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Latest Premier League Financials - How Does Your Team Stack Up?

  • 02-05-2014 9:49pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭


    I appreciate a lot of people couldn't care less, but for those that do, David Conn yesterday published an excellent article on the Guardian detailing the finances of all Premier League clubs for 2012-2013.

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/01/premier-league-accounts-club-by-club-david-conn

    A very handy PDF too:

    http://static.guim.co.uk/ni/1399038430809/Premier-League-finances.pdf

    Some of the figures:

    Wages (as a % of turnover):

    QPR (128%)
    Fulham (92%)
    Stoke (90%)
    Man City (86%)
    Aston Villa (85.7%)

    Profit and Loss:

    Swansea (+21m)
    Newcastle (+10m)
    Arsenal (+7m)
    West Brom (+6m)
    West Ham/Spurs (+4m)

    QPR (-65m)
    Chelsea (-56m)
    Villa/Manchester City (-52m)
    Liverpool (-50m)
    Stoke (-31m)

    My own team, Sunderland, are pretty much middle of the road. This time last year things were a bit more worrying on the financial side of things, but it has improved, however still a lot of work to be done especially on the P+L side of things with a loss of £13m. Obviously our wage as a % of turnover is far too high (though it has dropped by £6m), and teams like Newcastle and Southampton are setting the bar at around 65% for our kind of teams and that's the range we need to get to. Relegation would blow it all apart and we'll be back to square one, but luckily we do have an automatic 40% reduction in players wages if we do go down drawn into their contracts and a lot of our current squad are out of contract at the end of the season anyway which should see the % drop again next year.

    Fulham could be in a lot of trouble if they go down spending anything like 92% of their turnover on wages, while Stoke and Villa will surely be worried with their wage bills and losses from that period also.

    Arsenal the most impressive of the big teams by far, posting a £7m profit and "only" spending 54% of their turnover on wages, yet reaching the Champions League.

    Anything surprises or stuff that jumps out at you from Conn's findings in relation to any of the clubs?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,603 ✭✭✭lassykk


    Very interesting reading.

    Cheers for posting the links


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,538 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Qpr's wage bill is higher than atletico madrid's.

    Loltastic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    retalivity wrote: »
    Qpr's wage bill is higher than atletico madrid's.

    Loltastic

    That was as of the end of last season. Since then the big earners such as Remy, Taraabt, Cesear are no longer on the payroll. Still a ridiculous stat though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,293 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    That is impressive from Swansea considering they were in the championship 3 years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,975 ✭✭✭iMuse


    Fulham in major trouble if they go down with the wages they pay. Squad will be unrecognisable next year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    iMuse wrote: »
    Fulham in major trouble if they go down with the wages they pay. Squad will be unrecognisable next year.

    Normally the high earners say GTF to any wage decrease and stay with the club as noone else will offer them the same.

    Seems only promoted clubs have the relegation wage decrease clause. Fulham up a while so may not have it anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,538 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    dreamers75 wrote: »
    Normally the high earners say GTF to any wage decrease and stay with the club as noone else will offer them the same.

    Seems only promoted clubs have the relegation wage decrease clause. Fulham up a while so may not have it anymore.

    Should never have taken down the mj statue, could have charged ppl to see it next yr to compensate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭upstairs for coffee


    Most of Fulham's players will be sold quite easily I would imagine. Stekelenberg, Mitroglou and Ruiz will get takers. Bent, Holtby, Kvist, Diarra, Bent, Heitinga, Riise, Sidwell, Duff and Hughes are all out of contract or loans expire.

    That leaves Hangeland, Rodallega and Parker as their main high earners. If Fulham get lucky, someone might take a chance on Parker. Rodallega will always have takers but I can't see anyone signing Hangeland. He has been in awful form. I used to think he would be good back up at Arsenal or Liverpool but not any more.

    They also have a sugar daddy and a strong youth academy so will be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Also quite interesting and goes well with the discussion on teams that will be in trouble if they go down is something compiled by Sporting Intelligence.

    If you get relegated from the Premier League there's - a £20m loss of income, over 4,000 people less through the gates, a 50% chance of not getting promoted and a whopping 30% chance of going down to League One and an average time of 4 years to regain your Premier League status.

    Frightening.

    BmFkDspCcAA2NC3.jpg:large


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