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Why the obsession with squats and deadlifts?

  • 05-05-2014 10:29am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭EdenHazard


    Most people you see doing them looking like crap. You see so much people doing squats these days because of the whole non lifters seeing some ripped brah in shorts where you can only see his ankles and coming out with the 'do u even squat, bro?':rolleyes:
    However its the biggest broscience going that doing squats will lead to growth all over. They are a good exercise but no more important than any other srs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,311 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    I'm assuming because they're down in weight-lifting folklore as "whole body workouts", some people think that only doing squats will work out their entire body?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    EdenHazard wrote: »
    Most people you see doing them looking like crap.

    Are you serious? Anyone serious about bodybuilding or building a well balanced muscular body does heavy squats and deads.

    And to answer your question theiy're a compound movement that requires the use of a large amount of muscles. More muscle used>greater growth potential. It also helps that you can push big numbers and increase them in a fairly steady rate at the beginning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,902 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    Of course squats and deadlifts are good, you're judging them by the people you see at the gym 'not looking good'?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    EdenHazard wrote: »
    Most people you see doing them looking like crap.

    Excuse you. I look GREEEAT :D:D


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Why the obsession with how others look in the gym?

    Squats and Dealifts are both great exercises for many reasons. So I'll ask you, why wouldn't you do them?

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,420 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,675 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    You're just phoning in your trolling now, Eden.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭brian plank


    Excuse you. I look GREEEAT :D:D

    inr2QdwduXuCH.gif


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    The only people worse than the "you gotta squat bro" brigade are the "don't squat cos everyone says you have to bro" team.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    Hanley wrote: »
    The only people worse than the "you gotta squat bro" brigade are the "don't squat cos everyone says you have to bro" team.

    Bro, do you even lift?
    tumblr_inline_mh5brhksN51qg1vd7.jpg


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 495 ✭✭bootybouncer


    For me whats quite annoying now is the amount of women squatting and deadlifting .......................... getting ridiculous in the gyms


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Jasper Few Wasp


    For me whats quite annoying now is the amount of women squatting and deadlifting .......................... getting ridiculous in the gyms

    What's it to you if I squat or deadlift :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭djk1000


    Maybe the people you see are new to lifting, there are lots of squats and deadlifts in starting strength for example, which is a program that a lot of people do starting out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭RidleyRider


    For me whats quite annoying now is the amount of women squatting and deadlifting .......................... getting ridiculous in the gyms

    Power fcuking too them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,675 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    For me whats quite annoying now is the amount of women squatting and deadlifting better than me......................... getting ridiculous in the gyms

    FYP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭juke


    For me whats quite annoying now is the amount of women squatting and deadlifting .......................... getting ridiculous in the gyms

    Bleedin' women, coming to our gyms, using our squat racks :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭whirlpool


    The OP's question seems to be why is there so much more focus on squats and deadlifts than on the plenty of other equally as effective similar exercises.

    If that's the question, I guess it's because they are very simple movements (relatively) and use a lot of muscle in one go. Maybe other movements don't, as much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,675 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    whirlpool wrote: »
    The OP's question seems to be why is there so much more focus on squats and deadlifts than on the plenty of other equally as effective similar exercises.

    If that's the question, I guess it's because they are very simple movements (relatively) and use a lot of muscle in one go. Maybe other movements don't, as much.

    The OP just likes trolling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    I cannot Squat or Deadlift now due to a slipped disc and i must admit i do miss them


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 495 ✭✭bootybouncer


    bluewolf wrote: »
    What's it to you if I squat or deadlift :confused:

    nowt ...........my opinion is my own...........................sick of fat assed women thinking its some how healthy to have an ass like a dumper truck


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,852 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »

    Wow, it's amazing what steroids can do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭Hani Kosti


    I'm happy there are people like Hanley who teach women how to squat and deadlift!!!
    Nothing as empowering as lifting truly heavy stuff =)
    BTW deadlifts are my favourite


  • Subscribers Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭conzy


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Wow, it's amazing what steroids can do

    While there is no doubt that Mr Olympias are steroid enhanced.. How long before you could deadlift 800lb with the help of steroids?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 495 ✭✭bootybouncer


    conzy wrote: »
    While there is no doubt that Mr Olympias are steroid enhanced.. How long before you could deadlift 800lb with the help of steroids?

    every pro bodybuilder has juiced, anyone who denies this is ignorant to the game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,373 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Brian? wrote: »
    Why the obsession with how others look in the gym?

    Squats and Dealifts are both great exercises for many reasons. So I'll ask you, why wouldn't you do them?

    Is it because they're ... hard....?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,675 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    every pro bodybuilder has juiced, anyone who denies this is ignorant to the game

    "Is this a 'roid rage I see before me?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    nowt ...........my opinion is my own...........................sick of fat assed women thinking its some how healthy to have an ass like a dumper truck

    Hey look if men didn't like it Sir Mix A Lot wouldn't have made a song about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    nowt ...........my opinion is my own...........................sick of fat assed women thinking its some how healthy to have an ass like a dumper truck

    You can have all the chicken butts you want , no-one is stopping you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    How long does it take you guys to recover after doing squats? I can barely walk for 2-3 days afterwards. Recovery seems to be so slow compared to other body parts.


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  • Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'd be a little stiff the next day but the DOMS would be very light... Any variation in foot position can change that, though. It probably depends on how often you squat. More frequently = less DOMS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,675 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Daveysil15 wrote: »
    How long does it take you guys to recover after doing squats? I can barely walk for 2-3 days afterwards. Recovery seems to be so slow compared to other body parts.

    How often do you squat?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭Duck's hoop


    every pro bodybuilder has juiced, anyone who denies this is ignorant to the game

    I'm pretty sure nobody denies it. And everybody knows it.

    The fact remains that even with a truck load of hormoneboosteroids the vast majority of dudes are never going to get that strong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    How often do you squat?

    Not that often really, maybe once a fortnight, sometimes once a week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,675 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Daveysil15 wrote: »
    Not that often really, maybe once a fortnight, sometimes once a week.

    That why's you're getting DOMS so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,852 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    conzy wrote: »
    While there is no doubt that Mr Olympias are steroid enhanced.. How long before you could deadlift 800lb with the help of steroids?

    Dunno, wouldn't put that sh1t in my body


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    That why's you're getting DOMS so.

    Yeah I thought that might be the reason alright. I've been focusing more on cardio lately using the exercise bike, so I haven't been doing the squats as much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭siochain


    For me whats quite annoying now is the amount of women squatting and deadlifting .......................... getting ridiculous in the gyms

    It's great to see more women moving away from doing hours of cardio and moving over to the barbel section. And they are usually a much better laugh than some of the male tools who go around checking out there biceps in mirrors for half their session.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,671 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    nowt ...........my opinion is my own...........................sick of fat assed women thinking its some how healthy to have an ass like a dumper truck
    Given your username, the above is quite ironic.

    I expected you'd be more than this creep guy
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=90245674&postcount=2432
    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Dunno, wouldn't put that sh1t in my body

    It's already in your body. In your balls :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,863 ✭✭✭kevpants


    EdenHazard wrote: »
    Most people you see doing them looking like crap. You see so much people doing squats these days because of the whole non lifters seeing some ripped brah in shorts where you can only see his ankles and coming out with the 'do u even squat, bro?':rolleyes:
    However its the biggest broscience going that doing squats will lead to growth all over. They are a good exercise but no more important than any other srs.
    tumblr_m8gdfu7hVM1qzzx9e.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    EdenHazard wrote: »
    Most people you see doing them looking like crap. You see so much people doing squats these days because of the whole non lifters seeing some ripped brah in shorts where you can only see his ankles and coming out with the 'do u even squat, bro?':rolleyes:
    However its the biggest broscience going that doing squats will lead to growth all over. They are a good exercise but no more important than any other srs.
    clueless post.
    do some Leg Press & Leg Extension if u want to mess up your joints.
    Squats & Deadlifts are by far the best compound exercises as they work every muscle & are very good for your joints.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭chriity139


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Wow, it's amazing what steroids can do

    Hang on ill stick a bit of test in me, 800lb deadlift here I come :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭chriity139


    every pro bodybuilder has juiced, anyone who denies this is ignorant to the game

    Not just bodybuilding, ever single physical sport that gives you the opportunity to earn money from being the best you can be sure steroids are involved. Hate this rubbish oh only big lads are on are it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,852 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    chriity139 wrote: »
    Hang on ill stick a bit of test in me, 800lb deadlift here I come :D

    Best of luck. Keep training hard and inject as much as you possibly can and you'll reach your goal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,420 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    nowt ...........my opinion is my own...........................sick of fat assed women thinking its some how healthy to have an ass like a dumper truck

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you suggesting that women should stick to light dumbell work and cardio for 'toning'? Please enlighten us on your strength training tips for girls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you suggesting that women should stick to light dumbell work and cardio for 'toning'? Please enlighten us on your strength training tips for girls.

    Ah would you give him a break. I've no problem with women in the weights section but you can quickly tell the difference between those that mean business and the ones who are there because squatting and deadlifting are 'in' and wouldn't mind a load of fellas getting a good look at their arse in the process. The same women have done no research on the topic and can be seen squatting 20kg for weeks on end. I find it funny how we can all have a good laugh/whine about the 'bros' in gym curling in the squat rack and wasting people's time but when someone complains about a woman doing the equivalent the pitchforks come out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,675 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Ah would you give him a break. I've no problem with women in the weights section but you can quickly tell the difference between those that mean business and the ones who are there because squatting and deadlifting are 'in' and wouldn't mind a load of fellas getting a good look at their arse in the process. The same women have done no research on the topic and can be seen squatting 20kg for weeks on end. I find it funny how we can all have a good laugh/whine about the 'bros' in gym curling in the squat rack and wasting people's time but when someone complains about a woman doing the equivalent the pitchforks come out.


    The difference is that he does have a problem with women squatting and deadlifting.

    There was no mention of it being the equivalent of curling in the squat rack. Just that women who don't have an ass that he likes the shape of should be squatting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    I find it funny how we can all have a good laugh/whine about the 'bros' in gym curling in the squat rack and wasting people's time but when someone complains about a woman doing the equivalent the pitchforks come out.

    Curls can be done anywhere. By doing them in the squat rack you're interfering with other people who wants to use it unnecessarily. It's a dick move for no real reason.

    And you say a woman is wasting peoples time by using the correct piece of equipment? Just because she's not pushing a weight you deem acceptable? Get off your high horse there mate. Just because someone is trying something new and doesn't have your (apparently) very strong squatting ability doesn't mean they have any less of a right to be there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    Blacktie. wrote: »
    Curls can be done anywhere. By doing them in the squat rack you're interfering with other people who wants to use it unnecessarily. It's a dick move for no real reason.

    And you say a woman is wasting peoples time by using the correct piece of equipment? Just because she's not pushing a weight you deem acceptable? Get off your high horse there mate. Just because someone is trying something new and doesn't have your (apparently) very strong squatting ability doesn't mean they have any less of a right to be there.

    It means that she hasn't done any research. If you don't see a problem with someone squatting the same weight for weeks on end then I've nothing more to say if I'm honest. I like the fact that you attacked me as a person as well, it makes for a really classy post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    It means that she hasn't done any research. If you don't see a problem with someone squatting the same weight for weeks on end then I've nothing more to say if I'm honest. I like the fact that you attacked me as a person as well, it makes for a really classy post.

    Why are you stalking the girl? Can you not just go to the gym and do your own thing instead of criticizing someone else's routine?

    The same people are in the gym with me every morning. Do I know what weights they are squatting? Hell no! Why? CAUSE I DO MY OWN THING AND DON'T LOOK AT OTHER PEOPLE!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    If you don't see a problem with someone squatting the same weight for weeks on end then I've nothing more to say

    Good stuff


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