Bloodborne (From Software / Sony)

Apollinaris

I got this game in a bundle when I bought my PS. Never got into it, might give it another try.

nix

eyeball kid wrote: »

I think I'm at a similar area to you Penn, have beaten the Blood starved beast, the Hemlick witch one and think the only thing I can do now is Vicar Amelia. Haven't been to the prison yet. Is that somewhere I should have been by now?

To trigger getting locked up in the cell,

i think after you kill Blood starved beast, a big tall lad in a hood with a bag on his back spawns just outside the NPC ward hub, fight him and die and you will be transported to the cell, when you awake, be careful not to die until you activate the lantern up the stairs from the cell or you wont be able to get back until later in the game.

Penn

Apollinaris wrote: »

I got this game in a bundle when I bought my PS. Never got into it, might give it another try.

I'm far from a Soulsborne guy. Never played any of the Souls games, and I'm experiencing the games backwards having started with Sekiro and now Bloodborne.

Sekiro and Bloodborne, they're great games. A lot of frustrating elements in both and still don't think the 'Soulsborne' formula or Bloodborne are the greatest things ever (I'd be surprised if Bloodborne did anything in the rest of the game to make it suddenly become one of the best games ever), but once you persevere through some of the early frustrations and get used to the combat and game mechanics, they're incredibly satisfying games to play (bar the aforementioned frustrations which pop up throughout). Very easy games to sink a few hours into and both feel like you've made a lot of progress, and actually have made very little at the same time, such is the depth and complexity of the game and maps.

If you have Bloodborne already, it's worth giving it a lash. I bought and played it to a point maybe about two years ago before giving up. Started afresh this time and pushed through, now will definitely finish it at the very least.

gimli2112

Another Hunter converted.
Strange noises are heard in the distance and somewhere a baby is crying.

eyeball kid

nix wrote: »

To trigger getting locked up in the cell..

Thanks, I killed one of them already, wasn't sure what he was. Do I need to go there at this stage or it it worth avoiding?

gimli2112

they only reason you'd want to go there early is to get the Tonitrus, as someone mentioned earlier, that and if you like dying over and over again

nix

eyeball kid wrote: »

Thanks, I killed one of them already, wasn't sure what he was. Do I need to go there at this stage or it it worth avoiding?

Its a great place for getting the next tier blood stone upgrades for your weapon and farming souls, killing the two giant pigs. Just take your time exploring it and its nothing to fear, its not that big of an area, opens up more later but it also changes a good bit mob wise.

Penn

Jebus the 2nd part of the Forbidden Woods is pure nightmare fuel.

Is there a summons before every boss? Took Henryk in to fight the Shadows and beat them first time. Kinda makes some fights trivial. At the same time though, if the option is there, I'm taking it, especially since on this occasion I was carrying about 80k echoes and didn't want to have to go back to Hunter's Dream to bank them and then try run through that area again.

nix

Penn wrote: »

Jebus the 2nd part of the Forbidden Woods is pure nightmare fuel.

Is there a summons before every boss? Took Henryk in to fight the Shadows and beat them first time. Kinda makes some fights trivial. At the same time though, if the option is there, I'm taking it, especially since on this occasion I was carrying about 80k echoes and didn't want to have to go back to Hunter's Dream to bank them and then try run through that area again.

Yeah its a confusing area, takes multiple times of exploring to get it down and even then you can still get lost at times. And yeah, summoning can break most fights, you will come across the odd boss though where the summoned will get wreaked in no time and make the fight harder as the boss gets more hp.

brady12

Any advice for anyone starting this for the first time 😅

Penn

brady12 wrote: »

Any advice for anyone starting this for the first time 😅

You'll die a lot in the first proper section, and it'll be frustrating as hell. However, it's the game training you how/when to attack, baiting/splitting up enemies etc. After a bit, you'll start dying far less.

Also, don't bother levelling up Arcane or Bloodtinge (or picking a class which boosts those stats when creating your character). From what I've read they're more suited to second playthroughs when you're more experienced with the game.

And don't panic about which weapons you should start off with, you can easily buy the others afterwards anyway to try them out.

brady12

Any advice for anyone starting this for the first time 😅

Penn

Didn't get a lot of time with it last night, just did Bryegnworth (or however it's spelled) and Rom. Rom wasn't too bad, although I did waste an insight point bringing Henryk into the fight and I guess he decided not to take the leap of faith. Got Rom on third try, big ol' Hunter Axe swings when I realised you have to hit his body rather than head helped with the mobs too.

Retr0gamer

Penn wrote: »

Didn't get a lot of time with it last night, just did Bryegnworth (or however it's spelled) and Rom. Rom wasn't too bad, although I did waste an insight point bringing Henryk into the fight and I guess he decided not to take the leap of faith. Got Rom on third try, big ol' Hunter Axe swings when I realised you have to hit his body rather than head helped with the mobs too.

That's pretty good going on Rom. He usually frustrates the **** out of everyone!

Penn

Retr0gamer wrote: »

That's pretty good going on Rom. He usually frustrates the **** out of everyone!

It took almost all my blood vials trying to beat him second time as I was trying to deal with the mobs and kept getting smashed with those blue crystals he throws out. Third time I just tried to focus on him and roll in and out for heals.

Pretty much depleted my stash of heals though between the three attempts, so might do a bit of blood vial farming before tackling the next bit.

gimli2112

My battles with Rom usually entail careful planning, keep rotating and taking out the mobs, strike Rom at the opportune time rinse and repeat.
When this leads to multiple failures it usually ends up with my rushing at her whailing with my weapon crying please die please please please die.

Penn

gimli2112 wrote: »

When this leads to multiple failures it usually ends up with my rushing at her whailing with my weapon crying please die please please please die.

I thought that was my own psyche talking to me but maybe I was channelling you

Penn

Did a bit of the new part of Unseen Village (Y'arghul?) last night. Now that's f*cking brutal, and not in a "this will be challenging but fun" way. The area with the savage nuns especially and the thing that shoots lasers, and there's no real chance of finding the bell woman to stop the nuns respawning. In the end I just had to leg it. Then made it back to the church, and the two hunters and Wolverine smashed me a few times too.

After that I just took down Darkbeast Paarl and did another Chalice Dungeon. The dungeons are cool, but very repetitive, and some awful enemy placement in them. Got particularly destroyed by two firebreathing/throwing shamans right at the top of a ladder where you barely get a chance to get a hit in before you die, and there's barely any room to roll past them. Might do a few more dungeons and level up another bit before proceeding with the main areas.

Question, when a gem has something like extra bolt or fire damage, is that applied to the weapon regardless, or does it just increase bolt/fire damage when you've used bolt/fire paper? I've mostly just been going with gems that boost physical damage, but if it applied fire damage without using paper it might be something I look at.

gimli2112

I can't remember specifics around the gems but I researched it extensively at the time and farmed for the highest damage ones

nix

I didnt bother with those gems, i just went for highest physical gems and then used the papers if a boss was weak to a particular element.

TitianGerm

Penn wrote: »

Didn't get a lot of time with it last night, just did Bryegnworth (or however it's spelled) and Rom. Rom wasn't too bad, although I did waste an insight point bringing Henryk into the fight and I guess he decided not to take the leap of faith. Got Rom on third try, big ol' Hunter Axe swings when I realised you have to hit his body rather than head helped with the mobs too.

I used an little electric mace on him. I had read he is weak to electricity so I swung like a mad man :pac:

J. Marston

Cool fan project...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUwuYOhCAGc

Penn

Didn't get playing much over the weekend (bar being killed about 10 times by the Crow of Cainhurst guy in the Cathedral) but cracked into it again properly tonight. Took down the crow guy with ease (switching to extended axe helped a lot rather than trying to fight fair with the saw cleaver). Also took down the Nightmare guy which was a pain in the hole.

nix

Crow of cainhurst is a pain in the arse, hes harder than most bosses.

What nightmare guy?

Penn

nix wrote: »

Crow of cainhurst is a pain in the arse, hes harder than most bosses.

What nightmare guy?

The guy in the nightmare of mensis with the cage on his head. Have to chase him through a maze. Forgot to check his name but just googled; Micolash, Host of the Nightmare.

gimli2112

The Crow is a tough fight. Micolash is easy enough but then sometimes he's an absolute mare.

Penn

gimli2112 wrote: »

The Crow is a tough fight. Micolash is easy enough but then sometimes he's an absolute mare.

Yeah I fell into a dangerous loop in the second phase of surviving his long range hit with just a sliver of health and barely popping two vials before being hit with it again. Managed to dodge enough to only need one heal and get close enough to attack again.

Though the most frustrating part of the fight was trying to find him in the maze, trying to pick up an item but not being able to until I skipped through all his dialogue.

skerry

Penn wrote: »

Yeah I fell into a dangerous loop in the second phase of surviving his long range hit with just a sliver of health and barely popping two vials before being hit with it again. Managed to dodge enough to only need one heal and get close enough to attack again.

Though the most frustrating part of the fight was trying to find him in the maze, trying to pick up an item but not being able to until I skipped through all his dialogue.

I found Micolash to be a pain in the hole too. Everyone said he was easy but it took me a good few tries to get the better of him. More annoying than anything else but has a few attacks that will wreck you. Crow got the better of me and I gave up eventually on that one.

Penn

skerry wrote: »

I found Micolash to be a pain in the hole too. Everyone said he was easy but it took me a good few tries to get the better of him. More annoying than anything else but has a few attacks that will wreck you. Crow got the better of me and I gave up eventually on that one.

Yeah the Crow was absolutely wrecking me, but googled some tips because he was annoying me. Once you lure him over to the stairs and fight him there he rarely uses his pistol and occasionally starts to walk slowly in retreat back up the stairs. With the extended axe you can get a lot of decent hits in and knock him down.

I generally dislike cheesing enemies, but some enemies just f*cking deserve it.

gimli2112

the problem with the Crow is you can be fighting away thinking, things are going really well this time and then you're looking at the You Died screen wondering what the hell just happened