Your driving pet hates

BarryD

Pet hate? Many people have either lost or never acquired the basic skill of reversing into a parking bay. They just drive forward into them and are then seen later reversing back out into the traffic flow, even though they can barely see what's coming. If they drive a jeep or estate type car, their arse is halfway across the traffic flow in many cases before they can see out. It's a modern scourge, even carparks and some onstreet parking have angled bays now, encouraging this habit. Compounded when the shoppers arrive back in their car on a wet day and all the windows steam up. Breaks a basic rule, that you don't reverse into a lane or road that is carrying more traffic than what you are on. You reverse into the lesser lane/ bay/ road and then pull forwards into the route carrying heavy traffic.

Sat in a car park recently watching people - I'd say about 30% reversed into their parking spaces. Behaviour sometimes affected by adjacent cars - i.e. if several cars parked facing out, arriving driver more likely to reverse in to match them. People are like sheep at end of day, I guess!! Rant over

tossy

Which leads me onto a pet hate of mine, you spot a space you indicate slow down - stop beside the space, inch forward, put it into reverse, look back and the clown behind you is 1 foot from your bumper!

Mousewar

Cars using the left lane to turn right off a roundabout. They do it just to skip the queue that has formed in the right lane. It's ubiquitous and very dangerous (plenty of the time there is someone in the right lane going straight and when the two meet - Bang!)

hoodie6029

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Some people do it on purpose, some because they don't know.

I think some nervous drivers do it to keep other drivers from getting too close. I remember on Japanese cars from the 80's and 90's the fog and window heater switches were beside each other. It was more common to be stuck behind someone who thought they were clearing their rear window back then!

xabi

blastman wrote: »

I didn't, plus the other driver looked at me and still came ahead.

But you said you indicated before the preceding exit, I wouldn't indicate until i was level with the preceding entrance to the roundabout.

ianobrien

eviltimeban wrote: »

.... The traffic is quite slow at that part of the road and you can generally get across. But some a-holes blatantly block you, even though they are crawling along.

But they are still moving, even slowly?

Once I am moving, you can bugger off I'm not stopping to let you out.

BarryD

tossy wrote: »

Which leads me onto a pet hate of mine, you spot a space you indicate slow down - stop beside the space, inch forward, put it into reverse, look back and the clown behind you is 1 foot from your bumper!

Been there, done that and bought the teeshirt. It's just a clash of culture or maybe a generation gap thing. The driver behind you looks blank - they just have no idea that what you might actually be thinking of doing is to reverse back into that space.

Worse still, they try and nip into the space behind you. Best approach I find is to stop dead at the parking space and force the person behind to stop. Then forward a little to get your angle right. There's still some who won't get it though.

I must admit failure sometimes and have just given up and driven forward into the space when I can see it happening.

dr.fuzzenstein

ianobrien wrote: »

But they are still moving, even slowly?

Once I am moving, you can bugger off I'm not stopping to let you out.

Don't worry, I'll let you out, even if Mr O'Brien is the type to pull in front of you, blocking you, so he can gain another 3 feet in traffic.
In the end it doesn't cost me anything.
Some of us are still nice.

dr.fuzzenstein

tossy wrote: »

Which leads me onto a pet hate of mine, you spot a space you indicate slow down - stop beside the space, inch forward, put it into reverse, look back and the clown behind you is 1 foot from your bumper!

Some guy did that to me years ago, but he wasn't fast enough and left me enough space (1 inch either side), so I managed to just about squeeze past him.
He actually started beeping me and waving his arms. I gave him a big grin and a friendly wave as he drove past.
At some time this was actually quite popular in Ennis, it happened so often and they where so deliberate about it, it had to be on purpose.

One guy would actually park in a space, put it in reverse and have the ignition on with his foot on the brake. So there was always traffic chaos as hopeful people would wait behind him for 5 minutes to pull out, till they realised he was reading the paper.
Hilarious!

twowheelsonly

Most of mine are well covered in this thread, indicators, fog lights, lane hoggers etc.

A major one that pisses me off is driving with parking lights on -why can't people just put on the dipped lights? It's only one extra flip of the switch and you're not going to get a bill for using them.. :mad:

The other one is dopes parked on 'my' side of the road, facing into oncoming traffic, lights on. Doesn't matter that they're dipped, lights are angled to the left so will blind oncoming drivers that are on that side of the road.

truedoom wrote: »

Just in regards to the fog lights, i've reason to keep them on at night.

Dipped lights are pretty rubbish. It's a legitimate fault with my car, so it's either fogs on, or have to do 20-30kph under the limit, because i can't see far enough ahead.

Sorry lads.

Get your lights adjusted or replaced/upgraded?

angwd wrote: »

Rubberneckers, grrr.

And the cheeky beggar at the petrol station the other day, stood between me and the cash desk trying to force me to go and pump his petrol because "he'd left his glasses at home".

I'd always have sympathy for someone like this unless they were a total ar**h*le. From my days in retail I learnt that "glasses at home" could often be a pseudonym for "can't read and write" - a more common problem than you'd think.

foxy farmer wrote: »

What about the muppet who almost drives their car through the filling station door because they couldn't be bothered walking 20-30 metres. Came out of a shop recently and the door hit an Audi parked outside. Nearly had to climb over the bonnet to get by. Waited to see who was the culprit. A healthy well dressed man in his 30s. Didn't seem to be in any hurry either. Why ffs?

Worst of these offenders is the woman in a tracksuit either going to or coming from a walk/gym or whatever yet is too lazy to walk across a forecourt! Drives me nuts!!

jameshayes wrote: »

A huge pet hate of mine is people that go on about indicators and others not using them.

1. an indicator should only be used when it will benefit other road users.. if you are the only user on / approaching a roundabout, don't worry about it

2. they are / should never be taken as a persons action, only their indication to action... it is a hint, a tip or a clue to what they are going to do, sometimes tips, clues and hints don't work out.

BS. ALWAYS use the indicator and then there can be no argument. What about blind spots? Pedestrians? Traffic at other points of the roundabout that you possibly can't see when you start your move?

Alias G

twowheelsonly wrote: »

BS. ALWAYS use the indicator and then there can be no argument. What about blind spots? Pedestrians? Traffic at other points of the roundabout that you possibly can't see when you start your move?

Exactly. Indicating should be almost a sub conscious decision. Not one you think when or if appropriate. People have already mentioned not indicating on roundabouts but the one I can't understand is indicating incorrectly on a roundabout. Eg indicating right as if taking the third exit followed by indicating left when past the first exit and taking the second exit.

antoobrien

BarryD wrote: »

Pet hate? Many people have either lost or never acquired the basic skill of reversing into a parking bay.

Did you ever hear of a car thief pushing a car backwards out of a spot?

Popoutman

antoobrien wrote: »

Did you ever hear of a car thief pushing a car backwards out of a spot?

Yep, happened my ex-girlfriend.

It's safer to reverse into parking spots - there are many building sites that I was on where the H&S rules stated that spaces must be reversed into. One specific example was the wind farm site at Rockchapel.

It makes sense when you realise that you can get visibility of traffic coming from the sides much sooner when you are facing into the road than when you are facing away from the road.

blastman

xabi wrote: »

But you said you indicated before the preceding exit, I wouldn't indicate until i was level with the preceding entrance to the roundabout.

I didn't say I indicated before the preceding exit, I just said that I indicated I was leaving at the next exit. As it happens, the lanes for exiting and entering the roundabout are separated by an island (for people crossing the road) so there's an extra gap between them. I had just passed the exit and was level with this pedestrian island when I indicated, but hadn't crossed the entry lane when the other eejit darted out in front of me.

ironclaw

Can we leave roundabouts out of this? Its been done to death and there is no official line or agreement. Indicate as you see fit. Leave it at that!

FunLover18

ironclaw wrote: »

Can we leave roundabouts out of this? Its been done to death and there is no official line or agreement. Indicate as you see fit. Leave it at that!

Yes there is!!!

jca

ironclaw wrote: »

Can we leave roundabouts out of this? Its been done to death and there is no official line or agreement. Indicate as you see fit. Leave it at that!

Indicate as you see fit!!! What a load of bollox.....

dr.fuzzenstein

ironclaw wrote: »

Can we leave roundabouts out of this? Its been done to death and there is no official line or agreement. Indicate as you see fit. Leave it at that!

You obviously wheren't paying attention then and we haven't done it enough in that case.

ironclaw

jca wrote: »

Indicate as you see fit!!! What a load of bollox.....

Indicate as you were taught to do so i.e. As you see fit to do so. Don't see how thats a load of bollix? Better than none at all, as is the case with the majority of people I face on roundabouts every single day.

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

You obviously wheren't paying attention then and we haven't done it enough in that case.

FunLover18 wrote: »

Yes there is!!!

Lads, where have you been? There's literally thousands of threads here regarding roundabouts. 'The clock-face theory' or 'count exits' etc, either of which could give you a different indicator scenario. The RSA document, whilst good, completely ignores the majority of roundabouts that aren't perfectly symetrical.

I always indicate, I wasn't suggesting any sort of 'half assing it' I was merely trying to save the thread exactly this, a nonsense debate on roundabout usage :rolleyes:

5uspect

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Let's see if I remember this correctly.
Car approaches roundabout in left lane, indicating left. Once entered roundabout, indicates right and changes from left lane to right lane. Approaches 12 O'Clock exit, indicates left and exits roundabout.
Basically all he was doing is go straight on.
WTF?
Next pet hate:
Myself approach roundabout in left lane to go straight. Car in right lane, obviously going right.
Halfway through the roundabout, he speeds up and is trying to cut me off for the exit. No dice. Make it through ahead of him.
That is bad enough. but he tries the same sh*t at the next roundabout?
Well, if he couldn't jump me when i wasn't expecting it, what makes him think he'll make it when I am fully prepared and ready to floor it?
:mad:

This ****, every ****ing day.

FunLover18

ironclaw wrote: »

Lads, where have you been? There's literally thousands of threads here regarding roundabouts. 'The clock-face theory' or 'count exits' etc, either of which could give you a different indicator scenario. The RSA document, whilst good, completely ignores the majority of roundabouts that aren't perfectly symetrical.

I always indicate, I wasn't suggesting any sort of 'half assing it' I was merely trying to save the thread exactly this, a nonsense debate on roundabout usage :rolleyes:

The RSA link, regardless of failing to reflect asymmetrical roundabouts, uses the clock face theory.

Shane Fitz

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

That with bells on!!!
As mentioned before, Parkway Roundabout in Limerick. :mad::mad::mad:
Or just roundabouts in Limerick in general.
Or just roundabouts altogether.
Long line of cars coming up to the roundabout?
No problem, I will simply indicate left, pass everyone out and when I'm at the top, I will "remember" I wanted to go straight after all!
What a genius idea! Surely no-one will mind if I do that!
Arseholes.
And, yes, the ones who do it and they do it because they feel more important than the rest of us, they usually get extremely pissy when challenged on it.
Many have raced me through roundabouts, not many had the nerve to see how far I'll take it (you don't want to know) and I had fists shaken at me, my pic taken with phone by driver and have been followed beeping and flashing.
Fcuk 'em.

As a regular M7 commuter, and inherent traffic jam risks attached, it fupping does my head in when having sat in traffic moving 3kms in 60 minutes I watch not 1, not 2 but close on 50 cars pass up the hard shoulder only to the try barge their way back into the driving lanes where the M7 & 9 meet.

OldMrBrennan83

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ShaunieVW

This crap, Plenty of room to park everywhere else. I squeezed through in my little A3 with a wing mirror folded in ( the gap actually looks wider in the pic) but the guy in the Range Rover down the road wouldn't stand a chance. The gas man in the van is the perpetrator here.



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lintdrummer

There are so many things about driving in this country that boil my piss. I love driving but it's become such a stressful experience with all the unbelievably bad driving I see on a daily basis.

People who overtake on the motorway at 1kph more than the person on the left. Lorries can't help it but your car isn't restricted!

On single lane national roads when traffic is heavy (eg. the N4 between Mullingar and Longford on a Friday evening) and thicks are overtaking recklessly one car at a time, pulling into that thing they're not familiar with called "braking distance", even though it's clear that as far as the eye can see there is traffic so you aren't achieving anything.

Joining a motorway at inappropriately slow speeds.

Tailgating. In any situation. But particularly when it's obvious that I am unable to do anything about the road situation in front of me, such as when joining a motorway and the vehicle ahead is travelling slowly.

When, after tailgating me all the way down the on ramp, a driver shoots out, often over the hatching, speeds up along side and then prevents my joining the motorway.

This is actually very therapeutic! Thanks OP, I'll be back when I think of more!

gammygils

When some clown shoots out in front of me from a side road and then crawls out the fukkin road

Jeeeesusss!

AlanMcC23

People (mainly old people in a micra or fiesta :P ) come to a complete stop on a roundabout to let other cars out has to be up there as the most annoying and dangerous things on the road seeing it more and more aswell

NipNip

Out of a matter of interest, are you allowed to break the speed limit while overtaking?

Say, you've someone in front of you doing 90kmph in a 100 zone. You've a clear road of 500m in front of you, in order to overtake. If you have a squad car behind you (this actually happened me once or twice), can you speed up to 110kmph while overtaking quickly, or should you technically sit behind yer man in front, as to overtake safely, you would break the speed limit?

I suspect this is the reason people in the overtaking lane creep alongside while overtaking. I've often seen it around the Spa Hotel on the N4, where the speed limit is really low for a few miles.

Other question is a roundabout one. There is a roundabout locally, where the first exit is straight on as the crow flies. That one is grand, left lane, indicating left. The second exit however is at approximately 2 o'clock (if you're entering from 6 o'clock). I used to follow the 'rules' and use the left lane, then indicate left on passing the first exit, but I have been caught out several times by either:

A: Cars entering from the first exit, presuming I'm turning left as I'm in the left lane (even though I'm not indicating), therefore pulling out in front of me, or

B: Cars heading for the same direction as me, heading for the same second exit, however positioned in the right lane, cutting across me, while we're both exiting the second exit

The above are two situations which seem to divide people. 50% do one thing and 50% do the opposite! Hard to know what to be doing!

djimi

BarryD wrote: »

Pet hate? Many people have either lost or never acquired the basic skill of reversing into a parking bay. They just drive forward into them and are then seen later reversing back out into the traffic flow, even though they can barely see what's coming. If they drive a jeep or estate type car, their arse is halfway across the traffic flow in many cases before they can see out. It's a modern scourge, even carparks and some onstreet parking have angled bays now, encouraging this habit. Compounded when the shoppers arrive back in their car on a wet day and all the windows steam up. Breaks a basic rule, that you don't reverse into a lane or road that is carrying more traffic than what you are on. You reverse into the lesser lane/ bay/ road and then pull forwards into the route carrying heavy traffic.

Sat in a car park recently watching people - I'd say about 30% reversed into their parking spaces. Behaviour sometimes affected by adjacent cars - i.e. if several cars parked facing out, arriving driver more likely to reverse in to match them. People are like sheep at end of day, I guess!! Rant over

Its worth bearing in mind that if you reverse into a space in a supermarket then its very difficult to pack your boot with your shopping when you are leaving. Not that I necessarily disagree with you, but its often down to practicality and not laziness that people drive into spaces.

I also think that the slanted spaces are perfectly fine and safe to drive into. They are normally angled at such a way that you have good visibility of the one direction that traffic will be coming from, so reversing out is not an issue really.

antoobrien

Popoutman wrote: »

Yep, happened my ex-girlfriend.

Car thieves must be lazy in Galway so. I know a lad who left his window open (drove in) and the car beside it (reversed in) was stolen.

Popoutman wrote: »

It's safer to reverse into parking spots - there are many building sites that I was on where the H&S rules stated that spaces must be reversed into. One specific example was the wind farm site at Rockchapel.

That stinks of over-zealous H&S

Popoutman wrote: »

It makes sense when you realise that you can get visibility of traffic coming from the sides much sooner when you are facing into the road than when you are facing away from the road.

The only time I ever had that problem was when I parked in a place that - in 20-20 hindsight - I probably shouldn't have. Despite the fact that it was designated parking spaces, there was a steeper incline than it appeared from the road which made it much harder to get out of.

Driving into spaces is actually often more courteous than reversing, as it takes less time and frees up roadspace quicker, allowing others to go about their business in a more timely fashion than holding them up by reversing.

In car parks (one of the points raised previously) it's often easier to get at the boot when parked from the road than when in a double space or up against a wall.

All in all I think that people complaining about this are just inconsiderate <insert expletive here>.

The problem with this of course is the "my road" phenomenon described earlier, where people will just do what they want and reverse out without looking, which is just as likely to be done by people that have reversed in.

Owenw

NipNip wrote: »

Out of a matter of interest, are you allowed to break the speed limit while overtaking?

Say, you've someone in front of you doing 90kmph in a 100 zone. You've a clear road of 500m in front of you, in order to overtake. If you have a squad car behind you (this actually happened me once or twice), can you speed up to 110kmph while overtaking quickly, or should you technically sit behind yer man in front, as to overtake safely, you would break the speed limit?

I suspect this is the reason people in the overtaking lane creep alongside while overtaking. I've often seen it around the Spa Hotel on the N4, where the speed limit is really low for a few miles.

Other question is a roundabout one. There is a roundabout locally, where the first exit is straight on as the crow flies. That one is grand, left lane, indicating left. The second exit however is at approximately 2 o'clock (if you're entering from 6 o'clock). I used to follow the 'rules' and use the left lane, then indicate left on passing the first exit, but I have been caught out several times by either:

A: Cars entering from the first exit, presuming I'm turning left as I'm in the left lane (even though I'm not indicating), therefore pulling out in front of me, or

B: Cars heading for the same direction as me, heading for the same second exit, however positioned in the right lane, cutting across me, while we're both exiting the second exit

The above are two situations which seem to divide people. 50% do one thing and 50% do the opposite! Hard to know what to be doing!

Assuming single lane roads (s2) entering and exiting you should position yourself on the right side of your lane, hugging the white line and indicating right as you enter the roundabout, use right side of roundabout until passing first exit, then indicate left and move to left side of roundabout, then exit. Anticipate stupidity and maintain good observation at all times.

CramCycle

Parking on fuppin corners, why would you park on a corner you moron. STOP parking on corners.

djimi

antoobrien wrote: »

That stinks of over-zealous H&S

Depends on the company. Usually it is introduced as a safety measure to ensure that the car park can be cleared more quickly in the case of an emergency.

Many schools will often have this rule to ensure that people are not reversing out of spaces where lots of kids will be walking around.

jca

djimi wrote: »

Depends on the company. Usually it is introduced as a safety measure to ensure that the car park can be cleared more quickly in the case of an emergency.

Many schools will often have this rule to ensure that people are not reversing out of spaces where lots of kids will be walking around.

You can have all the rules you like, getting people to obey them, now that's a whole different ball game....

keithclancy

Morons that flake past you on the motorway/dual carriageway only to pull sharply in to your lane and slam on the brakes to make their exit.

Some Belgian moron passed me doing around 140-150 in a 100km/h zone on a dual carriageway and then swerved in front of me without indicating and slammed on the brakes causing his abs to come on, all because he wanted to get to his exit that little bit faster.

Either that or he was trying to scam me into crashing into him but luckily I slowed down as soon as he started to pull into my lane.

Need a dashcam :mad:

All of them. ALL of them.

djimi

jca wrote: »

You can have all the rules you like, getting people to obey them, now that's a whole different ball game....

Again depends on the situation. Its faily easy to introduce rules like this to a company, where employees can face disciplinary action.

I know of at least one school who make a big song and dance about how people park; they will start calling you in for meetings, I think they might even try and fine you. Maybe it might not be much, but for the sake of just parking as they ask Im sure its not worth the hassle.

lintdrummer

People who travel below 100kph on motorways for no reason. M2 is rife with people sauntering along at 80. Dangerous stuff.

dr.fuzzenstein

lintdrummer wrote: »

People who travel below 100kph on motorways for no reason. M2 is rife with people sauntering along at 80. Dangerous stuff.

There's a red 00 or thereabouts VW Caddy going from Shannon to Limerick every day at about 7:30 AM and that clown is driving at 60 km/h on the dual carriageway.
You can spot him a mile away, because there's always massive chaos around him, as cars, trucks, tractors and stationary objects that are moving faster than him are trying to get past.
He, of course, has absolutely no idea as he trundles along with a vacant look on his face as he's "saaavin' de daaaesel"
Haven't seen him now in a while, let's hope he emigrated somewhere far away.

jca

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

There's a red 00 or thereabouts VW Caddy going from Shannon to Limerick every day at about 7:30 AM and that clown is driving at 60 km/h on the dual carriageway.
You can spot him a mile away, because there's always massive chaos around him, as cars, trucks, tractors and stationary objects that are moving faster than him are trying to get past.
He, of course, has absolutely no idea as he trundles along with a vacant look on his face as he's "saaavin' de daaaesel"
Haven't seen him now in a while, let's hope he emigrated somewhere far away.

At least it's dual carriageway, try driving between Enniscorthy and Bunclody or Enniscorthy and Wexford..... It's enough to tip you over the edge.

djimi

lintdrummer wrote: »

People who travel below 100kph on motorways for no reason. M2 is rife with people sauntering along at 80. Dangerous stuff.

I tried to merge onto the M7 the other day but was severely hampered by the old bollox in the Micra who was doing about 65km/h in the left lane just ahead of where I would be entering the road. Meant that I had to slow down significantly just to merge safely.

NipNip

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

There's a red 00 or thereabouts VW Caddy going from Shannon to Limerick every day at about 7:30 AM and that clown is driving at 60 km/h on the dual carriageway.
You can spot him a mile away, because there's always massive chaos around him, as cars, trucks, tractors and stationary objects that are moving faster than him are trying to get past.
He, of course, has absolutely no idea as he trundles along with a vacant look on his face as he's "saaavin' de daaaesel"
Haven't seen him now in a while, let's hope he emigrated somewhere far away.

dr.fuzzenstein

jca wrote: »

At least it's dual carriageway, try driving between Enniscorthy and Bunclody or Enniscorthy and Wexford..... It's enough to tip you over the edge.

I have developed a certain tolerance and I know to expect fcukery when driving certain roads.
But when I see some mouthbreather driving at 40-60 km/h and weaving all over the road, my blood pressure does rise.
Worst one I saw was a car driving from Crusheen to Gort and going 30-60-30-60-30-60 all the way, whilst weaving nearly all over the entire road space.
Basically when people, who should not be out alone and unsupervised and who should not have control of a shopping trolley, nevermind a car, are causing havoc on the road.
And don't come to me with bullsh*t like "But how is old Mary going to get to the shop?"
One day old Mary won't see that child and run it down. Then people will scream and jump up and down, but then it's too late.
My dad drove with dementia, it was a hell of a job to get him off the road, but we did it before he killed someone.
My point is, if some state agency tells you to hand over your licence, you can scream and shout about it and jump up and down and curse the government, but in the end there is absolutely no choice whatsoever.
But trying to take a licence of a family member is just so much harder.
And what if there is no family? A lot of people can drive any way they want, because they are not drunk they think they're OK. And that kind of thinking has to stop.

So, my BIGGEST pet hate on the road:
Anyone who says "But I am ENTITLED to be on the road! I pay my taxes! I can drive any way I see fit! I passed my test (in 1967) and I KNOW how to drive!"
No. You are not entitled to be on the road. You have permission to be on the road as long as you fulfil the right criteria. If you don't, you're not.
Simple as.

tom_tarbucket

Im sitting in traffic at lights, im the 4th car back, the lights go green, the driver in front of me is in cloud cuckoo land and dosent know the lights have gone green, 10 seconds later he realises at last second that the lights are green and shoots off and in doing so, he brakes a red light. I have then missed my opportunity and have to wait. If the fookin w@nk in front was aware, I would have made the lights as well as about 3 people behind me, pisses me off.

FunLover18

NipNip wrote: »

Out of a matter of interest, are you allowed to break the speed limit while overtaking?

Say, you've someone in front of you doing 90kmph in a 100 zone. You've a clear road of 500m in front of you, in order to overtake. If you have a squad car behind you (this actually happened me once or twice), can you speed up to 110kmph while overtaking quickly, or should you technically sit behind yer man in front, as to overtake safely, you would break the speed limit?

I suspect this is the reason people in the overtaking lane creep alongside while overtaking. I've often seen it around the Spa Hotel on the N4, where the speed limit is really low for a few miles.

No. You're not allowed break the speed limit. My dad was pulled over once for breaking limit while overtaking on a single lane.

NipNip wrote: »

Other question is a roundabout one. There is a roundabout locally, where the first exit is straight on as the crow flies. That one is grand, left lane, indicating left. The second exit however is at approximately 2 o'clock (if you're entering from 6 o'clock). I used to follow the 'rules' and use the left lane, then indicate left on passing the first exit, but I have been caught out several times by either:

A: Cars entering from the first exit, presuming I'm turning left as I'm in the left lane (even though I'm not indicating), therefore pulling out in front of me, or

B: Cars heading for the same direction as me, heading for the same second exit, however positioned in the right lane, cutting across me, while we're both exiting the second exit

The above are two situations which seem to divide people. 50% do one thing and 50% do the opposite! Hard to know what to be doing!

The only time I would ever use the left lane for an exit past twelve o'clock would be if that exit happens to be the first exit which happens occasionally but rarely. Aside from that anything past twelve is right lane with right indicator.

dr.fuzzenstein

tom_tarbucket wrote: »

Im sitting in traffic at lights, im the 4th car back, the lights go green, the driver in front of me is in cloud cuckoo land and dosent know the lights have gone green, 10 seconds later he realises at last second that the lights are green and shoots off and in doing so, he brakes a red light. I have then missed my opportunity and have to wait. If the fookin w@nk in front was aware, I would have made the lights as well as about 3 people behind me, pisses me off.

That's what the 1-2-3-beeep! rule is for. Nothing aggressive, just a friendly little beep.
I cannot understand how Irish people will patiently sit behind someone daydreaming through at least 3 green lights and everyone is too timid to use the bloody horn!

djimi

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

That's what the 1-2-3-beeep! rule is for. Nothing aggressive, just a friendly little beep.
I cannot understand how Irish people will patiently sit behind someone daydreaming through at least 3 green lights and everyone is too timid to use the bloody horn!

Exactly. I have no hesitation in blowing them out of it. 3 seconds is actually generous!

tom_tarbucket

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

That's what the 1-2-3-beeep! rule is for. Nothing aggressive, just a friendly little beep.
I cannot understand how Irish people will patiently sit behind someone daydreaming through at least 3 green lights and everyone is too timid to use the bloody horn!

Oh dont get me wrong, I do blow, but sometimes, the traffic light sequence is very quick and even with blowing I end up missing it whereas the lad in front just scrapes through.

Mint Sauce

keithclancy wrote: »

Morons that flake past you on the motorway/dual carriageway only to pull sharply in to your lane and slam on the brakes to make their exit.

Some Belgian moron passed me doing around 140-150 in a 100km/h zone on a dual carriageway and then swerved in front of me without indicating and slammed on the brakes causing his abs to come on, all because he wanted to get to his exit that little bit faster.

Either that or he was trying to scam me into crashing into him but luckily I slowed down as soon as he started to pull into my lane.

Need a dashcam :mad:

Thats another thing, braking before you leave the carriage way to go on the exit. The exit slip is usally also the same speed limit as the carraige way for atleast 2-300 metres.

Wait till your a good bit up the slip before braking. The same also applies to joining the carraige way, drive at the speed of the traffic flow before you merge.

:mad:

tom_tarbucket

tom_tarbucket wrote: »

Im sitting in traffic at lights, im the 4th car back, the lights go green, the driver in front of me is in cloud cuckoo land and dosent know the lights have gone green, 10 seconds later he realises at last second that the lights are green and shoots off and in doing so, he brakes a red light. I have then missed my opportunity and have to wait. If the fookin w@nk in front was aware, I would have made the lights as well as about 3 people behind me, pisses me off.

There's another variation of this too with lights that have a road sensor:

The first few cars go. The third driver, that normally has a Micra, eventually wakes up, engages 1st gear, eases off the handbrake but it's too late. The lights change before she they have time to trigger the sensor. They then stop a good bit off the lights and still fail to trigger the sensor. Time passes on until eventually the Micra driver has shuffled their way far enough to trigger the sensor and the lights finally change.

Meanwhile the third car that happens to be a Micra...