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Floyd 'Money' Mayweather vs. Marcos 'Chino' Maidana: MGM Grand Arena May 3rd

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭megadodge


    117-111 is ridiculous.

    Only three rounds for Maidana??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭amkin25


    darced wrote: »
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    only 4 rounds to maidana? pretty harsh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Wtf is Bieber doing there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls


    Brace yourselves guys, the fan boys and their hashtags will be awake soon...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭John Cherry


    Someone please punch Justin Bieber.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 iatethepies


    Anyone know the story with the cookie?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Maidana is a hero, what a man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭amkin25


    this feels like a scam coz floyd wanted to get some "wars" or rematches or trilogys like all the greats have.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭amkin25


    why so quick to have a rematch it seems strange


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls


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    Edit, this in reply to cookie question...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭stiffler123


    Great fight. Mayweather showed his class in the later rounds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭amkin25


    Still to me it doesnt warrant a rematch,i wouldn't be that interested in seeing a rematch unless the gloves are such an issue or maybe that's gonna be part of the story to set up the rematch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    darced wrote: »
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    Harsh. I thought the judge who scored it a draw was the closest of any of the judges. Mayweather won by one for me, two at a push. Just my opinion though.

    A rematch would be good. Any other opponent wouldn't be as good of a fight for us spectators. You'd expect Mayweather would be well able to adjust for him by the next fight though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,756 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Close fight in no way a clear win for Mayweather i personally had it a draw! Anyone who calls Mayweather TBE can fcuk right off Duran would have destroyed him, tonight showed exactly why Floyd has never wanted any part of Pacquiao


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Suppose it was a decent enough fight by the compared to the usual floyd snorefests but in truth it wasn't great. So much holding and wild swinging misses from Maidana. good counterpunching by Floyd in the middle rounds but all in all I'd have no real desire to see the rematch. Would prefer to see how Khan would get on against him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭amkin25


    Close fight in no way a clear win for Mayweather i personally had it a draw! Anyone who calls Mayweather TBE can fcuk right off Duran would have destroyed him, tonight showed exactly why Floyd has never wanted any part of Pacquiao

    +1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,734 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    116-112 was about right.

    I agree that Weeks was stopping clinches very quickly, but Maidana was going in head first. If he'd not been so blatant about it, Weeks may have left it alone a bit longer.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34 Mayweather vs Maidana


    Close fight in no way a clear win for Mayweather i personally had it a draw! Anyone who calls Mayweather TBE can fcuk right off Duran would have destroyed him, tonight showed exactly why Floyd has never wanted any part of Pacquiao

    How would a 37 year old Duran fare agaibst Mayweather now?

    I've personally never seen a better 37 year old than Mayweather.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭amkin25


    darced wrote: »
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    Well i didnt think it was so clear but agree maidana started missing a lot as the fight wore on and agree floyd done enough,i wouldn't be interested in seeing it again with the amount of missed shots in general it seemed ok of a fight merely coz people were surprised by maidana but otherwise not really a great fight.
    One little cut from a headbutt on floyd and not a mark otherwise on either fighter tells the story of the fight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    Maidana was dealt a bad one by the judges... A lot of debatable rounds there, Floyd by two is the max he won it by. Great stuff from Chino, one of the most likeable guys in Boxing. Imagine if he had his own gloves? This proves that Mayweather is one good fighter away from complete meltdown, he looked tired and old tonight. It proves that Pac man would still beat him as well. Pac would have destroyed the Floyd we saw tonight.... Maidana did well though, showed us what Margarito could have done had Floyd not ducked. Respect to Floyd too for grinding that one out...for his age he's still very impressive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭amkin25


    Maidana was dealt a bad one by the judges... A lot of debatable rounds there, Floyd by two is the max he won it by. Great stuff from Chino, one of the most likeable guys in Boxing. Imagine if he had his own gloves? This proves that Mayweather is one good fighter away from complete meltdown, he looked tired and old tonight. It proves that Pac man would still beat him as well. Pac would have destroyed the Floyd we saw tonight.... Maidana did well though, showed us what Margarito could have done had Floyd not ducked. Respect to Floyd too for grinding that one out...for his age he's still very impressive.

    Not sure pac can destroy anyone anymore,and i'm a big fan of his but personally i think he's over the hill took too many punches.
    Floyd is the best at just being ring smart,i dont rate his boxing talent so much as his ring smarts he ties up and pushes head down etc. and obviously has a great defense,but he tends to just tie up and block for a few rounds constantly till they lose heart and tire then he start's to pick them apart.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    If you put pac man in there and told him to adopt Maidana's approach for even half the fight he'd win a clear UD against the Floyd who turned up tonight... Much faster, cleaner puncher and with that aggressiveness he'd thump Floyd. Chino caused him some serious problems. Personally didn't expect much from Maidana but he did get that great start which I thought he'd get. Where does Floyd go from here. A fight with Porter or Thurman is a lot more interesting now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭freevoice


    To beat Mayweather in Vegas you got to Ko him , judges will always side with the star . Fight was very close. Mayweather lost it on ring generalship, he was backing off all night, he did land the odd nice counters but that was about all, foot speed and blistering hand speed were missing tonight for Mayweather. Score by one of the judges 117- 111 mayweather was bizarre. Wasn't a great Boxing fight just a close fight , too much holding. There is no Golden boy fighter that can give Mayweather a decent match sadly, Bradley or Pac man can tho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭freevoice


    pac_man wrote: »
    This is a bit of a wishy washy term that's highly subjective and not clearly defined.

    It's one of the four main criterias when scoring a fight, effective aggression , defense, ring Generalship, clean punching. It can be subjective but in close fights you got to look at tempo and control, RG is as important as causing cuts or causing damage to an opponent scoring wise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭gilmour


    darced wrote: »
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    thanks for basically posting exactly what i was about to post. Pac has no reach, no jab. Maidana does and is very effective with it. He is a crude and very effective inside fighter, Manny isnt. Why the **** do people not understand this?

    Khan on the other hand is someone who i've said for about 5 years has the raw materials to beat Mayweather, the range, reach, handspeed and footspeed. What he lacks is the ring intelligence, but it would be one hell of a fight and personally thats his biggest test, not Manny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭jamescd


    freevoice wrote: »
    To beat Mayweather in Vegas you got to Ko him , judges will always side with the star . Fight was very close. Mayweather lost it on ring generalship, he was backing off all night, he did land the odd nice counters but that was about all, foot speed and blistering hand speed were missing tonight for Mayweather. Score by one of the judges 117- 111 mayweather was bizarre. Wasn't a great Boxing fight just a close fight , too much holding. There is no Golden boy fighter that can give Mayweather a decent match sadly, Bradley or Pac man can tho.

    Pretty much this.

    If I had to pick between the draw and 9 - 3 in favour of Mayweather, I would pick the draw all day long. No way Mayweather won it that comfortably.

    Mayweather won it 7 - 5 max.

    gilmour wrote: »
    thanks for basically posting exactly what i was about to post. Pac has no reach, no jab. Maidana does and is very effective with it. He is a crude and very effective inside fighter, Manny isnt. Why the **** do people not understand this?

    I still think prime Manny gives Mayweather a lot more trouble than any version of Khan.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭freevoice


    I don't get where the Khan hype comes from , I couldn't see him giving Mayweather any trouble, bar speed, Mayweathers power would have Khan second guessing all night and possibly on the canvas , Danny Garcia certainly had.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Lenmeister


    Probably 116 - 112. I don't really get a lot of the comments in here. There's a reason he's champ. Maidana came hard and fast early but in the later rounds Mayweather showed his true class. His speed is undeniable. He's still got serious skill and showed it. The only reason that fight was closer than it should have been was because Floyd let it become a bit of a brawl. Look what happened when he turned on the style. That typical ducking and milisecond dogding followed up with perfect accuracy counterpunching. 114 - 114 is a total joke imo. Mayweather always takes maybe 3 rounds to suss out opponents. I really like watching Maidana fight but he can't match Mayweather for speed, accuracy, or skill in general. Maidana threw a lot of punches but as usual Mayweather dodged.

    And I could have sworn I seen Maidana try to knee him lol..

    Oh and yes please ban Bieber from being near any decent fight. Surely it was past his bedtime?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭gilmour


    freevoice wrote: »
    I don't get where the Khan hype comes from , I couldn't see him giving Mayweather any trouble, bar speed, Mayweathers power would have Khan second guessing all night and possibly on the canvas , Danny Garcia certainly had.

    Khans chin would not be an issue against Floyd because Floyd isnt that type of puncher, his lack of ability to adjust and remain calm and composed to stick to a gameplan for 12 rounds would be his biggest issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭gilmour


    jamescd wrote: »
    Pretty much this.

    If I had to pick between the draw and 9 - 3 in favour of Mayweather, I would pick the draw all day long. No way Mayweather won it that comfortably.

    Mayweather won it 7 - 5 max.




    I still think prime Manny gives Mayweather a lot more trouble than any version of Khan.


    I really shouldnt open this can of worms but why exactly? How would a shorter man, with no jab, a serious reach disadvantage and a centre ring fighter cause Mayweather more problems? A master counterpuncher at that? I love Mannys style and always have done but the Mayweather match up is just all wrong for him and no version of Manny beats any version of Mayweather. Its not about that fanboy crap that plagues boxing forums online, its about style match ups and i've yet to be convinced in any way that Manny would beat Floyd.
    But i could see how Khan could beat him because his style is far better suited.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34 Mayweather vs Maidana


    Overall it was a close competitive fight, neither fighter was hurt badly. If you look at it round for round you could probably make a case for both fighters having won the bout, however if you look at the bout overall I think Floyd deserved the win. He hit Maidana with significantly more clean punches. I had Floyd up by 2 or 3 rounds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,455 ✭✭✭weemcd


    Maidana fought a great fight imo. Made it uncomfortable especially in those early rounds, good pressure and bodywork. He fought the kind of fight Ricky Hatton wanted to fight but Maidana did a much better job and went the distance. Really impressed.

    Equally impressed by Floyd's ability to adapt, improving considerably as the fight went on. I really want to watch it again already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 hynesenberg


    Anyone know where I can get highlights to the fight?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,319 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Anyone know where I can get highlights to the fight?

    Boxnation.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭dahayeser


    They have the full fight and the Khan fight on allthebestfights.com.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    The fight is all over youtube as well...seeing Maidana in the first few rounds got my adrenalin pumping crazy...great effort by him, I think a rematch would be similar to the Castillo rematch but they guy deserves it tbh...Floyd will give it too because he should be very scared of fighting anyone else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Im not his biggest fan but I could see Khan giving him major trouble, his speed and accuracy is amazing, I think if he was really disciplined he would be really close to a major upset.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭gene_tunney


    Mayweather has only a couple of fights left and people really want to see him fight Maidana again? Get him in there with Pacquiao, Khan, Lara, Bradley, Thurman, Martinez, Porter, any of those guys.

    A new styles match up is much more interesting than a repeat performance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭Johnnythefox4


    To sum up

    Broner - Absolutely crap. Again got hit far too much by a journeyman lightweight. No head movement and poor footwork. He must think the shoulder roll is some sort of invisibility cloak :pac:. If he gets put in with Matthyse he will be knocked out. His general conduct and post fight interview was a disgrace, how come he didn't try that sort of showmanship with Maidana? :rolleyes: .

    Khan - Very good performance. Boxed well and was disciplined. However Collazo gave a disappointing display. I think he underestimated Khan. He just thought he was going to plod forward, land a big haymaker, and that would be that. The thing is Khan is now going to be stepped up, and I don't think he will be able for it. Guys like Mayweather, Porter, Thurman, Maidana etc aint gonna walk forward with their hands down by their sides. I can't see him beating Mayweather, as I can't see anyone outboxing Floyd. Khan isnt going to walk through punches like Maidana, and I think that is the only way to beat him

    Mayweather - Had some tough moments, but he is so hard to catch clean. I've always thought that to beat him you would have to have the style of someone like Maidana but while the first half was close, it was easy for Floyd in the end


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    Yeah but a fight with Pac, Bradley, Lara, Martinez and even Thurman/Porter is very very unlikely due to a duck or the ongoing TR/GBP feud...rematch with Chino, Khan, rematch with Cotto if he beats Martinez and a Canelo rematch are the only fights I see that Floyd might take after last nights showing...you could even see he was surprised he won.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34 Mayweather vs Maidana


    Never seen Mayweather deploy the ol' left hook so often before.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭gene_tunney


    Yeah but a fight with Pac, Bradley, Lara, Martinez and even Thurman/Porter is very very unlikely due to a duck or the ongoing TR/GBP feud...rematch with Chino, Khan, rematch with Cotto if he beats Martinez and a Canelo rematch are the only fights I see that Floyd might take after last nights showing...you could even see he was surprised he won.

    Mayweather won clearly, but not comfortably. I didn't see signs of ageing, rather it was Maidana's style the caused him trouble. He actually looked very light on his feet to me. Not as light as 10 years ago, but as light as 3 years ago.
    Never seen Mayweather deploy the ol' left hook so often before.

    He used it well. It used to be his primary weapon but then the lead leaping right took over. If you watch his earlier fights from around 2006 and before he used it a lot, it was particularly effective against Corrales.

    Mayweather's counter right uppercut from the ropes was beautiful last night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 845 ✭✭✭skydish79


    Thought the referee jumped in a lot and protected may weather


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    Very surprised at how well Chino did. He had no respect for Floyd's power at all and he just walked through his shots for most of the fight. No one's ever done that against Mayweather before. Just a pity Maidana still doesn't have good stamina. As usual he was gassing in the second half of the fight. Stylistically though, he did a number on Floyd. And but for shameless antics with the gloves he might have messed him up even more.

    Also, 117-111 was disgraceful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,756 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Floyd seems to be slipping, he will avoid Thurman, Pacquiao and maybe even Porter like the plague, Maidana rematch is convinent for him he likely wins and then Khan meaning 1 more fight left for him to loose that 0, Fact is if he fought Pacquiao, Thurman, Lara as a last 3 he will probably loose at least once. His last 3 will probably be Maidana, Khan, Broner! seriously he isn't going to risk that 0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    Mayweather has only a couple of fights left and people really want to see him fight Maidana again? Get him in there with Pacquiao, Khan, Lara, Bradley, Thurman, Martinez, Porter, any of those guys.

    A new styles match up is much more interesting than a repeat performance.

    Only fights there that have a realistic chance of happening are Khan, Thurman, and Porter. And on the evidence of last night he won't want Porter either. Lara will need to beat Canelo 10-2 to have any chance of getting a decision, and as much as I'd like to see that fight I think Floyd would just avoid him anyway.

    Pacquiao, Martinez, Bradley, those fights just aren't happening. Realistically you're left with Khan, maybe Thurman/Porter, or Cotto if he beats a crocked Martinez.

    Given how often Mayweather fights are complete non-events, I'd rather take my chances with a guy like Maidana who has proven that he can cause Mayweather problems. And I'd have him wear his own gloves this time.


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