Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

bucketybuck

redbaron_99 wrote: »

But they still remain at the club, and have been getting a fair amount of game time. Which is part of my point.

Your point was that a formation change would make those players redundant, that if we want to change formation we will need to change those players.

But you are seeing it backwards, we have to change those players anyway. All it means is that when we are changing those players we may not necessarily replace like with like.

Think of it like this, you have a crappy two-story house that you are going to knock down and replace. Your question is like asking what this will mean for the old stairs. You might build another two-story or you might build a bungalow, but its irrelevant what the new house looks like, the stairs are done and need to go regardless.

Lucas Hood

Here's the actual interview with him.
http://fcdnipro.com/news/konopljanka-perejti-v-mju-skoree-vsego-ja-by-o-419.html

Lukker-

MD1990 wrote: »

The Guardian are not reliable at all.

http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/agent-says-konoplyanka-still-wants-liverpool-move-4005853#.U4CaYCiTKSo

also

You can't say the Guardian are unreliable and then post a link to tribal football..

I'm a neutral btw, don't care where that nobody ends up :pac:

billyhead

If its true that Barca left Fabregas out of their team photo I reckon hes on his bike and his destination is England. I believe he would choose us over Arsenal. As far as I know hes good mates with Mata and RVP and also we are a bigger club then Arsenal. One year out of the CL should not be a big deal.

tupac_healy

irishfeen wrote: »

Ah how dacent would it have been to see Kaka in his prime in a United shirt - at least his son is flying the United flag

Never know...

His son might be decent and he seems to fancy us!!!

redbaron_99

bucketybuck wrote: »

Your point was that a formation change would make those players redundant, that if we want to change formation we will need to change those players.

But you are seeing it backwards, we have to change those players anyway. All it means is that when we are changing those players we may not necessarily replace like with like.

Think of it like this, you have a crappy two-story house that you are going to knock down and replace. Your question is like asking what this will mean for the old stairs. You might build another two-story or you might build a bungalow, but its irrelevant what the new house looks like, the stairs are done and need to go regardless.

I fail to see why you are debating my post. I'm saying we no longer need our wingers. Then you say I'm seeing in backwards, and what we need to do is get rid of our wingers.

Have a nice day

Utopia Parkway

billyhead wrote: »

If its true that Barca left Fabregas out of their team photo I reckon hes on his bike and his destination is England. I believe he would choose us over Arsenal. As far as I know hes good mates with Mata and RVP and also we are a bigger club then Arsenal. One year out of the CL should not be a big deal.

A lot of presumptions there. One that he would pick United over Arsenal if both were actually interested in him at the same time. Second that United will be automatically back in the CL next season.

bucketybuck

redbaron_99 wrote: »

I fail to see why you are debating my post. I'm saying we no longer need our wingers. Then you say I'm seeing in backwards, and what we need to do is get rid of our wingers.

Have a nice day

What you actually did was ask a question based on a formation change

A 4-3-3 requires players of a different type. Does it makes players like Valencia, Zaha and Young redundant?

Those are your words. My response simply pointed out that it didn't matter.

RichFTW

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Here's the actual interview with him.
http://fcdnipro.com/news/konopljanka-perejti-v-mju-skoree-vsego-ja-by-o-419.html

This is part of what is translated for me using the chrome translate page button:

If you have two options - move to Manchester United or stay in the river and play in the Champions League - that choose?
- probably would have stayed in the river. But let's not get ahead.

That link is about as much use as a tribal football one!

GSPfan

I'm over the Fabregas rumours. One Summer of them was enough for my lifetime.

bmcc10

billyhead wrote: »

If its true that Barca left Fabregas out of their team photo I reckon hes on his bike and his destination is England. I believe he would choose us over Arsenal. As far as I know hes good mates with Mata and RVP and also we are a bigger club then Arsenal. One year out of the CL should not be a big deal.

Fabregas being left out of the photo means nothing, Isn't it something to do with puma? silly rumours.

irishfeen

tupac_healy wrote: »

Never know...

His son might be decent and he seems to fancy us!!!

If he is half as good as pops in his prime he might be worth a punt

Liam O

Ah lads, MD1990 tried this crap yesterday and nobody bit. A tribal football link with bullshìt quotes about a player rather playing at Dnipro than Manchester United. Right. I'd rather make a tenner an hour in Dublin than 100,000 a year in LA myself too.

Rayne Wooney

Love that Liverpool guy pulling quotes out of his arse

Luis Suarez:" Liverpool are a small fish in a big pond, United are the best and most successful club in England. But I like the sun and will be on my way to Madrid as soon as they make an offer"

Mikeyt086

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Mikeyt086 v Zerks in a Gif battle.

would be epic.

zerks wrote: »

Son Of A Vidic

tupac_healy wrote: »

Never know...

His son might be decent and he seems to fancy us!!!

No doubt 20 years from now, a whole summer will be spent discussing his signing. We will make an offer for him in June and then sit back. Chelsea will then come along in August and sign him up. All done without anyone even knowing they were interested in him.

Cantona's Collars

How Soon Is Now

zerks wrote: »

They must all buy there shirts in same place.

chips1234

zerks wrote: »

ketih gillespie is the image of RVP in that photo

EDIT: RVP with a beard on second look

Cantona's Collars

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

They must all buy there shirts in same place.

@JRonnyJohnsen

Selfie with the boys wearing Indonesian Batik

shadowcomplex

Would any of you prefer to see us sign Rakitic over Fabregas?

lordgoat

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Would any of you prefer to see us sign Rakitic over Fabregas?

Why can't we sign them both. Simply sign all the players.

FortuneChip

lordgoat wrote: »

Why can't we sign them both. Simply sign all the players.

Could not resist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrTsuvykUZk

Iused2likebusts

redbaron_99 wrote: »

I suppose this also raises a point about the wingers at the club. VG employs a 4-3-3 system, which is obviously different to the 4-4-2 we've been used to. Our numerous wingers were brought in to fit into the old system, because it required effective wide players.

A 4-3-3 requires players of a different type. Does it makes players like Valencia, Zaha and Young redundant?

When you think about it, the set up at the back will need to be slightly altered, with the full backs required to play a more significant role in attacks.

For the front three we are very well stocked, and don't require further signings. (RVP, Rooney, Welbeck, Chico, Januzaj, Nani, Wilson, Lingard.)

The set up of the middle three is not so clear. Is it going to be two holding players, with one attacking? Three all-rounders?

Or could it be one holding player with two forward minded players? If it is, then could we be seeing something like this next season:

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DDG

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Rafeal

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Smalling

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Evans

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LB/Shaw

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Fellaini

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Mata

---

Kagawa

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----Januzaj

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Rooney----

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RVP

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(you know what, for all the doom and gloom, that looks like a fcuking great team to me)

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That team would struggle big time to make the top 4 . A lack of pace in the front 6 and would get overrun in the middle. Not a great back 4 either.
Not that it matters because there is not a chance yiz will be as weak as that come the start of the season. Van Gaal will sign atleast 3 players that will improve the imbalance in the squad

tupac_healy

Why not take a break from the negativity and the bad news stories/apparent quotes & what not and play a little game.......

Utds first official signing of the summer transfer window will be _______________ for _________ million


* don't bother with that keeper we were linked with, let's keep the guesses marquee as such to try liven up spirits!

Rojiblancos

Google translated that interview with konoplyanka, it's translates like this...

If you have two options - move to Manchester United or stay in the river and play in the Champions League?
Most likely, would have remained in the river. But let's not get ahead.

So he'd rather stay in the river than join utd :pac:

Lucas Hood

Rojiblancos wrote: »

Google translated that interview with konoplyanka, it's translates like this...

If you have two options - move to Manchester United or stay in the river and play in the Champions League?
Most likely, would have remained in the river. But let's not get ahead.

So he'd rather stay in the river than join utd :pac:

Something to do with the Dnieper River.

GSPfan

Any news on the kit deal? Would really love adidas to get it. If any of the rumoured new kits are real they are all rotten.

Cantona's Collars

@howardnurse
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Cesc Fabregas is NOT on LVG's list of potential #MUFC summer transfer targets

That list that LVG left with Woodward seems to be getting shorter by the day,either that or Woodward has lost the list and is scared to tell Louis.

Cantona's Collars

ScummyMan

zerks wrote: »

That list that LVG left with Woodward seems to be getting shorter by the day,either that or Woodward has lost the list and is scared to tell Louis.

Only a matter of time now before "no value in the market" is rolled out :pac:

Lord TSC

zerks wrote: »

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That list that LVG left with Woodward seems to be getting shorter by the day,either that or Woodward has lost the list and is scared to tell Louis.

And/or the journalists don't actually know who is on the list, keeping making up stories to put on it and then changing their stances.

Seriously, did last night not show Nurse is a bit thick on United news at the moment....

Rayne Wooney

Van Gaal is going on my list if this keeps up :pac:


Think I'll take a break from United news for a few weeks and enjoy the World Cup, unless we sign somebody

Cantona's Collars

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

And/or the journalists don't actually know who is on the list, keeping making up stories to put on it and then changing their stances.

Seriously, did last night not show Nurse is a bit thick on United news at the moment....

He's quoting Simon Stone, ex-chief football writer for PA.

Mitch Connor

So Fabregas and Kroos not wanted. I thought LVG was like Fergie in terms of arrogance and attitude, but feck - he doesn't care about central midfield either!

ugh.

Paul Tergat

24th May and the hissy fits have already started.

The_Kew_Tour

Al Capwned wrote: »

Kew - Is Marchisio on your list? Would love him.

Actually, i wonder if we go to Conte with a blank cheque and ask him for one of him, Vidal or Pogba would we be laughed back to the airport?? Sure he doesn't need three of them.....

It was Red Crow (Eli Manning) that said we were signing him this summer.

I be happy to have him if it was true.

Lord TSC

Mitch Connor wrote: »

So Fabregas and Kroos not wanted. I thought LVG was like Fergie in terms of arrogance and attitude, but feck - he doesn't care about central midfield either!

ugh.

Or he simply doesn't think he needs to pay 30m+ for one. Or has his own targets in mind.

There were stories and quotes a few weeks back, and in fact it was a major selling point of his, that he doesn't play the "stars", and isn't interested in how much you cost. It's all about how you play and if you fit the system.

This sort of illogical hyperbole ("the stories are now he doesn't want these two particular players, ergo he doesn't want ANY central midfielders") is why people get annoyed at your line of arguement....

nicklauski

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Van Gaal is going on my list if this keeps up :pac:

You're going on my list Tony!

The_Kew_Tour

You're in for it now Tony!

Mikeyt086

Paul Tergat wrote: »

24th May and the hissy fits have already started.

I'm sorry but there definitely is cause for concern. What have we got so far? Re-signed Evra, a player everyone agrees cannot be first choice. We have bid for Shaw, then lost Southampton's phone number. We have been turned down by Toni Kroos, Thomas Muller, Arjen Robben, and Marco Reus, so "Operation Blitzkreig" is a no go. Transfer talk has gone from "Lads, I don't want Cavani." to "James McCarthy could do a job!". Next comes Lee Cattermole. WE HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE.

What happens then is people start to convince themselves that its all good. Look at Red_baron99's team from today. No offence intended to him, but the team had Fellaini at CDM with Mata and Kagawa alongside. So thats one giant and two midgets. Would be dominated by any organised team. It also had Smalling and Evans at CB. So when they both get injured its Jones and Carrick? I'm sorry but if we don't invest in quality we are in for another pisstake of a season. And there is just no way we can afford two in a row.

The way in which our club is doing its business is an absolute disaster. Whoever is leaking information is making us look like a bunch of mugs.

Mitch went on a bit of a rant today, and the responses were "The window isn't even open yet!" Were these people not around last summer? It's deja vu. The problems that everyone agrees need to be solved are not being solved. It's only May, yes, but PSG wanted David Luiz, they got him in a day. Barca signed the keeper they needed asap. We absolutely need to secure a top CM, instead we are ruling ourselves out of the running for them.

Last year Mitch and Homer had a number of rants that everyone, myself included, scoffed at. They actually saw where that window was going, and were correct. The rest of us came up with line after line as to why they were crazy, but the window came and went and we were left with a ball of hair who moves in slow motion unless he's elbowing someone in the face, and then there was uproar at how it was allowed to happen.

Here is my Boards.ie Man United Superthread Bingo for the remainder of the summer:

-It's May for feck sake! [X]
-The window isn't even open yet! [X]
-Lads, the World Cup is on, nobody is signing players!
-The players are on their holidays, next week I'm sure!
-We're on preseason tour, business will be done when we get back!
-First game of the season is coming up but we have until September!
-Eh... Deadline day maybe?
-...Oh ****.

I think, hope, and pray that LVG knows how badly we need new faces. I am confident we will make signings, but so far all the signs are posting towards another absolute circus of a window, so don't be so quick to jump on those who are worried.

Will I Amnt

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Whoever is leaking information is making us look like a bunch of mugs.

Or nobody is leaking information and the press are making it look bad.

thelad95

What would people think of offering Frank Lampard a cheeky contract if he doesn't agree anything with Chelsea? :cool:

bucketybuck

Paul Tergat wrote: »

24th May and the hissy fits have already started.

What this club needed more than anything else was to have its business done early. Uniteds needs are obvious and after the farce of last summer Woodward must have known this, the last eight months should have been spent doing the legwork to make this summers dealings a mere formality.

Its already clear that this hasn't happened. Deals aren't typed out ready for signing, no contracts and personal terms are agreed, and frankly it appears that the club still don't know who they actually want.

The 24th of May? I fully expected that by the 24th of May a rebuild would be well under way, after all the club has had eight months to prepare for the 24th May.

Lord TSC

I think, hope, and pray that LVG knows how badly we need new faces. I am confident we will make signings, but so far all the signs are posting towards another absolute circus of a window, so don't be so quick to jump on those who are worried.

No problem with people "worrying", but there's a line between it and "Omg, its a joke, idiots, we're doomed!" Chicken Little nonsense....

bucketybuck wrote: »

What this club needed more than anything else was to have its business done early. Uniteds needs are obvious and after the farce of last summer Woodward must have known this, the last eight months should have been spent doing the legwork to make this summers dealings a mere formality.

You think that LVG then shouldn't have had input on incoming deals? Cause it strikes me he's the very manager who'd have told United to **** off had he thought he was going to be landed with a team that wasn't his...

Mikeyt086

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Or nobody is leaking information and the press are making it look bad.

No journalist such as Jamie Jackson or similar would totally fabricate a story and risk their reputation. Unlike The Express who are blatantly pulling stories out fo their arse. He would have been informed by a source at the club. So people at the club are briefing these journalists, and they are doing it far too often.

Side note: I wouldn't be surprised if Man City complete the signing of Porto's Fernando in the next few days for €15m, its coming from the source who broke Luiz to PSG. That would mean MANCHESTER CITY are strengthening their CM options even though it's "only May".

JerCotter7

Hmm which is worst. The press making everything up since they really don't know **** about the transfers or people in here having a melt down at every rumour. I'm quite enjoying this summer so far.

Manutd_4life

Recently ive seen a lot of quotes from Howard Nurse. Is he a reliable journo

irishfeen

Manutd_4life wrote: »

Recently ive seen a lot of quotes from Howard Nurse. Is he a reliable journo

Always found him very very solid

Will I Amnt

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

No journalist such as Jamie Jackson or similar would totally fabricate a story and risk their reputation.

I disagree. Manchester United have the biggest fan base in football. Having a story on United is the big one for these lads, if there's none, they will make one.
They can always talk their way out of it with rubbish like "he was on the old list" when nothing comes of it.