Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

TheDoc

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Superb post ,I think you have hit the nail on the head with your analysis .
Sadly though I only see 2 thanks for your post which is very worrying.

I imagine a lot of people stop reading after the second paragraph of most of my stuff

I need to come with a TL;DR translation

RobertKK

RobertKK wrote: »

At least there was passion behind the scenes...

I never doubted Vidic and his commitment on and off the pitch. The article that I read last night indicated he was very well spoken.

Glad he gave Evra a bollocking 100% deserved it with the ****ty season he had anyway.

KH25

I hope Vidic did indeed have a go at Evra. He plays like he doesn't care anymore. His defending has become an absolute joke in the last 2 years or so. It still baffles me that he has been played so regularly, just like Valencia.

TheDoc

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

Quite funny if that's a real quote

I believe that Pirlo quote is a fake.

In his book he was pretty scathing on Park, while mentioning that he was always under the impression he had ability, had little respect for his play after the job he did on him.

It's not uncommon for a player retiring etc., for a lot of fake praising quotes to appear.

Vic Vinegar

TheDoc wrote: »

I believe that Pirlo quote is a fake.

In his book he was pretty scathing on Park, while mentioning that he was always under the impression he had ability, had little respect for his play after the job he did on him.

It's not uncommon for a player retiring etc., for a lot of fake praising quotes to appear.

I was unsure myself, describes Park well either way though!

homerjay2005

Hococop wrote: »

Problem is the player that showed the passion has now left

to be fair, Vidic didnt exactly set the world alight all season...no point showing passion in the dressing room, if it isnt brought to the pitch.

and if he was so worried about the club, he'd have hung around and showed more passion as opposed to sitting with a big contract in front of him for another club.

TheDoc

KH25 wrote: »

I hope Vidic did indeed have a go at Evra. He plays like he doesn't care anymore. His defending has become an absolute joke in the last 2 years or so. It still baffles me that he has been played so regularly, just like Valencia.

Which is why I've fondness for Buttner.

PLenty of "understudies" in his position would be making utterings to the media or via their agent at being unhappy they arn't getting a look in.

Lad has the genuine look that he is chuffed he is at the club, appreciates the once in a lifetime opportunity he is being given and is ensuring he doesn't put his foot in his mouth.

While it might be a case of him not being good enough which is fine, he's a good case study for young players and how to go about being second fiddle.

Sat on the bench watching the first choice hapless stumble through the season, get's the nod to cope with one of the best wingers in Europe, and even as early in the game his flank was shockingly exposed with no help from the wing, he coped magnificently. And has done anytime he has come in really.

Might not get the fair crack at United, but won't have any issue finding another club if he decided to leave.

glued

TheDoc wrote: »

I believe that Pirlo quote is a fake.

In his book he was pretty scathing on Park, while mentioning that he was always under the impression he had ability, had little respect for his play after the job he did on him.

It's not uncommon for a player retiring etc., for a lot of fake praising quotes to appear.

Yep, this is what he actually said about Park:

'At Milan, [Ferguson] unleashed Park Ji-Sung to shadow me.
“He rushed about at the speed of an electron. He’d fling himself at me, his hands all over my back, trying to intimidate me.

“He’d look at the ball and not know what it was for. They had programmed him to stop me. His devotion to the task was almost touching. Even though he was a famous player, he consented to being used as a guard dog.”

Park destroyed Pirlo in that game. He was a complete non-factor. Great tactics by Fergie.

NTMK

TheDoc wrote: »

I believe that Pirlo quote is a fake.

In his book he was pretty scathing on Park, while mentioning that he was always under the impression he had ability, had little respect for his play after the job he did on him.

It's not uncommon for a player retiring etc., for a lot of fake praising quotes to appear.

i believe Pirlo called Park a guard dog and is quite bitter about it

KH25

TheDoc wrote: »

Which is why I've fondness for Buttner.

PLenty of "understudies" in his position would be making utterings to the media or via their agent at being unhappy they arn't getting a look in.

Lad has the genuine look that he is chuffed he is at the club, appreciates the once in a lifetime opportunity he is being given and is ensuring he doesn't put his foot in his mouth.

While it might be a case of him not being good enough which is fine, he's a good case study for young players and how to go about being second fiddle.

Sat on the bench watching the first choice hapless stumble through the season, get's the nod to cope with one of the best wingers in Europe, and even as early in the game his flank was shockingly exposed with no help from the wing, he coped magnificently. And has done anytime he has come in really.

Might not get the fair crack at United, but won't have any issue finding another club if he decided to leave.

Agree 100%. I never understood why Moyes didn't stick with Buttner after the first leg against Bayern. he was exceptional against Robben. That was his chance and he took it very well. Evra should have been benched from that point on.

dubmick

LVG announcement today lads?

dubmick

dubmick wrote: »

LVG announcement today lads?

Where's Futureguy?

Can we start,

'LVG is not going to be announced as manager'

2moreMinutes

TheDoc wrote: »

I'm not into the going back and finding old posts of mine, but I do remember after that game mentioning and highlighting that there was a somewhat aggressive tension between Evra and Vidic. At one point Sterling has bombed the flank and Vidic had to intervene, the cameras caught Vidic speaking, but signalling out to the flank that he needed to come back. Evra closed his eyes and gave a little shrug.

A few other people picked up on it aswell, but it was a noticable issues throughout the season.

I don't think it's neccesarily a bad thing, Vidic has primarily operated alongside Evra on that side of the pitch, but it was definitly more noticeable the two having words on the pitch this season as Vidic was pulled more and more out to cover.

Always liked Vidic, while his Inter guff this year left a sour taste, can't but help liking him. He's a real throwback of what a Captain is and should be. I somewhat felt strongly about him being a shadow of his formerself this year, and felt it was best he moved on and not become someone like Ferdinand, a mockery of former glories.

But when I saw him busted open on Sunday, edging to get back on, and nearly net a corner shortly afterwards with blood running down his face, had a real moment of sadness that not only will I never see him in red again, but that you might not see another like him again. Last of a dieing breed of balls the wall defenders.

If you'd to pick four defenders to defend your box against eleven opponents for 90 minutes, you'd put Vidic out on his tod and be confident enough he'll get it done.

I've had similar thoughts about Vidic this year. The contract signing picture annoyed the hell outta me and I felt he should have been stripped of the captaincy there and then.
I also felt his performances were not on the very high level he set himself over his time at the club.
All in all, I wasn't all that bothered to know he was leaving in the summer.

As with a lot of things in life though, it's only now dawning on me that he's gone and it's highly unlikely we'll have someone of his calibre for long enough again.

bren2001

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Where's Futureguy?

Can we start,

'LVG is not going to be announced as manager'

Leave Futureguy to do his business. Kroos is more important.

Mitch Connor

Schwiiing wrote: »

Assuming Van Gaal is the new manager, which of the dutch squad could he persuade to move to Utd? Blind Depay and Veltman would be good signings in necessary areas.

I would say Strootman would be his big target - loves that guy, and would be a fantastic signing for United.

Whether he could be prised from Roma after just one season which he didn't even complete due to the injury he is still out with, is another matter - logic would say no chance but I do think the club are looking at it and I reckon Strootman would be interested. Simon Mullock has been writing about Strootman being a genuine target, and I have been told by others that he has good contacts in the Strootman camp, that he is one journo to listen to re. Strootman.

I reckon Strootman is the reason talk of Carvalho has gone quiet/dead.

TheDoc

On the LVG stuff, reading some guys saying that the supposed "Giggs and LVG" meetup today, makes actually zero logistical sense and it's unlikely that is true.

Strootman being a target would be sensational stuff. I might finally have closure on the whole ordeal! . I'd imagine he could be secured at a slashed fee, heres hoping he can make a full recovery and hit the former heights.

If Strootman and Kroos came in the one window, my dick would literally explode.

TheDoc

A pic I put up here last summer

TheDoc

TheDoc wrote: »

If Strootman and Kroos came in the one window, my dick would literally explode.

No pun intended :pac:

TheDoc

manutd wrote: »

Sky Sports twitter saying The Louis van Gaal deal to Manchester United has fallen through.

I see nothing on mine, sure it was the real account?

@SkySportsNews

2moreMinutes

manutd wrote: »

Sky Sports twitter saying The Louis van Gaal deal to Manchester United has fallen through.

I'm not seeing that?

Edit: surprise, surprise. TheDoc beats me in a type a fast response competition!

redbaron_99

manutd wrote: »

Sky Sports twitter saying The Louis van Gaal deal to Manchester United has fallen through.

Not on any official sky accounts, it's not.

Blatter

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Whether he could be prised from Roma after just one season which he didn't even complete due to the injury he is still out with, is another matter - logic would say no chance

Strootman, just like pretty much every other player in Italy, has a price.

Roma in particular would sell if they got a good offer. IIRC they pushed Lamela out the door because the fee from Spurs was too good to turn down.

The issue would be his injury and the chances of him making a full recovery from it. Van Gaal would have access to his medical reports, if he's recovering very well he could go for him in the Summer.

Mitch Connor

TheDoc wrote: »

On the LVG stuff, reading some guys saying that the supposed "Giggs and LVG" meetup today, makes actually zero logistical sense and it's unlikely that is true.
.

Why?

The dutch national team have bee given a day off by LVG today, and the reports are Woodward and Giggs flew to Holland this morning. The flight time is quicker than a trip by car from Manchester to London, as far as I know.

Why does it make no logistical sense?

lordgoat

Blatter wrote: »

Strootman, just like pretty much every other player in Italy, has a price.

Roma in particular would sell if they got a good offer. IIRC they pushed Lamela out the door because the fee from Spurs was too good to turn down.

The issue would be his injury and the chances of him making a full recovery from it. Van Gaal would have access to his medical reports, if he's recovering very well he could go for him in the Summer.

Translates as, Spurs were spectacularly generous with the amount of money they were willing to pay for him. Roma could not believe their luck and cashed in.

mike65

manutd wrote: »

Sky Sports twitter saying The Louis van Gaal deal to Manchester United has fallen through.

"@SkyFootballI: BREAKING: The Louis van Gaal deal to Manchester United has fallen through.

relax

RobertKK

Blatter wrote: »

Strootman, just like pretty much every other player in Italy, has a price.

Roma in particular would sell if they got a good offer. IIRC they pushed Lamela out the door because the fee from Spurs was too good to turn down.

The issue would be his injury and the chances of him making a full recovery from it. Van Gaal would have access to his medical reports, if he's recovering very well he could go for him in the Summer.

I read last week that August is when Strootman is expected to make a return from his injury.

manutd

mike65 wrote: »

relax

sorry seen it retweet and it didn't look at the name, just the logo, my fault.

Will I Amnt

LOL. " The Louis van Gaal deal to Manchester United"
Even the wording of it is a giveaway.

TheDoc

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Why?

The dutch national team have bee given a day off by LVG today, and the reports are Woodward and Giggs flew to Holland this morning. The flight time is quicker than a trip by car from Manchester to London, as far as I know.

Why does it make no logistical sense?

Apologies in advance, my geography knowledge on the Netherlands isn't up to scratch

Think it was Jamie Jackson saying he doesn't understand the stories about the meetup today, as Van Gaal can't get to the reported meeting destination.

Hold on one sec I'll find the tweet

EDIT : The tweet(dont open twitter on my work mahcine so cant copy paste)

"Van Gaal lives in Noordwijk, a bit from Schiphol(and Holland training camp), but he couldn't meet Giggs there, could he...

Mitch Connor

TheDoc wrote: »

Apologies in advance, my geography knowledge on the Netherlands isn't up to scratch

Think it was Jamie Jackson saying he doesn't understand the stories about the meetup today, as Van Gaal can't get to the reported meeting destination.

Hold on one sec I'll find the tweet

EDIT : The tweet(dont open twitter on my work mahcine so cant copy paste)

The location of the meeting hasn't been reported anywhere I have seen.

Considering Jackson is the person that wrote the article yesterday in the Guardian saying they were meeting today I'm confused as to his confusion.

Also, the camp is in Hoenderloo, which is 1 hour 30 mins from Noordwijk by car.

In fact... Schiphol is 22mins from Noordwijk

Agro Head

TheDoc wrote: »

Apologies in advance, my geography knowledge on the Netherlands isn't up to scratch

Think it was Jamie Jackson saying he doesn't understand the stories about the meetup today, as Van Gaal can't get to the reported meeting destination.

Hold on one sec I'll find the tweet

EDIT : The tweet(dont open twitter on my work mahcine so cant copy paste)

Tweet is clearly alluding to a meeting not denying it.

homerjay2005

Mitch Connor wrote: »

In fact... Schiphol is 22mins from Noordwijk

and whats that in Ed Woodward time, given he left Sydney last summer and didnt appear for 5 weeks?

TheDoc

Ow my bad, makes sense now I guess, I thought he was questioning how it could take place.

Carry on so!

TheDoc

homerjay2005 wrote: »

and whats that in Ed Woodward time, given he left Sydney last summer and didnt appear for 5 weeks?

At this point I'm just waiting for you to pin the banking collapse on Woodward :rolleyes:

KH25

homerjay2005 wrote: »

and whats that in Ed Woodward time, given he left Sydney last summer and didnt appear for 5 weeks?

Im still not sure he ever came back. I think they've been using a cardboard cut out since.

brinty

TheDoc wrote: »

At this point I'm just waiting for you to pin the banking collapse on Woodward :rolleyes:

it was his fault i tells ye...
sure he worked for Lehmann brothers didn't he....
He went out the door in 2003 and never told me
................then reappeared at United

SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKY

homerjay2005

TheDoc wrote: »

At this point I'm just waiting for you to pin the banking collapse on Woodward :rolleyes:

no doubt he had some part to play in there somewhere :cool:

keeponhurling

TheDoc wrote: »

At this point I'm just waiting for you to pin the banking collapse on Woodward :rolleyes:

Woodward hasn't been great, and I do long for the days of Nick Humby when United could sign the best players
Pass me my jigsaw ....

www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00H2UDWSS/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/278-9229393-6061159

Deiseboy01

How do people find these things?!!

KH25

Deiseboy01 wrote: »

How do people find these things?!!

You can find pretty much anything on the internet.

Deiseboy01

KH25 wrote: »

You can find pretty much anything on the internet.

Mr. Humbly looks like a very nice man.

I wouldn't think he'd shout at you or beat you up at all. Not like my daddy.

I wonder if I could live at Mr. Humby's house?

TheTownie

Pretty cool gif.

2moreMinutes

TheTownie wrote: »

Pretty cool gif.

Mesmerising isn't a word I get to use all that much but I reckon this is a good time for it.

Lads, what is Rob Beasley's reputation as a journo? He is shopping a big announcement re Manchester United for tonight around 10pm, apparently "big managerial news"...

https://twitter.com/1RobBeasley

Professional Griefer

Looks very silly just uploading pictures of him and players trying to attract some attention. He most likely knows nothing and wants followers.

Reedsie

BBC have said that Giggs is meeting van Gaal today in the Netherlands. BBC are as solid as a rock.

homerjay2005

stankratz wrote: »

Lads, what is Rob Beasley's reputation as a journo? He is shopping a big announcement re Manchester United for tonight around 10pm, apparently "big managerial news"...

https://twitter.com/1RobBeasley

first off he said standby for news a few hours ago, now he is saying possibly midnight.

sounds like its not actually going to be anything apart from an article in a paper.

KH25

Sure what managerial news is there? All signs point to Van Gaal being the manager, just not officially announced yet.

Reedsie

stankratz wrote: »

Lads, what is Rob Beasley's reputation as a journo? He is shopping a big announcement re Manchester United for tonight around 10pm, apparently "big managerial news"...

https://twitter.com/1RobBeasley

He claimed a few days ago that United were after Jose. Make of that what you will.

He comes across as an awful attention seeker.


Let's be honest he's not going to have the breaking news on this.

Professional Griefer

Professional Griefer wrote: »

Looks very silly just uploading pictures of him and players trying to attract some attention. He most likely knows nothing and wants followers.

Or no more than every other journalist might know by 10pm tonight...hopefully! Have to say I'm starting to get a little nervous over the lack of a manager.

The optimistic part of me would like to think that LVG has been in place for a week or 2 now and pulling the strings re transfers and departures. A good point was made in this thread that perhaps they want to get rid of some players before LVG is officially announced, that way he won't be blamed for cutting the likes of Rio, Evra and whoever else. If that is the case, it would be a rare stroke of genius from the higher-ups.

As someone who initially didn't have LVG as first choice for the job, I want him more than anyone else now. Klopp will come someday in the future if it's meant to be. LVG is the man we need now to settle the ship and replace some broken sails with shiny new ones. His demeanor is perfect for the job. Hope we don't fúck it up by waiting for managers who we definitely won't get this season i.e. Pep and Carlo.