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  • #52
    gnfnrhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    the groutch wrote: »
    There's a big difference though between allowing yourself to get beat up and putting someone over.

    Even if he does takes a proper beatdown, it's still almost always a case of "Cena Wins, LOL", or he loses due to a screwy finish and then buries them the next night by coming out all smiles and pretending it never happened.

    You can count on one hand the number of people he's lost to clean in the last 5 years

    How is that Cena's fault? He isn't a writer or a booker. He does as he is told. The days of Creative Control for the top guys are long gone.


  • #53
    mrkiscool2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    How is that Cena's fault? He isn't a writer or a booker. He does as he is told. The days of Creative Control for the top guys are long gone.
    You can't actually believe that? Sure look at Batista he is refusing to wrestle Bryan at Payback in a match that would be the main event! Also, the top guys would have more of a say on what they are going to do in ring so there is definitely a case of Cena being at least half at fault for the way he acts!


  • #54
    Ape Lincoln
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Ape Lincoln


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    How is that Cena's fault? He isn't a writer or a booker. He does as he is told. The days of Creative Control for the top guys are long gone.

    The piece makes a good point about that leaked Raw script: not all of Cena's promo crap from that night was in the script. Granted it wasn't a final draught however.


  • #55
    gnfnrhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    mrkiscool2 wrote: »
    You can't actually believe that? Sure look at Batista he is refusing to wrestle Bryan at Payback in a match that would be the main event! Also, the top guys would have more of a say on what they are going to do in ring so there is definitely a case of Cena being at least half at fault for the way he acts!

    Batista was supposed to be taking time off. WWE want him to stay on. That's not creative control, that's a disagreement about dates.

    Cena, like everyone else, is given a script to follow. You can blame Triple H, Stephanie, Vince etc. for how he acts. They make the decisions, not Cena or anyone else.
    Ape Lincoln wrote: »
    The piece makes a good point about that leaked Raw script: not all of Cena's promo crap from that night was in the script. Granted it wasn't a final draught however.

    Looked like a very early version. Del Rio wrestled twice but was listed as injured in the script.


  • #56
    mrkiscool2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    Batista was supposed to be taking time off. WWE want him to stay on. That's not creative control, that's a disagreement about dates.

    Cena, like everyone else, is given a script to follow. You can blame Triple H, Stephanie, Vince etc. for how he acts. They make the decisions, not Cena or anyone else.
    /QUOTE]
    Sorry, if he was meant to leave he wouldn't be wrestling at Payback. But he is. Also, when it comes to the in ring action wrestlers have A LOT of control. They decide a lot of things apart from the ending (and the kid coming down to the ring would probably have being a trips or Vince call)


  • #57
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,557 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    He was meant to leave. He wasn't agreed to do the PPV but then his schedule changed, essentially giving him a bit of wiggle room if the WWE wanted him for that PPV


  • #58
    Moneymaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    Batista was supposed to be taking time off. WWE want him to stay on. That's not creative control, that's a disagreement about dates.

    Cena, like everyone else, is given a script to follow. You can blame Triple H, Stephanie, Vince etc. for how he acts. They make the decisions, not Cena or anyone else.

    Top guys have always had a say in how they are booked. You can't honestly believe that the top babyface of the last 10 years has no say in how he's booked.


  • #59
    mrkiscool2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


    CSF wrote: »
    He was meant to leave. He wasn't agreed to do the PPV but then his schedule changed, essentially giving him a bit of wiggle room if the WWE wanted him for that PPV
    Yes, and once his schedule changed the WWE asked him to face Bryan in a title match He refused. It doesn't matter whether or not his schedule changed. He was asked to do something and refused. That's a top guy having a say in creative decisions. If you want to keep arguing against that then I don't know what to say like. Evidence proves you wrong on the Batista thing


  • #60
    gnfnrhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    I have a funny feeling that if Punk refused to wrestle Bryan people would be saying it was because he didnt want to take the focus off Bryan when he is going to be leaving afterwards. Just like how people tried to claim he left because Bryan wasnt planned for the Wrestlemania main event.

    On a related note, it has been reported that Bryan objected to running away from Kane. He's the WWE World Champion. If anyone is in a position to say no, it's him. On Raw, he ran away from Kane. His input meant nothing. Anyone can give their opinion, but it's up to the creative team and the McMahon's to decide what to do. To claim Cena essentially books his own stuff is beyond dumb.


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