Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

Mitch Connor

Delighted it is finally announced.

Now where the feck are my signings! I kid, I kid.

Really looking forward to seeing what LVG does with the new signigns, and with the players that remain. Really REALLY looking forward to the new season now.

Amirani

bangkok wrote: »

def think we should try for fabregas again this summer.

Barca are even less likely to let him go now. Xavi has shown clear signs of decline, with Fabregas starting ahead of him on a number of notable occasions this season. Cesc is also their primary plan B when Messi isn't on form. I think United would be better off looking elsewhere.

Peanut Butter Jelly

Van Gaal announcced?...

redbaron_99

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Any word on Evra yet? I was away last week, did I miss anything?

Strongly linked to Juve

homerjay2005

MrMac84 wrote: »

So numbers 5 7 8 & 11 all free next season... Wonder who'll take them any thoughts??

and Evra going means up to 5 first 11 jerseys to be filled. that in essence sums up the big rebuild that is now needed.

who will take them? we hope its players of the calibre of Hummels, Shaw/Coentrau & Kroos but the number 7 is a huge mystery.

lets see who Van Gaal has lined up for it.

Blatter

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Barca are even less likely to let him go now. Xavi has shown clear signs of decline, with Fabregas starting ahead of him on a number of notable occasions this season. Cesc is also their primary plan B when Messi isn't on form. I think United would be better off looking elsewhere.

There seems to be a lot of talk out of Barcelona that they would sell Fabregas.

Logically, from the outside looking it, it wouldn't make much sense. However there is apparently something not right there.

bangkok

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Barca are even less likely to let him go now. Xavi has shown clear signs of decline, with Fabregas starting ahead of him on a number of notable occasions this season. Cesc is also their primary plan B when Messi isn't on form. I think United would be better off looking elsewhere.

fabregas is regularly booed by the home fans, they haven't taken to him and a lot of barca's problems are blamed on him (unfairly I might add) doesn't seem to have a regular position with them. he has a good resale value as well, he is def up from grabs

brinty

homerjay2005 wrote: »

and Evra going means up to 5 first 11 jerseys to be filled. that in essence sums up the big rebuild that is now needed.

who will take them? we hope its players of the calibre of Hummels, Shaw/Coentrau & Kroos but the number 7 is a huge mystery.

lets see who Van Gaal has lined up for it.

LukeShaw3
5 - Hummels
CR7 - has to be lads after he wins the UCL with real this saturday
9 - Cavani
11 - no one, it'll be retired as a mark of respct to Giggs
15 will be free too

If fabregas came in i could see jones moving to #5 and fabregas #4

Vic Vinegar

brinty wrote: »

LukeShaw3
5 - Hummels
CR7 - has to be lads after he wins the UCL with real this saturday
9 - Cavani
11 - no one, it'll be retired as a mark of respct to Giggs
15 will be free too

We're not retiring any jersey number.

Cavani has stated he's staying a PSG next season.

Mitch Connor

Blatter wrote: »

There seems to be a lot of talk out of Barcelona that they would sell Fabregas.

Logically, from the outside looking it, it wouldn't make much sense. However there is apparently something not right there.

The fans don't like him - haven't forgiven him for leaving, think he is lazy on the pitch too.

I reckon Barca would sell at the right price (FFP, their debt, wages and need to buy a few defenders contribute) and Fabregas will leave if Barcelona indicate they don't want him.

I reckon it is basically the same as last summer - neither would mind a parting of the ways, but neither want to be the one to publicly push for it. Which means, as it did last summer, if United want to buy him they will have to offer Barca a big whack of money - so Barca can say they couldn't turn the offer down.

ElChe32

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MrMac84 wrote: »

And most likely 3.
3 5 7 9 11 are a lot of first team numbers

Is Januzai too young for 7?

Mikeyt086

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Barca are even less likely to let him go now. Xavi has shown clear signs of decline, with Fabregas starting ahead of him on a number of notable occasions this season. Cesc is also their primary plan B when Messi isn't on form. I think United would be better off looking elsewhere.

http://www.marca.com/2014/05/19/en/football/barcelona/1400488431.html

brinty

MrMac84 wrote: »

Is Januzai too young for 7?

Ronaldo took it over at 18/19 from David Beckham, no reason he couldn't but i wouldn't burden him with the kind of pressure, unless he absolutely storms the world cup.

I think #7 will go to the big name signing of the summer whomever that may be..I'm not going to speculate or bull***t on who it might be...CR7 would be welcomed with open arms though

ericzeking

Januzaj to take either 7 or 11 and for it to be the making of him.

It'd gonna be so weird seeing anyone other than Giggs in 11, he's about the only player left from the non squad number days, like the rest of the class of 92 all wore twenty odd on their backs at the start. It's as close to a case for retiring a number as you will get.

Happy with Van Gaal announcement,seems to be a right character, I can't wait to see what he does with his 433 and how he moulds our players, and what he can do with players who at first glance don't appear to fit the system, he seems like the type who could inspire a guy to do something he previously wasn't capable of. It will be great to see us dominate possession against better sides, something even Fergie couldn't do an awful lot of the time.

The fact it was announced signals to me that signings must be imminent, you'd want a manager in place for any sort of high profile incoming.

jonnyfingers

Seems like we've been linked with all these players. That being said a potential team with all the rumored signings would probably play like a Kevin Keegan team, win or lose 4-3 every game!

De Gea
Rafael---Hummels---Evans---Shaw
Kroos
Mata

---

Fabregas
CR7---RVP---Robben

Subs: Sagna, Kagawa, Strootman, Muller, Cavani, Reus, Smalling, Jones

Edit: RVP in, Rooney shoved out the door by LVG

Amirani

Giggs' 10 greatest goals: http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2011/mar/01/ryan-giggs-ten-best-goals

bangkok

jonnyfingers wrote: »

Seems like we've been linked with all these players. That being said a potential team with all the rumored signings would probably play like a Kevin Keegan team, win or lose 4-3 every game!

De Gea
Rafael---Hummels---Evans---Shaw
Kroos
Mata

---

Fabregas
CR7---Rooney---Robben

Subs: Sagna, Robben, Strootman, Muller, Cavani, Reus, Smalling, Jones

you forgot our new captain RVP.....

Rayne Wooney

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Someone should write a big ghey poem.

The little horse had faltered
And the gunner's implosion left them lame,
The scousers claimed they were back,
Slipping back into the top 4, their second place trophy they did reclaim

The noisy neighbours triumphed,
And the chosen one took the blame
But the most successful club in England,
United by stance and by name
Will soon again be victorious
The beginning of Aloysius van Gaal's Oranje reign

jonnyfingers

bangkok wrote: »

you forgot our new captain RVP.....

So I did! It's madness, madness I tell ya!!!

BKtje

Have stuck that poem up on facebook (credited alchemist33 though of course)

tallaghtmick

jonnyfingers wrote: »

Seems like we've been linked with all these players. That being said a potential team with all the rumored signings would probably play like a Kevin Keegan team, win or lose 4-3 every game!

De Gea
Rafael---Hummels---Evans---Shaw
Kroos
Mata

---

Fabregas
CR7---Rooney---Robben

Subs: Sagna, Robben, Strootman, Muller, Cavani, Reus, Smalling, Jones

He got a unheard of brother?

jonnyfingers

tallaghtmick wrote: »

He got a unheard of brother?

This is why I don't usually post team selections!

gracehopper

tallaghtmick wrote: »

He got a unheard of brother?

no thats mark robins i think

Son Of A Vidic

Touched base to check the news on LVG and HALLELUJAH it's done....

tallaghtmick

Since the announcement of our new Manager my facebook has been extremely quiet.....



They've gone back into hiding

Reedsie

The old saying went that the best job in football would be the man who follows Fergie's successor. Louis van Gaal it is.
He'll be entertaining. He's a winner. He'll get United back challenging. He looks a decent appointment to me.

castletownman

I was just thinking how different last season may have been had Giggs announced he was retiring at the start of it. It may have had a similar effect that BOD's farewell had with Ireland.

Although, I have been known to bemoan the rugby media portraying every match as O'Driscoll's farewell (he's had about half a dozen this year!) so given the all-encompassing world of Sky's coverage, it may have grown wearisome by the end of September

tallaghtmick

jonnyfingers

Hoek would have trained Van Der Sar at once stage. Don't know much about Bout.

Reedsie

Any predictions of league positions for the duration of his 3 year contract?

I'd have to guess 3-3-3.

brinty

Paddy_R wrote: »

Any predictions of league positions for the duration of his 3 year contract?

I'd have to guess 3-3-3.

paddy it'll be 1-1-1

C'mon lads optimism
#theirontulip has landed

Maximus Alexander

Paddy_R wrote: »

Any predictions of league positions for the duration of his 3 year contract?

I'd have to guess 3-3-3.

I'm going with 4-2-1.

Edit: I'm adding the words 'league positions' to this post so that I can find it in three years if I'm right and say "Hey guys, I'm a genius!"
Obviously I'll mysteriously forget all about it if I'm wrong.

FutureGuy

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I'm going with 4-2-1.

3-1-1

Vic Vinegar

Paddy_R wrote: »

Any predictions of league positions for the duration of his 3 year contract?

I'd have to guess 3-3-3.

1-15-1

homerjay2005

tallaghtmick wrote: »

makes you ill to compare it to the lads that were there last year.

Round and Jimmy must be two of the luckiest men alive.

ericzeking

With our resources and with no Champions league to distract we should really be there or thereabouts at the sharp end next season.

We can even make a proper run at the FA Cup, it'd be nice to win it again. Back to the basics of League and Cup.

TheDoc

A league victory in three years would be pretty incredible work. When you factor in not only the work that needs doing on our squad, but the no doubt improvement that will take place at rivals.

But I do think he can do a serious job.

Predictions can make everyone look silly, but I think we have a good chance with LVG at the helm to get back into the top 4 immediately.

Depends on summer transfers really. I think we will still fall short of City and Chelsea as of now. I don't think Liverpool will be sustaaining a challenge next year.

I think we will find ourselves jossling with Arsenal.

Im_No_Superman

Are Scholesy and Butt out on thier ear now?

Would have been nice if they were kept as part of the youth team coaching staff even.

Peanut Butter Jelly

Butt is involved with the U-21's. I don't know about Scholes.

Reedsie

brinty wrote: »

paddy it'll be 1-1-1

C'mon lads optimism
#theirontulip has landed

Haha. It ill be hard to topple City and Chelsea I reckon. But a lot depends on transfers of course. And more so on how Van Gaal gets on. Despite all his success he had Barcelona 3pts off relegation in the January he was sacked. He can be quite inconsistent.


Actually I should have added the question how do people think he'll eventually part ways with the club?

- His last club job he was sacked due to poor position.
- With AZ he left successful (although he had to be persuaded to stay on prior to that year after finishing a lowly 11th).
- He left Ajaz due to an internal conflict.
- Previous to that he was sacked at Barcelona when having them just 3pts off relegation in January.
- In his first stint at Barcelona he was somewhat forced out following extreme media criticism (and losing the title).
- At Ajax he could do no wrong and left successfully having served his contract.

I'll go for sacking due to poor results. There's very few go any other way these days.



But anyway, onwards!!

adox

Paddy_R wrote: »

Any predictions of league positions for the duration of his 3 year contract?

I'd have to guess 3-3-3.

Has to be 4-3-3 :pac:

Maximus Alexander

Paddy_R wrote: »

Haha. It ill be hard to topple City and Chelsea I reckon. But a lot depends on transfers of course. And more so on how Van Gaal gets on. Despite all his success he had Barcelona 3pts off relegation in the January he was sacked. He can be quite inconsistent.


Actually I should have added the question how do people think he'll eventually part ways with the club?

- His last club job he was sacked due to poor position.
- With AZ he left successful (although he had to be persuaded to stay on prior to that year after finishing a lowly 11th).
- He left Ajaz due to an internal conflict.
- Previous to that he was sacked at Barcelona when having them just 3pts off relegation in January.
- In his first stint at Barcelona he was somewhat forced out following extreme media criticism (and losing the title).
- At Ajax he could do no wrong and left successfully having served his contract.

I'll go for sacking due to poor results. There's very few go any other way these days.



But anyway, onwards!!

Eugh... I'm putting a second guess into the hat to save face so.

11 - sacked - sacked ಠ_ಠ

Hococop

RobertKK wrote: »

There is going to be no banner for Van Gaal after the disastrous chosen one.

And if one is put up he will personally tear it down himself

brinty

next season
Citeh can't spend massive money on new players and strengthen or they'll breach FFP so need to consolidate and i think they might be aiming at UCL
Liverpool will have to compete on 2 fronts and need to reinforce their whole squad in every line, could be hard pressed to replicate this season
Chelsea will the jose honeymoon last if he doesn't get his way this summer.. too much disharmony there with players
Arsenal still need a few players but will push up...
Everton unless they get loan players in to do a similar job will fall
Spurs have to sort themselves out

United have 38 league games and maybe 2-10 games in the cups depending their progress. If LvG could even get 3-5 new players in to strengthen up defence/midfield and win a league title/ finish second next season and add 3/4 more quality signings next summer theres no reason we couldn't be pushing on in europe in 2015/2016.
2014/15 aim to win the league and implement the new 4-3-3 system
2015/16 win the league and qf/sf of UCL
2016/17 retain the league and win the UCL
those are some acheivable goals which could be set out

Utopia Parkway

brinty wrote: »

next season
Citeh can't spend massive money on new players and strengthen or they'll breach FFP so need to consolidate and i think they might be aiming at UCL
Liverpool will have to compete on 2 fronts and need to reinforce their whole squad in every line, could be hard pressed to replicate this season
Chelsea will the jose honeymoon last if he doesn't get his way this summer.. too much disharmony there with players
Arsenal still need a few players but will push up...
Everton unless they get loan players in to do a similar job will fall
Spurs have to sort themselves out

United have 38 league games and maybe 2-10 games in the cups depending their progress. If LvG could even get 3-5 new players in to strengthen up defence/midfield and win a league title/ finish second next season and add 3/4 more quality signings next summer theres no reason we couldn't be pushing on in europe in 2015/2016.
2014/15 aim to win the league and implement the new 4-3-3 system
2015/16 win the league and qf/sf of UCL
2016/17 retain the league and win the UCL
those are some acheivable goals which could be set out

Sounds easy when you put it like that.

LuckyLloyd

brinty wrote: »

next season
Citeh can't spend massive money on new players and strengthen or they'll breach FFP so need to consolidate and i think they might be aiming at UCL
Liverpool will have to compete on 2 fronts and need to reinforce their whole squad in every line, could be hard pressed to replicate this season
Chelsea will the jose honeymoon last if he doesn't get his way this summer.. too much disharmony there with players
Arsenal still need a few players but will push up...
Everton unless they get loan players in to do a similar job will fall
Spurs have to sort themselves out

United have 38 league games and maybe 2-10 games in the cups depending their progress. If LvG could even get 3-5 new players in to strengthen up defence/midfield and win a league title/ finish second next season and add 3/4 more quality signings next summer theres no reason we couldn't be pushing on in europe in 2015/2016.
2014/15 aim to win the league and implement the new 4-3-3 system
2015/16 win the league and qf/sf of UCL
2016/17 retain the league and win the UCL
those are some acheivable goals which could be set out

So basically he will have been a disappointment if he doesn't turn Utd into the best club in the world within three years of their worst season in the Premier League era? No pressure now, yikes.

Quandary

Next season will definitely not be boring for Utd with LVG at the helm.

I can't wait!

RichFTW

Paddy_R wrote: »

Any predictions of league positions for the duration of his 3 year contract?

I'd have to guess 3-3-3.

I'm going to go 4-2/1-1.

That's based on on getting the defence and CM position sorted out which is most definitely possible in a season given United's budget. Our attack is already stacked with talent and hopefully LVG is the man to get the best out of them.

Also assuming we don't sell any players to our rivals...you know Sunderland, West Ham & the other 17 teams. :pac:

Lord TSC

Stretford End Flags
The Moyes banner was made to show support for the new manager, as was the call by Fergie. The next manager will not have a banner made #mufc

Don't know if they are being snotty about the people who were frustrated with their old flag or what, but think it's stupid to say "No new manager banner". The problem wasn't with having a banner with Moyes on it; it was not knowing when to take it down and avoid a PR disaster for the group. I'd love to see King Louis banners up next season....

EDIT: Meanwhile, LvG's first four games will be LA Galaxy, Roma, Inter and Real. Exciting.