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Moving out - on the dole

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  • 02-05-2014 6:17pm
    #1
    maca123
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭


    I lost my job last year and won an unfair dismissal case. I don't have a reference. I have been on illness benefit since. I moved back into my parents house but i need to leave them be.

    I imagine landlords want working tenants so I'm not sure what to say to them.
    I can either tell the truth, or say I am working.


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    qwertyabcd
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    that depends on the area, we rent out a house in the town we live in and our current tenant is a single mum who is a stay at home mum, she is one of the best tenants we have had since the house was bought in 2001, be honest and I hope you find something


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    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    How are you going to pay the rent?


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    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Tax payer money will pay the rent I would guess.

    Rent allowance.

    Also op if you say your working which you aren't as you have said the LL will have to be asked to fill in forms for you to recieve rent allowance.


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    r0qi4162fux9kg
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Tax payer money will pay the rent I would guess.

    Rent allowance.

    Which the gentleman above would have contributed to whilst working.


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    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Kaiya Quiet Tongue-lashing wrote: »
    Which the gentleman above would have contributed to whilst working.


    Thinking like this is a huge burden on this small island.

    I pay my tax and work but get no help with my rent and can honestly say with all the tax hikes, levies, new taxes and all the other cuts I and others have taken I think times have to change but thats my opinion and I fully understand people lose their jobs and run into tuff times but the op has said they have a roof over their head but want to get out but are not working so the money for rent would be a problem.


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    athtrasna
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Tax payer money will pay the rent I would guess.

    Rent allowance.

    Also op if you say your working which you aren't as you have said the LL will have to be asked to fill in forms for you to recieve rent allowance.

    You need to be renting privately for six months to get rent allowance though?


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    Gatling
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    athtrasna wrote: »
    You need to be renting privately for six months to get rent allowance though?

    That's correct and consider the serious lack of properties available that landlords will accept RA,particularly one beds its a tricky time to move out on the dole
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    Snake
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Thinking like this is a huge burden on this small island.

    I pay my tax and work but get no help with my rent and can honestly say with all the tax hikes, levies, new taxes and all the other cuts I and others have taken I think times have to change but thats my opinion and I fully understand people lose their jobs and run into tuff times but the op has said they have a roof over their head but want to get out but are not working so the money for rent would be a problem.

    He's on the dole while he looks for a job, so what if he gets rent allowance. Better than the lazy bastards who refuse to even look


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    Snake
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    athtrasna wrote: »
    You need to be renting privately for six months to get rent allowance though?

    I'd imagine if he had to move back with his parents he was renting beforehand


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    Snake
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Snake


    To answer some of your questions:

    If you say you're working, they'll make you prove it.

    Get your parents to do you a reference, worked for me first time I rented

    I know you want out of your parents house, but you'd be better waiting till you had a job you'd get a much better house, how will you pay the deposit and things?


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    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 68,890 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    retrogamefan wrote: »
    I'd imagine if he had to move back with his parents he was renting beforehand

    Doesn't count for RA applications as far as I know - if you're not currently renting (and not on the housing list either) you can't apply.


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    murphaph
    Registered Users Posts: 19,022 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    When did the state replace families?


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    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    murphaph wrote: »
    When did the state replace families?
    When people started considering their independence more and how they were going to fund it less.


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    ted1
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    retrogamefan wrote: »
    He's on the dole while he looks for a job, so what if he gets rent allowance. Better than the lazy bastards who refuse to even look

    No he is on illness benefit and hence unable to work


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    maca123
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭maca123


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Thinking like this is a huge burden on this small island.

    I pay my tax and work but get no help with my rent and can honestly say with all the tax hikes, levies, new taxes and all the other cuts I and others have taken I think times have to change but thats my opinion and I fully understand people lose their jobs and run into tuff times but the op has said they have a roof over their head but want to get out but are not working so the money for rent would be a problem.

    The money I received from the unfair dismissal case is going to pay the rent. I would still be paying taxes had i not being forced out of my job too.
    I'm on illness benefit, not disability allowance so it's not permanent. I'm looking to get better after what I've being though, going to college for years, getting a degree to get a job i was wrongly forced out without a reference after years of hard work. If I was entitled to rent allowance i would gladly accept it by the way just like i was happy to pay tax and help others like me now.

    Thanks, though. Yeah i shouldn't lie about still being working.


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    Maphisto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Maphisto


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Thinking like this is a huge burden on this small island.

    I pay my tax and work but get no help with my rent and can honestly say with all the tax hikes, levies, new taxes and all the other cuts I and others have taken I think times have to change but thats my opinion and I fully understand people lose their jobs and run into tuff times but the op has said they have a roof over their head but want to get out but are not working so the money for rent would be a problem.

    You're right. I want my taxes going on government helicopters and new government departments - I don't want it wasted on anyone that needs a leg up.


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    quadrifoglio verde
    Registered Users Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭quadrifoglio verde


    Maphisto wrote: »
    You're right. I want my taxes going on government helicopters and new government departments - I don't want it wasted on anyone that needs a leg up.

    Id much rather they didn't spend it on either and cut my tax rate instead:mad:


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    Maphisto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Maphisto


    quadrifoglio verde wrote: »
    Id much rather they didn't spend it on either and cut my tax rate instead:mad:

    Yeah that'll happen - just watch the budget.


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    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    maca123 wrote: »
    The money I received from the unfair dismissal case is going to pay the rent. I would still be paying taxes had i not being forced out of my job too.
    I'm on illness benefit, not disability allowance so it's not permanent. I'm looking to get better after what I've being though, going to college for years, getting a degree to get a job i was wrongly forced out without a reference after years of hard work. If I was entitled to rent allowance i would gladly accept it by the way just like i was happy to pay tax and help others like me now.

    Thanks, though. Yeah i shouldn't lie about still being working.
    Since you're currently on illness benefit and moving aside from the money aspect for just a moment, are there any supports that will no longer be in place if you move out on your own?


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    Snake
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    MYOB wrote: »
    Doesn't count for RA applications as far as I know - if you're not currently renting (and not on the housing list either) you can't apply.

    You can use previous tenancies to make up for the 6 months, yeah you do need to be on the housing list regardless.


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    Grab All Association
    Registered Users Posts: 3,920 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    murphaph wrote: »
    When did the state replace families?

    Until you come back and pay taxes like me in this country you have no right to an opinion on the OP circumstances.


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    #23
    quadrifoglio verde
    Registered Users Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭quadrifoglio verde


    Chris___ wrote: »
    Until you come back and pay taxes like me in this country you have no right to an opinion on the OP circumstances.

    you'd find that as a landlord he still is paying tax...


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    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Chris___ wrote: »
    Until you come back and pay taxes like me in this country you have no right to an opinion on the OP circumstances.
    Maybe you should let Boards.ie know about your new policy for their discussion forum.


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    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Chris___ wrote: »
    Until you come back and pay taxes like me in this country you have no right to an opinion on the OP circumstances.

    I'm sure there are plenty of people on this forum- paying a lot less tax in Ireland than Philip is. Your statement is horse manure of the highest order.


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    murphaph
    Registered Users Posts: 19,022 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    Chris___ wrote: »
    Until you come back and pay taxes like me in this country you have no right to an opinion on the OP circumstances.
    Ignorance is bliss as they say.


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    Graces7
    Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    retrogamefan wrote: »
    You can use previous tenancies to make up for the 6 months, yeah you do need to be on the housing list regardless.

    no it is either or...unless you live in eg cork where the cwos try to change the rules. check with citizens info site


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    olliesgirl55
    Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭olliesgirl55


    athtrasna wrote: »
    You need to be renting privately for six months to get rent allowance though?

    Not completely correct. If you get deemed in need of social housing by your local housing authority (on housing list) you will get RA.

    Op there are quite a few Landlords who are nice and understanding and don't care about your situation as long as you pay the rent and are a good tenant. Just be upfront and honest. Hope your luck turns around soon:)


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    Snake
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Snake


    Graces7 wrote: »
    no it is either or...unless you live in eg cork where the cwos try to change the rules. check with citizens info site

    It's not, I have looked it up. "You must be renting for 6 months out of 12 you can use previous time as a tenant to make up the 6 months
    OR
    be assessed as in need of social housing by your local authority"


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