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adox

bangkok wrote: »

why would it be much higher than 30m?? 30m is a huge amount for a player unproven in the premier league...

30 million euro, which is about 24 million pounds sterling. That for one of the most highly regarded midfielders in the game today would be a steal.

adox

TheTownie wrote: »

De Telegraaf saying Frans Hoek will be the goalkeeper coach and Max Reckers the video analyst.

I hope he joins just for the name alone.


Fantastic.

spiralism

zorro2566 wrote: »

Fergie still pulling strings then,hope he backs off when LVG is installed!

Needs to be careful there too. Barca went over his head years ago and signed Riquelme, who he immediately decided "wasn't his player", didnt use and ended up getting rid of him.

NTMK

redbaron_99 wrote: »

He's just undergone surgery on his knee, so that could reduce the fee considerably.

it was meniscus surgery it only takes a few weeks to recover fully (less time than a hamstring) it wont harm his fee in the slightest

FourFourRED

Just loading up teletext page 220 to check if there is any news on Luke Shaw

RobertKK

Gazzetta dello Sport yesterday claimed it would be €40 million for Vidal.

Rubber_Soul

Aodhagan wrote: »

Just loading up teletext page 220 to check if there is any news on Luke Shaw

Man I miss those days...





Sportsmediaset is ****e anyway, unless it's coming from DiMarzio in Italy I'd take it with a truckload of salt. Pure speculation based on a photo of Fergie and Conte at the match imo, no different than how he was apparently sorting the Kroos deal the other week just because he was sat by someone that remotely resembled his agent.

No doubt the usuals will be on decrying the club as pathetic for lowballing the imaginary offer soon enough though.

FourFourRED

keane2097

bangkok wrote: »

why would it be much higher than 30m?? 30m is a huge amount for a player unproven in the premier league...

Is this for serious? About Arturo Vidal?

bangkok

vidal is nearly 27, just had knee surgery never played in the premier league.....

aquilani was a big move from roma 20m and was awful

veron 28m from Lazio was also awful...

I wouldn't be saying many players are "world class" from Italian football until I seen them in a stronger league.

even kaka excelled in Italy but never really cut in at real madrid

redbaron_99

NTMK wrote: »

it was meniscus surgery it only takes a few weeks to recover fully (less time than a hamstring) it wont harm his fee in the slightest

My bad. Thought he was out for a couple of months.

bren2001

bangkok wrote: »

vidal is nearly 27, just had knee surgery never played in the premier league.....

aquilani was a big move from roma 20m and was awful

veron 28m from Lazio was also awful...

I wouldn't be saying many players are "world class" from Italian football until I seen them in a stronger league.

even kaka excelled in Italy but never really cut in at real madrid

You're right. Reus at CM would be a safer option. Should go all out.

Sheepy99

Ye hardly think ye're getting him & Shaw lads? Chelsea are after both too apparently, I couldn't see ye getting both ahead of them just in terms of fees paid and the whole no Europe debacle.

If ye were to get one i'd say Chelsea would go all out for the other.

The_Kew_Tour

Juve lads I know pretty much said that 30-35 million offer would be considered by Juve if its true.

even Juve lads I know on twitter seem to think it has legs.

I guess time will tell.

bangkok

bren2001 wrote: »

You're right. Reus at CM would be a safer option. Should go all out.

yea good answer

glued

keane2097 wrote: »

Is this for serious? About Arturo Vidal?

Vidal is the kind of player that you sell a kidney for. There is no chance that he signs for United though.

bangkok

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Juve lads I know pretty much said that 30-35 million offer would be considered by Juve if its true.

even Juve lads I know on twitter seem to think it has legs.

I guess time will tell.

know people in turin and they said they wouldn't expect any more than 35m for him. talk of pogba maybe 40-45 but that mainly due to age difference and potential. I don't know what people expect like he is not a Ronaldo or a bale or suarez and go for 50m plus.

The_Kew_Tour

bangkok wrote: »

know people in turin and they said they wouldn't expect any more than 35m for him. talk of pogba maybe 40-45 but that mainly due to age difference and potential. I don't know what people expect like he is not a Ronaldo or a bale or suarez and go for 50m plus.

ya I know 3 Juve fans well one my best mates Italian fan livibg in Dublin. he was telling me that if Juve got 35 million be fair chance Juve will consider.

FourFourRED

Sheepy99 wrote: »

Ye hardly think ye're getting him & Shaw lads? Chelsea are after both too apparently, I couldn't see ye getting both ahead of them just in terms of fees paid and the whole no Europe debacle.

If ye were to get one i'd say Chelsea would go all out for the other.

Don't think Shaw will be going to Chelsea.

Rayne Wooney

He's phenomenal, I wouldn't care what was paid for him if it meant him bossing the premier league in a United shirt next season

Fantasy signing

Rubber_Soul

bangkok wrote: »

know people in turin and they said they wouldn't expect any more than 35m for him.

Are these the same people that told you that Conte and Fergie were trying to sort out a transfer for an out of contract Evra last night?


No other reasons for Kaka failing at Real then no? The knee injuries that plagued him had nothing whatsover to do with it?

Comparing Vidal to Aquilani? Christ!

gandroid

Pro. F wrote: »

It wasn't big money, but neither was it small money. People are holding him up as an example of a player bought cheap. I don't think £1.2m was cheap at that time.

I disagree. It was cheap relatively speaking and it certainly wasn't "very big money".

redbaron_99

redbaron_99 wrote: »

30M euro is around 25M pounds.. Less than Shaw or Lallana... Arturo Vidal...

We paid something similar for Rooney when he was 18,ten year ago!

TheDoc

That's two midfielders we are assuming will recover from serious enough injuries and be able to not only capture their previous form, but in a new team and league, hmmm

More I'm reading about Van Gaal more I'm excited to see United play a 4-3-3, fo realz

Agueroooo

Blatter wrote: »

Woodword says he expects United's wage bill to increase by ~15% by next year due to incoming transfers.

That would be an increase of around £30m. Considering Vidic and Ferdinand are gone, Giggs and Evra are likely to leave along with a few other players - that's making an allowance for a lot of big money earners to join the club.

It might have something to do with Rooneys contract which doesn't kick in til the summer, and Mata's also not mentioning Fellani

Blatter wrote: »

Don't have a clue how reliable this italian media outlet is but they're claiming that SAF offered Conte €30-32m for Vidal last night.

Surely his fee would be much higher than that!

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/calcio/2014/articoli/1034883/ferguson-a-torino-ha-chiesto-vidal.shtml

I would say the starting price would be around £35 million with Barca having shown an interest if today's rumours are to believed.

I do think he will move this summer but.

bmcc10

bangkok wrote: »

know people in turin and they said they wouldn't expect any more than 35m for him. talk of pogba maybe 40-45 but that mainly due to age difference and potential. I don't know what people expect like he is not a Ronaldo or a bale or suarez and go for 50m plus.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you know nobody from Turin.

FourFourRED

Could you imagine if Moyes was still in charge. A) the players he would spunk the transfer kitty on & doing a presser openly discussing that we're interested in Vidal & making a tool of himself

*shudders*

bangkok

bmcc10 wrote: »

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you know nobody from Turin.

haha best reply ever....just because you know nobody from Italy you presume that I know nobody from Turin!!!

redbaron_99

zorro2566 wrote: »

We paid something similar for Rooney when he was 18,ten year ago!

What's your point...?

RobertKK

Keep in mind it was Gazzetta dello Sport which reported the news that Vidal could be leaving and that Pogba would be moving nowhere.

That is a good source, United need midfielders, Vidal is an obvious choice if available, United were also linked with Vidal in the January transfer window, but then it was he would not be moving.

This move has a real possibility, whether to United or elsewhere.

aperture_nuig

Aodhagan wrote: »

Could you imagine if Moyes was still in charge. A) the players he would spunk the transfer kitty on & doing a presser openly discussing that we're interested in Vidal & making a tool of himself

*shudders*

I dunno, that Mata chap doesn't look half bad

bangkok

StarshipPooper wrote: »

Are these the same people that told you that Conte and Fergie were trying to sort out a transfer for an out of contract Evra last night?


No other reasons for Kaka failing at Real then no? The knee injuries that plagued him had nothing whatsover to do with it?

Comparing Vidal to Aquilani? Christ!

well seeing as united have the right to offer evra a contract and therefore demand a transfer fee from Juventus they might have come to some agreement..

and you could have compared Veron to Vidal.... Veron at the time was probably in top 3 midfielders in European football

redbaron_99

Aodhagan wrote: »

Could you imagine if Moyes was still in charge. A) the players he would spunk the transfer kitty on & doing a presser openly discussing that we're interested in Vidal & making a tool of himself

*shudders*

I'm pretty sure moyes had a policy of not discussing potential targets.

The_Kew_Tour

has the interest for that CM chap from Portugal cooled off or what lads?

upstairs for coffee

MediaSet is owned by AC Milan owners

bangkok

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

has the interest for that CM chap from Portugal cooled off or what lads?

william carvalho?? no all the ground work has been done just with the new manager still not finalised and his transfer targets maybe different from last manager it is on hold but talk in Portugal now say Liverpool are ready to bid 30m for him

Delboy5

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

has the interest for that CM chap from Portugal cooled off or what lads?

Carvalho..........has supposedly cooled cos he was one of Moyes' targets......

Werent we strongly linked with a bid for Vidal in January, but juve wouldnt do business mid-season..........would be a dream signing for us!

spiralism

redbaron_99 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure moyes had a policy of not discussing potential targets.

Except for when he openly discussed Fabregas?

redbaron_99

spiralism wrote: »

Except for when he openly discussed Fabregas?

Did he?

Mitch Connor

Reckon we have switched targets from Carvalho to Strootman

homerjay2005

Van Gaal is going to be some laugh when he finally arrives, the media are going to be afraid of him as will the refs.


i sense/hope that the air of fear we have had under Fergie will return.

DubDani

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Van Gaal is going to be some laugh when he finally arrives, the media are going to be afraid of him as will the refs.


i sense/hope that the air of fear we have had under Fergie will return.

He is a very good coach, but the Problem with VG is that he has fallen out with key players wherever he went. His authoritarian style is not for everyone, and often crumble as soon as the results are not as expected.

Fun fact is that he requires authority even in his private life. His grown up daughters (35 & 37) still have to call him "Sir".

FourFourRED

redbaron_99 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure moyes had a policy of not discussing potential targets.

Fabregas?

kryogen

Aodhagan wrote: »

Fabregas?

He acknowledged an official bid had been made

His standard line was, "Manchester United are always interested in the very best players"

Blatter

Agueroooo wrote: »

It might have something to do with Rooneys contract which doesn't kick in til the summer, and Mata's also not mentioning Fellani

As I understand it, those deals have been included in todays meeting and the forescasted increase doesn't include them.

2moreMinutes

Aodhagan wrote: »

Could you imagine if Moyes was still in charge. A) the players he would spunk the transfer kitty on & doing a presser openly discussing that we're interested in Vidal & making a tool of himself

*shudders*

And there I was thinking the idiots had gone back into their shells for the time being....

Mars Bar

2moreMinutes wrote: »

And there I was thinking the idiots had gone back into their shells for the time being....

Keep it friendly please.

FatherTed

Aodhagan wrote: »

Could you imagine if Moyes was still in charge. A) the players he would spunk the transfer kitty on & doing a presser openly discussing that we're interested in Vidal & making a tool of himself

*shudders*

Be careful.... We haven't signed anybody yet.

FourFourRED

2moreMinutes wrote: »

And there I was thinking the idiots had gone back into their shells for the time being....

Yeah because what I said wasn't a valid point? The £27m on Fellaini was a big business mistake & the public talking of bids for a player who had no interest in joining was also silly, in my opinion. If you think that's me being an idiot then fine but I wouldn't agree with you.

Mitch Connor

Blatter wrote: »

As I understand it, those deals have been included in todays meeting and the forescasted increase doesn't include them.

it includes wage increases Januzaj and Nani would have got last summer/during the season - and the signings (and wages) of Mata and Fellaini. Rooney's deal was for the same base wage so doesn't account for any increase in wages.