Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

Mikeyt086

IrishIrish wrote: »

This is a genuine question...

Why do you think he has been picked for France world cup squad and will most likely be the starting left back? Must seem like a crazy decision for you if he's as bad as you seem to think.

I don't know why France have picked him. Presumably they still think he has something to offer the setup.

It does seem like a crazy decision to me, but thats not like the French national team at all, is it?

redbaron_99

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i think you should point the fingers at others before Evra for this game.

first goal the entire team went to sleep and Evra the LB is the only one that was actually trying to challenge the header in the center of defence - RB, CB and CB all went missing

2nd goal Vidic was beaten to the ball from a fairly innocuous cross that originally came from the right hand side again.

3rd goal deflected in off Vidic who stood off Robben and let him run. you could say Evra didnt challenge either but the ball literally travelled 70 yards straight to Robben and his run wasnt challenged by anybody.

its a but much to blame Evra when Vidic should be the first person you should be pointing fingers at.

Evra was poor for the goals in that game. Other players weren't good, but that doesn't change the fact that he was poor.

His challenge for the first goal was half hearted.
He was definitely at fault for the second. He stood off robben and allowed him time to pick out the ball for the goal.
Weak challenge for the third goal allowed robben to get run right at our centre backs.

redbaron_99

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Robbie fowler thinks van gaal is too old, and that we should have went for a young British manager.

Lol

A guy a work with (big Utd fan) thinks the same. Same chap wanted Martinez in last year and says he'd still like to see him there.


After Moyes it'd be too much of a risk tbf. Van Gaal should steer Utd back on the right track. Less risk involved. He'll also attract a higher quality of player.

redbaron_99

rarnes1 wrote: »

A guy a work with (big Utd fan) thinks the same. Same chap wanted Martinez in last year and says he'd still like to see him there.


After Moyes it'd be too much of a risk tbf. Van Gaal should steer Utd back on the right track. Less risk involved. He'll also attract a higher quality of player.

Martinez is a good manager. But the size f the united job and the pressure that goes with it could easily crush him.

Van gaal is perfect for it IMO

SeanJ09

Evra has been below par since the 2009 Champions League Final IMO.

glued

rarnes1 wrote: »

A guy a work with (big Utd fan) thinks the same. Same chap wanted Martinez in last year and says he'd still like to see him there.


After Moyes it'd be too much of a risk tbf. Van Gaal should steer Utd back on the right track. Less risk involved. He'll also attract a higher quality of player.

Fowler is just stirring shít along with a couple of ex-United players looking out for Giggs. Hiring Giggs as manager would be a disaster. Martinez has won an FA Cup. That's it. Sure Everton played some nice stuff this year but I'd rather see a manager sustain that rather than a one season wonder. Also it might be just me but I don't like Martinez. He just seems to whinge about every little decision. I don't really like him but I do admire his style.

van Gaal is the perfect fit for United. We need a strong leader now. We need to attract players and van Gaal is somebody who can do that. We need a winner. He's probably only going to be here for 3 years and in that time we should be in much better shape than we are now and the likes of Klopp, Guardiola etc. will be available again.

Ferguson didn't really do Moyes a whole lot of favours with the squad he left. We have no competent central midfielder. We have an ageing squad. We had poor competition for places. Yes, they won the Premiership but there was little talent coming through. There was a hundred reasons why this season was a disaster and sacking Moyes and moving on some of the elder statesmen solves a few of those problems.

Schwiiing

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Robbie fowler thinks van gaal is too old, and that we should have went for a young British manager.

Lol

Kenny Dalglish thinks we should have signed Steve Bruce as manager lol. :pac::D:eek::rolleyes:

Will I Amnt

Schwiiing wrote: »

Kenny Dalglish thinks we should have signed Steve Bruce as manager lol. :pac::D:eek::rolleyes:

The rest of them think we should have kept Moyes :pac:

Hococop

some opening 20 minutes

sReq | uTeK

Blatter wrote: »

It's not very clear to me at all. Evans is good but overrated, Jones and Smalling have a higher ceiling than him IMO.

Couldn't disagree more, every time I've seen Phil Jones play he's liable to do something stupid and if he doesn't he normally injures himself.

Smalling for me is better than Jones but again he's suspect in half the games he's played, Evans for me is significantly better than the other 2. It's funny you call him overrated he was probably our best player playing the season we lost out on goals but before that came under stick every time he was named in the team

homerjay2005

Hernandez has apparently said he is staying on at the club now.

its a shame that Vidic didnt wait to see if Moyes would stay or not :mad:

beno619

Delighted for Atletico

Hococop

Fair play to atletico for holding on, nice to see new title holders after years of barca and real

IrishIrish

I heard one of the ex players on MUTV mention that they'd been talking to Vidic in the last week or so and asked him why he didn't stay at united. He told them that he really didn't want to leave but he wanted a 2 year deal and the club were only offering him a 1 year deal.

Might not be true either but from a better source than most!

irishfeen

beno619 wrote: »

Delighted for Atletico

Hopefully they can go one better next Saturday night too

Hococop

IrishIrish wrote: »

I heard one of the ex players on MUTV mention that they'd been talking to Vidic in the last week or so and asked him why he didn't stay at united. He told them that he really didn't want to leave but he wanted a 2 year deal and the club were only offering him a 1 year deal.

Might not be true either but from a better source than most!

Remember that rumor around this thread when it came out vidic was leaving so might be a bit of truth to it

irishfeen

One of the slowest United Superthreads days I have ever seen - sad to see that we're not involved at the business end of the season

homerjay2005

IrishIrish wrote: »

I heard one of the ex players on MUTV mention that they'd been talking to Vidic in the last week or so and asked him why he didn't stay at united. He told them that he really didn't want to leave but he wanted a 2 year deal and the club were only offering him a 1 year deal.

Might not be true either but from a better source than most!

its 100% true but its also clear something else is at play. all players over 32 get one year rolling contracts. it was good enough for Giggs, Rio, Scholes, Van Der Sar, Carrick but unfortunately not for Vidic.

he would probably have been offered contracts for at least another 3 years. cant see any reason that he didnt want to accept it from that sense.

people go on about "one big final pay day". Im not even sure he would be getting more at Inter than the huge salary he was on (120k) when he went and signed for Inter.

there were stories around (unconfirmed as such) that he just wasnt getting on with some of the players and his relationship with others was passed the untenable stage and this could be another if not the main reason for it. his interview with the guardian the last day while not confirming problems, confimed that there were fights so maybe there is some truth in it.

Will I Amnt

irishfeen wrote: »

One of the slowest United Superthreads days I have ever seen - sad to see that we're not involved at the business end of the season

Only Hull and Arsenal are today

Cantona's Collars

Any United representatives at the German Cup Final?

J. Marston

irishfeen wrote: »

One of the slowest United Superthreads days I have ever seen - sad to see that we're not involved at the business end of the season

Welbeck should be sold.

That should speed things up.

irishfeen

J. Marston wrote: »

Welbeck should be sold.

That should speed things up.

That's the spirit lad

irishfeen

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Only Hull and Arsenal are today

Aye but if were playing in the final or looking forward to a CL final this place would be buzzing.

IrishIrish

homerjay2005 wrote: »

its 100% true but its also clear something else is at play. all players over 32 get one year rolling contracts. it was good enough for Giggs, Rio, Scholes, Van Der Sar, Carrick but unfortunately not for Vidic.

he would probably have been offered contracts for at least another 3 years. cant see any reason that he didnt want to accept it from that sense.

people go on about "one big final pay day". Im not even sure he would be getting more at Inter than the huge salary he was on (120k) when he went and signed for Inter.

there were stories around (unconfirmed as such) that he just wasnt getting on with some of the players and his relationship with others was passed the untenable stage and this could be another if not the main reason for it. his interview with the guardian the last day while not confirming problems, confimed that there were fights so maybe there is some truth in it.

The ex player also mentioned that Vidic had told him he felt his 'role had changed', but didn't go in to more detail on what exactly that ment.

irishfeen

In relation to Kroos to United - what result do we want from the German Cup Final? Easy Bayern win?

Cantona's Collars

irishfeen wrote: »

In relation to Kroos to United - what result do we want from the German Cup Final? Easy Bayern win?

Pep to take him off at half time,Kroos to throw his shirt at him & put on a United one before getting a cab to the airport.

Hococop

irishfeen wrote: »

In relation to Kroos to United - what result do we want from the German Cup Final? Easy Bayern win?

I think that's right if they have an easy win it looks good for pep and we may have a chance for kroos if they lose pep could go and it changes transfer targets

Hococop

zerks wrote: »

Pep to take him off at half time,Kroos to throw his shirt at him & put on a United one before getting a cab to the airport.

Add in a stone cold stunner

irishfeen

Hococop wrote: »

I think that's right if they have an easy win it looks good for pep and we may have a chance for kroos if they lose pep could go and it changes transfer targets

Yeah that's exactly my thinking - keeping Pep as manager is probably our only hope in getting the lad.

dahat

irishfeen wrote: »

In relation to Kroos to United - what result do we want from the German Cup Final? Easy Bayern win?

Sure he is only on loan there?

homerjay2005

irishfeen wrote: »

One of the slowest United Superthreads days I have ever seen - sad to see that we're not involved at the business end of the season

weve only played past the last day of the domestic season 3 times in the last 15 years! add in 3 CL finals and its 6 in 15 years.

irishfeen

homerjay2005 wrote: »

weve only played past the last day of the domestic season 3 times in the last 15 years! add in 3 CL finals and its 6 in 15 years.

Ya but your forgetting - our season has basically been over since the 9th April when we exited the CL...

In other matters, delighted for Wenger... maybe not as much of a specialist in failure anymore and even more credit to Hull and Steve Bruce for giving them a massive fright.

The_Kew_Tour

Jesus its 6 years since we won CL.

Time has flew by.

Glad for Arsenal tbh. I wanted Hull to win them being underdog but I have a lot of respect for Arsenal.

homerjay2005

Roy Keane :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

just there on ITV was asked if they ever thought of giving Sir Alex Ferguson the bumps just like Arsenal players were going to Fergie.

"Yeah we would like to throw him up but not catch him".

irishfeen

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Jesus its 6 years since we won CL.

Time has flew by.

Glad for Arsenal tbh. I wanted Hull to win them being underdog but I have a lot of respect for Arsenal.

Ah Moscow 2008 - one of the best footballing nights of my life - Good times

ShaneU

RVP scored

Cantona's Collars

Kagawa tells us what we all pretty much knew:

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2014/05/17/soccer/international-soccer/kagawa-eager-get-brazil/?#.U3e0qnbnExZ

The Brazil-bound midfielder said the troops at Old Trafford couldn’t wait for the June 12-July 13 tournament to begin with United’s campaign being sucked into a downward spiral that led to the dismissal of manager David Moyes.

United, Premier League champion the previous season under Alex Ferguson, finished seventh on the table, missing out on both the Champions and Europa Leagues. The Red Devils ended up 22 points behind new champion and crosstown rival Manchester City.

“Towards the end, everyone was just getting ready for the World Cup,” Kagawa said, looking back on a season in which he didn’t score a single goal. “That’s where everyone’s heart was by then. We were all trying to look forward.”

Son Of A Vidic

Hococop wrote: »

Add in a stone cold stunner

He must drink the can of beer first to get it started.

The_Kew_Tour

irishfeen wrote: »

Ah Moscow 2008 - one of the best footballing nights of my life - Good times

Some Hangover next morning.

I literally sat at my desk did no office work as my boss was away.

My voice was gone too. Ended up in Whelans on Camden Street. Watched it in temple bar lost friends met other friends and just got smashed.

I am almost certain I gave the taxi driver a nice tip even though I can't remember getting home or hearing my alarm go off for 40 minutes before I eventually got up.

I would do it all again.

Vic Vinegar

Couple of Italian papers saying we bid €50 million for Vidal. That would be more like it value wise if Fellaini is worth paying £27 million for.

ShaneU

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

Couple of Italian papers saying we bid €50 million for Vidal. That would be more like it value wise if Fellaini is worth paying €27 million for.

Fellaini cost €33.8m

irishfeen

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Some Hangover next morning.

I literally sat at my desk did no office work as my boss was away.

My voice was gone too. Ended up in Whelans on Camden Street. Watched it in temple bar lost friends met other friends and just got smashed.

I am almost certain I gave the taxi driver a nice tip even though I can't remember getting home or hearing my alarm go off for 40 minutes before I eventually got up.

I would do it all again.

I was only small (17) - it was leaving cert time and jaysus the younger Chelsea supporting brother got an awful doing god bless him - we went fcuking mad celebrating

Cantona's Collars

RVP's goal this evening:

http://gfycat.com/SereneAnotherInsect

billyhead

Anybody think their is truth behind the rumours of LVG wanting Robben and if so where exactly would he fit in? Also does anyone else think his best days are behind him?

irishfeen

Dortmund should be one up, looks like the ball was well behind the line and had a stonewall penalty denied... Watching the last 20min and its an awful match so far.

Will I Amnt

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

Couple of Italian papers saying we bid €50 million for Vidal. That would be more like it value wise if Fellaini is worth paying €27 million for.

Papers are going to be filled with a lot of bollox over the next few months.

I do really hope there's 3 or 4 absolutely massive, f*ck off signings.
There's a lot of piss ripping going on about what calibre of player United fans think they can get, you know they're secretly sh*tting themselves just in case... :pac:

ShaneU

billyhead wrote: »

Anybody think their is truth behind the rumours of LVG wanting Robben and if so where exactly would he fit in? Also does anyone else think his best days are behind him?

Right Wing in 4-3-3 and yeah probably but he's still class, and all our wingers have been terrible.

Cantona's Collars

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Some Hangover next morning.

I literally sat at my desk did no office work as my boss was away.

My voice was gone too. Ended up in Whelans on Camden Street. Watched it in temple bar lost friends met other friends and just got smashed.

I am almost certain I gave the taxi driver a nice tip even though I can't remember getting home or hearing my alarm go off for 40 minutes before I eventually got up.

I would do it all again.

Ha ha,

I was on baby watch as my missus was nearly due,planned on going out & not drinking.............ended up drunk as a Lord falling in the door at 4.30am.
Young lad wasn't born until a fortnight later.His first United kit is framed and hanging on his wall.

ElChe32

irishfeen wrote: »

Dortmund should be one up, looks like the ball was well behind the line and had a stonewall penalty denied... Watching the last 20min and its an awful match so far.

Yeah fairly poor stuff, Neuer is all over the shop..so glad we got DDG when we did. Ribery has done nothing..don't see the hype about him at all.

irishfeen

ElChe32 wrote: »

Yeah fairly poor stuff, Neuer is all over the shop..so glad we got DDG when we did. Ribery has done nothing..don't see the hype about him at all.

Kroos do anything or has everyone just been generally s.hite??