Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

duffman13

Hococop wrote: »

See this is where I can't tell who is taking the piss and who is trying to be genuine, with all the speculation and rumors its hard to tell who is adding fuel to the fire, ive a feeling you're joking because of the specific time

I've contacts in Turin in fairness anyone coming on pretending to be ITK should be turfed out. If you seen something from a journo or someone of credibility then by all means post it. Posting that you have contacts is nonsense, I have contacts at underage level and most of the times these coaches who are involved with a club don't know senior team affairs so unless someone has an inside track to Woody or LVG there talking cap IMO

bangkok

yes I agree it is speculation on my behalf, on sky sports behalf and on BBC's as no one can know for certain only the player until the deal is signed for example, Gerrard in 2005 to Chelsea the deal was 99.9% completed and then at 12 o clock at night gerrard called the chairman and said he wanted to stay at Liverpool as his family had been threatened... or roy keane to Blackburn he shook hands with dalglish and he signed for united... and who can forget diego forlan and berbatov.... forlan agreed to join Middlesbrough, berba man city and were both met at the airport by utd officials and signed for united.....

BUT and its a massive but.... as it stands as of this moment from what I have been told luke Shaw and Toni Kroos will be joining Man Utd...

Necronomicon

Quite an entertaining piece written by a Dutch journalist with advice for his British counterparts in how to interview Van Gaal. Can't wait to see his first press conference.

http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2014/05/21/british-journalists-follow-these-ten-rules-for-interviewing-louis-van-gaal/

A little taste:

3. Don’t introduce yourself Or else he’ll know your name, remember it and use it against you. You will not be some anonymous guy with a microphone and a cameraman on his side; you will be Gary, or Clive, or Tony, with whom he will or will not have a feud from the get-go. (He will.)

duffman13

bangkok wrote: »

yes I agree it is speculation on my behalf, on sky sports behalf and on BBC's as no one can know for certain only the player until the deal is signed for example, Gerrard in 2005 to Chelsea the deal was 99.9% completed and then at 12 o clock at night gerrard called the chairman and said he wanted to stay at Liverpool as his family had been threatened... or roy keane to Blackburn he shook hands with dalglish and he signed for united... and who can forget diego forlan and berbatov.... forlan agreed to join Middlesbrough, berba man city and were both met at the airport by utd officials and signed for united.....

BUT and its a massive but.... as it stands as of this moment from what I have been told luke Shaw and Toni Kroos will be joining Man Utd...

Told by who? From what I've been told this also true, however my sources are journos on twitter etc. Your implying you have an inside knowledge which i highly doubt

kryogen

When you read "What I have been told" just assume he meant "What I have read"

Saves time

duffman13

kryogen wrote: »

When you read "What I have been told" just assume he meant "What I have read"

Saves time

Spot on, I need to stop biting!

FutureGuy

bangkok wrote: »

yes I agree it is speculation on my behalf, on sky sports behalf and on BBC's as no one can know for certain only the player until the deal is signed for example, Gerrard in 2005 to Chelsea the deal was 99.9% completed and then at 12 o clock at night gerrard called the chairman and said he wanted to stay at Liverpool as his family had been threatened... or roy keane to Blackburn he shook hands with dalglish and he signed for united... and who can forget diego forlan and berbatov.... forlan agreed to join Middlesbrough, berba man city and were both met at the airport by utd officials and signed for united.....

BUT and its a massive but.... as it stands as of this moment from what I have been told luke Shaw and Toni Kroos will be joining Man Utd...

Well, as it stands as of this moment (11.20) from what I have been told, we are not signing Luke Shaw and Toni Kroos.

FutureGuy

The more I hear and read about Van Gaal, the more I cannot wait for the season to start.

adox

bangkok wrote: »

yes I agree it is speculation on my behalf, on sky sports behalf and on BBC's as no one can know for certain only the player until the deal is signed for example, Gerrard in 2005 to Chelsea the deal was 99.9% completed and then at 12 o clock at night gerrard called the chairman and said he wanted to stay at Liverpool as his family had been threatened... or roy keane to Blackburn he shook hands with dalglish and he signed for united... and who can forget diego forlan and berbatov.... forlan agreed to join Middlesbrough, berba man city and were both met at the airport by utd officials and signed for united.....

BUT and its a massive but.... as it stands as of this moment from what I have read luke Shaw and Toni Kroos will be joining Man Utd...

FYP

Its pretty lame pretending to be ITK

TheDoc

FutureGuy wrote: »

The more I hear and read about Van Gaal, the more I cannot wait for the season to start.

If he doesn't stunner Oliver Holt in his first preser I'll be nothing short of disappointed

Schwiiing

glued wrote: »

Pque is an overrated centre half. He's far too slow and prone to clumsy decisions. If he didn't have Busquets in front of him he'd be badly exposed. I wouldn't be surprised to see Barcelona buy two centre backs this summer.

Also I wouldn't be surprised to see Paul Pogba end up at Barcelona this Summer. The loss of Pogba rests solely at Ferguson's door. What an incredibly naive and stupid decision. The game where he played Rafael in midfield was an absolutely catastrophic decision and probably the straw that broke the Camels back for Pogba.

Didn't Pogba himself say that it was Fergies decision to bring Scholes out of retirement that persuaded him to leave?

duffman13

Schwiiing wrote: »

Didn't Pogba himself say that it was Fergies decision to bring Scholes out of retirement that persuaded him to leave?

Think he said that aswell but the main one was sticking a RB in instead of him at Blackburn made him realise he was wasting his time a united

dogsears

Quote:

3. Don’t introduce yourself Or else he’ll know your name, remember it and use it against you. You will not be some anonymous guy with a microphone and a cameraman on his side; you will be Gary, or Clive, or Tony, with whom he will or will not have a feud from the get-go. (He will.)

Or Geoff.

Heh! Can't wait! :pac:

bucketybuck

bangkok wrote: »

yes I agree it is speculation on my behalf

I thought you had a brother at Carrington and sources in Turin?

shrewdness

Bangkok's brother spotted at Carrington, our man on the scene and in the know.

tallaghtmick

bucketybuck wrote: »

I thought you had a brother at Carrington and sources in Turin?

His Brother is a toilet cleaner and his mate in Turin is Pogba who he met through said jax cleaning bro while at United.

duffman13

bangkok wrote: »

my source comes direct from Carrington.... and he happens to be my brother..:)

Is your brother a player/coach?

homerjay2005

tallaghtmick wrote: »

His Brother is a toilet cleaner and his mate in Turin is Pogba who he met through said jax cleaning bro while at United.

maybe the mystery of the mole tea lady has been finally resolved?

ericzeking

Ah.... that old 'what I have been told' nugget..... bangkok aint the only one

When you search van gaal in google, the 4th closest search term is 'Louis van gaal balls'

WTF :pac:

RobertKK

If United does have the money to buy any Byern Munich player according to the BILD, I would want Kroos and Muller.
The rumours United are interested in Konoplyanka, he would be good if and I would near enough bet my house on it that Muller is unobtainable.

I really believe Van Gaal should go strongly after Muller, a perfect player for United.
Muller: "It's not a secret that Louis van Gaal and I have a relationship that goes a bit further than a normal trainer-coach relationship"
Then the bad news... "I have a contract with Bayern Munich until the summer of 2017, I really enjoy playing for Bayern. There's not really anything better than this."
Pity he won't be leaving....

homerjay2005

RobertKK wrote: »

If United does have the money to buy any Byern Munich player according to the BILD, I would want Kroos and Muller.
The rumours United are interested in Konoplyanka, he would be good if and I would near enough bet my house on it that Muller is unobtainable.

I really believe Van Gaal should go strongly after Muller, a perfect player for United.
Muller: "It's not a secret that Louis van Gaal and I have a relationship that goes a bit further than a normal trainer-coach relationship"
Then the bad news... "I have a contract with Bayern Munich until the summer of 2017, I really enjoy playing for Bayern. There's not really anything better than this."
Pity he won't be leaving....

honestly, i dont think Muller will solve any of our problems.

keane2097

M!Ck^ wrote: »

When you search van gaal in google, the 4th closest search term is 'Louis van gaal balls'

WTF :pac:

Those suggestions are based on your own previous search patterns. Fourth search term for me is "Louis Van Gaal Spurs".

What have you been googling?

KH25

homerjay2005 wrote: »

honestly, i dont think Muller will solve any of our problems.

Id be inclined to agree with you. Our problems are in defence, midfield, pace and supplying the ball up front. Muller is an attacking player and we already have plenty of them.

homerjay2005

KH25 wrote: »

Id be inclined to agree with you. Our problems are in defence, midfield, pace and supplying the ball up front. Muller is an attacking player and we already have plenty of them.

while we all know what you say is true, its actually scary when you think about it and see it written so simple.

Pace is a big problem, but would Nasri, Silva, negredo and Aguero be that much quicker than our equivalent 4 - Kagawa, Mata, Van Persie and Rooney?

KH25

homerjay2005 wrote: »

while we all know what you say is true, its actually scary when you think about it and see it written so simple.

I thought exactly the same while I was typing it out. There really is so much to address with the team.

TheTownie

Hummels father/agent talking;

"I know Louis van Gaal from his time at Bayern Munich," Herman told talkSport.

"He's not contacted me about Mats moving to Manchester (United) though.

"I have heard some rumours but Mats is happy at Dortmund at the moment, and only thinking about the World Cup."

Lucas Hood

Mata Is a better number 10 than Muller imo. I think theres better wide players out there than him too.

tallaghtmick

I don't think we should sign Kroos, My very knowledgeable Liverpool supporting friends have suddenly come to the conclusion that he is crap, over rated, not worth 10 million, Cant get into the Bayern team, a reject, etc etc etc

keane2097

Muller can play pretty much anywhere and has great pace. Would be a huge asset to any squad.

Probably wouldn't solve any of the glaring squad problems United have directly the way, say, signing Shaw would, but would still add depth to the front six, while obviously being massively better than any of the other wingers at the club.

RobertKK

keane2097 wrote: »

Muller can play pretty much anywhere and has great pace. Would be a huge asset to any squad.

Probably wouldn't solve any of the glaring squad problems United have directly the way, say, signing Shaw would, but would still add depth to the front six, while obviously being massively better than any of the other wingers at the club.

Yeah where Valencia plays is a natural position for Muller.

A huge asset as you say and he knows where the goal is.

Maximus Alexander

I don't believe any of this ITK nonsense, since none of them report talking to the only non-footballing, and most knowledgeable, staff member at Old Trafford; the tea lady.

MagicIRL

Müller would be a sensational signing for United. He's only 24 and puts Young and Valencia to shame. He plays out right for Germany.

RobertKK

homerjay2005 wrote: »

honestly, i dont think Muller will solve any of our problems.

We only have one good winger - Januzaj who has similar stats to Ronaldo at 18 years of age.

MagicIRL

I read a LvG quote this morning (I think it was on the BBC but I can't find it) saying that only 6 United players currently can be guaranteed a spot in the team. Anyone have a link?

FutureGuy

MagicIRL wrote: »

I read a LvG quote this morning (I think it was on the BBC but I can't find it) saying that only 6 United players currently can be guaranteed a spot in the team. Anyone have a link?

Hmmmmmmm....

DDG - for sure
Van Persie - for sure
Mata - I would think so
Kagawa - rated very highly by LVG
Rooney - Surely?
Who would the sixth be?

Any word on René Meulensteen coming back to United?

thelad95

FutureGuy wrote: »

Hmmmmmmm....

DDG - for sure
Van Persie - for sure
Mata - I would think so
Kagawa - rated very highly by LVG
Rooney - Surely?
Who would the sixth be?

Cleverley? :rolleyes:

Januzaj perhaps as LVG likes to give youth a go but I'm not sure..

Antibac

MagicIRL wrote: »

I read a LvG quote this morning (I think it was on the BBC but I can't find it) saying that only 6 United players currently can be guaranteed a spot in the team. Anyone have a link?

Who do we reckon they could be? I'll go for DeGea Mata Rooney VanPersie Kagawa and Adnan

Hococop

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I don't believe any of this ITK nonsense, since none of them report talking to the only non-footballing, and most knowledgeable, staff member at Old Trafford; the tea lady.

we should send our tea lady to sign Kroos and Hummels

RobertKK

MagicIRL wrote: »

I read a LvG quote this morning (I think it was on the BBC but I can't find it) saying that only 6 United players currently can be guaranteed a spot in the team. Anyone have a link?

Wouldn't be surprised.

De Gea
RVP
Rooney
Mata
Kagawa
Januzaj???

No midfielders I can think of.
Rafael is questionable, Jones??? Evans???

TheDoc

De Gea
Mata
RVP
Januzaj
Rooney
Jones

Hopefully Kagawa does get a renewed lease of life under LVG, make or break season for him if hes still here end of summer.

MagicIRL

FutureGuy wrote: »

Hmmmmmmm....

DDG - for sure
Van Persie - for sure
Mata - I would think so
Kagawa - rated very highly by LVG
Rooney - Surely?
Who would the sixth be?

Well the BBC has our squad listed as


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RVP is safe and porbably in with a shout of being Captain
Kagawa and Mata are both excellent players and should be kept. Matagawa could really enjoy the attacking ball under LvG.
DeGea has been sensational. He's a deinate starter.
Rooney... could clash with LvG's character. Interesting to see.

And No. 6 being Adnannnnnnnnn

glued

zorro2566 wrote: »

Any word on René Meulensteen coming back to United?

Hopefully not. He's a very negative coach.

RobertKK

FutureGuy wrote: »

Hmmmmmmm....

DDG - for sure
Van Persie - for sure
Mata - I would think so
Kagawa - rated very highly by LVG
Rooney - Surely?
Who would the sixth be?

Seems we all agree on that five.

We all have trouble with number 6.

Fenix

Januzaj: 'I chose country where I was born & studied. I took my time, my decision is final coz I wanted to focus on #MUFC.' via Sport/Foot

For an 18 year old, any media stuff and interviews I've seem from Adnan have been very encouraging. He seems to be very mature and focused for his age.

LVG has all the credentials to enable Adnan to become the world class talent we all know he has the potential to be.

I'm just as excited to see how he progresses this season, as I am at the prospect of Kroos / Shaw / X, signing on the dotted line.

Cannot fuçking wait for next season.

glued

Rooney won't fit in with van Gaal. He's not disciplined enough. He offend ventures wildly towards the ball leaving huge gaps behind him. Leaving the two central midfielders behind him badly exposed.

Rooney is someone who can certainly be useful under van Gaal but only as a striker and van Persie is a better player than Rooney so I don't see this working out for him.

FutureGuy

Fenix wrote: »

For an 18 year old, any media stuff and interviews I've seem from Adnan have been very encouraging. He seems to be very mature and focused for his age.

LVG has all the credentials to enable Adnan to become the world class talent we all know he has the potential to be.

I'm just as excited to see how he progresses this season, as I am at the prospect of Kroos / Shaw / X, signing on the dotted line.

Cannot fuçking wait for next season.

Legend. But I'm docking maturity points for the "coz".

keane2097

keane2097 wrote: »

Those suggestions are based on your own previous search patterns. Fourth search term for me is "Louis Van Gaal Spurs".

What have you been googling?

Kid you not, I have checked on another PC and it's the same, No search history on these machines there shared anyway there searches related to, :rolleyes: Smartarse

RobertKK

glued wrote: »

Rooney won't fit in with van Gaal. He's not disciplined enough. He offend ventures wildly towards the ball leaving huge gaps behind him. Leaving the two central midfielders behind him badly exposed.

Rooney is someone who can certainly be useful under van Gaal but only as a striker and van Persie is a better player than Rooney so I don't see this working out for him.

ok I do think he could be sold if Van Gaal doesn't have a system to play both RVP and Rooney.
I think he will have a system to incorporate him, we are not overloaded with top players.
Most of us can pick 5 and then speculate on a 6th.