently in different people. The converse could quite possibly be true, relatives of patients that react badly to one drug may also react badly.

I seem unable to discuss Seroxat calmly as it is an emotive issue for me . I am getting into trouble and think I should bow out. Apologies for disrupting the thread and I wish everyone well.

anto3473

In fairness you were personally attacked first, i have no problem with anyone's opinion i was just pointing out people can be swayed by what they read on these kinds of forums.

I myself had huge reservations about the drug but from my own experience but I'm glad that i took the step and made the decision to take it. I absolutly do not doubt what you say about your own experience but the literature at the moment supports it as safe and effective, for most people - by no means everyone.

I'm a medical scientist and I know how to read scientific literature, some of the information people say about the drug online is simply untrue but that's not to say all adverse reactions are "conspiracy theorys". Ive gone through some of the side effects and they do indeed suck, but I wouldnt go so far as to say it shouldnt be prescribed because for most the drug does indeed work

Best of luck Mark, I hope things work well out for you.

Also speaking of side effects... funny video..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlmEc8rd_Nw&feature=kp

lukesmom

Mark Tapley wrote: »

Do you have personal experience of this drug ? I do. The side effects of this include self harm and suicide .There is also a risk of addiction. Don't let this stop you posting how great it is .It might help many people but in my view the risks are too high.
By a bit of research do you mean you trawled OAPs posts?
You went out of your way to dispute my post, why is that?
I posted because I had a negative experience with Seroxat and wouldn't want anyone to go through the same thing.

Calm down there I'm simply saying it works for many people. You went out of your way to share a negative article based on your bias due to your bad experience with seroxat. Drugs effect people in different ways, what works for me might not suit you etc. no need to be so angry I wasn't trying to contradict you, just point out that it helps many others. No I've never been on it.

King George VI

I had a panic attack last night and it was horrible. I could feel it coming on when I was lying in bed and there was nothing I could do about it, I just had to ride it out. I've gotten a few before and they weren't as bad as last night.

I've had struggles with depression and anxiety for a few years now but fortunately I don't think I've ever had a proper panic attack. I've had moments where my mind races and I become.....not myself, for want of a better word, and have experienced moments where my entire body freezes and I feel an icy current running through me. But I've never really experienced the shortness of breath, sharp pain or faintness that seems to come with a panic attack. At least I don't think I have anyway. So I guess I'm lucky in that regard.

Pretty Polly

I've always been an anxious person and I get panicky easily, even if I'm just waiting in a queue in the bank. Over the past 3 weeks I've been having regular panic attacks and I've been off work for the past few days.
I'm making an appointment to see someone who specialises in CBT this week.

Does anyone have any tips or pointers of things that help them when they feel a panic attack coming on. The thing I hate the most is when my legs start feeling numb and weak. I've been practising a breathing technique that I found online and I intend to beat this.:)

beano345

One of the worst ones I got was after a heavy night drinking(Always got them bad after the booze) and whatever else I was dabbling in,I took the dog for a walk on the beach,I remember walking for ages and turning back and there wasn't a sinner for miles when it hit me like a freight train I remember thinking to myself what if I dropped dead now no one would see me,I had no phone,I was in a cold sweat and reality became hypersensitive if that makes any sense,just this overwhelming sense of impending doom, all I had was a jack Russell looking up at me as if to say "are you going to walk here or what?". Long walk home being a jittery mess never forget it