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NoviGlitzko

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

**** Robben. I hate him. Want him no-where near the club.

There no denying his quality in fairness. I certainly wouldn't complain getting him at the peak of his career. Even just for 2 - 3 years.

He could aid in development of our younger talent like Adnan who still needs guidance, coupled with Van Gaal's instruction.

bucketybuck

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Rooney to Cm seems a logical move to accommodate Mata & Rvp

The logical move would be to sell Rooney and invest in some proper midfielders.

Antibac

Anyone know if VanGaal done a presser today? Just heard there on the radio he told media that he has given Utd his transfer targets and who he wants out by the time he starts after the World Cup.

bangkok

I hate robben, I also hate Suarez but I would love if they both played for united...

Lucas Hood

Antibac wrote: »

Anyone know if VanGaal done a presser today? Just heard there on the radio he told media that he has given Utd his transfer targets and who he wants out by the time he starts after the World Cup.

Yesterday.
http://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/25zmbf/transcript_of_van_gaal_interview_on_rtl_late/

redbaron_99

M!Ck^ wrote: »

There no denying his quality in fairness. I certainly wouldn't complain getting him at the peak of his career. Even just for 2 - 3 years.

He could aid in development of our younger talent like Adnan who still needs guidance, coupled with Van Gaal's instruction.

We already have one of the greatest ever wingers as assistant manager to guide adnan.

alchemist33

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

The team is severely lacking in leaders right now; we're in a position where we will need some holder heads with experience coming in, as well as youth for the future.

Robben would be a class player who the new manager knows well, would improve a position we're weak in and would be a name signing that would boost morale. He'd be a great short term signing, allowing the likes of Lawerence and Januzaj another year or two to mature, and learn from one of the best.

I hate, hate, HATE his smug face, but there's no denying he wouldn't be a brilliant signing for us.

But Robben isn't a leader. He's not going to motivate others or drag us out of a hole. I really don't want him at the club.

Cantona's Collars

Nice to see LVG wanting the signings done asap,none of the 20 scouting missions & end up with Fellaini which happened last Summer."Dithering Dave" is no more.
A good deal or two done early could save us tens of millions if players targeted have a good WC.Prices will skyrocket for those who shine in Brazil.

UnitedIrishman

adox wrote: »

That Giggs thread is ****ing awful.
Gives a huge insight in to some posters, if it wasnt needed already.

Great indication of who to put on the ignore list!

The more I look at Van Gaal coming in and some of the young talent we have, it couldn't be more perfectly timed. In terms of youngsters that we have that he can nurture and improve, the majority of our squad is 26 and under. Our options coming from the youths and reserves have massive potential - Wilson had a brilliant season at underage, Henriquez is coming back from a spell at Zaragoza, Lingard looked excellent on loan at Brighton, Welbeck may be 23 but he's only had 2-3 seasons of first team football with United, Varela and Janko will have the chance to break into the squad next season too.

Whilst it is exciting to think of the transfers we're going to make, it's nearly more exciting to see how these guys progress in the coming seasons.

ericzeking

I don't see Nani out as the certainty some others do, I could see him reinvigourated playing the 433 in the Robben position, from the right. Some are going to have to step up or adapt to fit his system, Rooney could find himself wide again.
One or two also mentioned Kagawa for the door, doesn't LVG play a 'true number 10' as one of his midfield 3, alternating Sneijder and Van der vaart for Holland in the past? I could see a similar situation with Mata and Kagawa.

The box to box or all round dictating midfielder that he plays then would be a real big one for the market, a Cesc or Kroos would be ideal. Unpopular as it may be to say I could see LVG making a job of Cleverley in the this role as back up. This leaves the defensive midfield position, we'd have Carrick and Fellaini for this position, a new signing would be nice but not essential, particularly if Fellaini can find his feet.

We'll obviously need defenders, at least one top level centre half and a left back. I'd like a right back too.

I'm thinking we won't see quite as many signings as we all might think, alot of that is based on the shot in the arm some players may get from the new regime.

ericzeking

Antibac wrote: »

Anyone know if VanGaal done a presser today? Just heard there on the radio he told media that he has given Utd his transfer targets and who he wants out by the time he starts after the World Cup.

It'd make you wonder how long he has known he had the job if he has already formulated an opinion on say the United fringe players...I know managers keep their eye in with the talent about but he must have been watching United closely for quite a while if the above is to be believed....

Crimson King

homerjay2005 wrote: »

is there?

the max we will take in this summer is about £20million and thats for Nani, Anderson and bebe...and thats even stretching it based on the numbers going around.

Macheda, Giggs, Rio, Vidic & Evra are all out of contract so not worth anything.

to hit £50million you'd need the likes of Hernandez, Young/Valencia and Kagawa leaving along with the players above.

Had a look at this situation myself and came up with something like this:

Out.
Rio, Vidic & Patrice all equal £0 in funds but free up £240-260k a week in wages

Bebe, Fletcher & Young can be released with very little funds coming in (maybe £5M but to encourage bidders for Young low fees will have to be accepted as he is on monster wages) but another £180-190K a week freed up on wages.

Then if the supposed budget of £100-£150M is there then this could be spent on a few 'star' players and a few younger players.

IN
For example
Kroos -£35M & £200K a week wages
Carvello £35M & £100K+ a week wages
Hummels £20M & £100K a week wages
Shaw £30M & £100k a week wages

These figures are open to debate but I reckon with about £120M spent and an extra £80K a week in wages suddenly the balanace of the squad is much healthier with 2 experienced first teamers and 2 youngsters with huge potential.

On top of this, the likes of Carrick, Nani, Welbeck, Chico & Cleverley are all players who have value and could well be sacrificed to make way for new players. Personally I would prefer to keep all except Cleverly but I can see merit if they are deemed surplus to requirements. Personally I feel they are all worth £3M-£10M each and earn at least £65K a week (Nani much more) so any other of these supposed stellar signings could be funded by selling these players and freeing up more wages.

I think a smaller squad is needed this season as domestic competitions are all we have to play for. This can help I feel.

It leaves money left over for even more 'dream' signings but wages will spiral costs and may mean trimming of even more squad players.

redbaron_99

redbaron_99 wrote: »

We already have one of the greatest ever wingers as assistant manager to guide adnan.

I agree, but the more around him the better. He will get his chances, it may aid him to better himself in training in there is also added healthy competition.

TheDoc

adox wrote: »

That Giggs thread is ****ing awful.
Gives a huge insight in to some posters, if it wasnt needed already.

jaw to the floor stuff. Only catching that thread now.

Although in fairness will be the same from the flipside when there is the inevitble "Gerrard retires" thread, cause I know I wouldn't pull any punches in that.

Just goes to show the knowledge of some posters and their tribalistic views of rival clubs. To play at that level for that length of time is nothing short of unique and is testiment to his ability and dedication.

Every great player in the world has had nothing but praise for Giggs bar the bitter Keane who just can't get over United.

His various records and stats speak for themselves, anyone else can **** off imo. Even bringing his personal life into the equation is just nit picking to buck the trend, like who he stuck his dick in has any reflection of his status on the football pitch.

I don't hear people argueing against Messi being pumped full of drugs, that without them he never would have been a footballer.

Rubbish stuff to try go against the grain and succumb to that stupid tribal fan stuff I despise.

ElChe32

yaya toure ‏@Toure_yaya42 2m

Everything dimitry said is true . He speaks for me . I will give an interview after world cup to explain

G'wan woody throw a bid in for auld Yaya..I'll bake him a cake.

adox

ElChe32 wrote: »

yaya toure ‏@Toure_yaya42 2m

Everything dimitry said is true . He speaks for me . I will give an interview after world cup to explain

G'wan woody throw a bid in for auld Yaya..I'll bake him a cake.

Is that his real account???

If it is I`m off to twitter to wish him a belated happy birthday!!

ElChe32

ElChe32 wrote: »

yaya toure ‏@Toure_yaya42 2m

Everything dimitry said is true . He speaks for me . I will give an interview after world cup to explain

G'wan woody throw a bid in for auld Yaya..I'll bake him a cake.

I would have a piece of that cake..what a sickener that would be for City :P

ElChe32

M!Ck^ wrote: »

I would have a piece of that cake..what a sickener that would be for City :P

Yeah Miguel Delaney just retweeted it. SICKENER for city!

Timmyctc

That Giggs thread isn't as bad as yer all making out. Its basically one poster flogging a dead horse trying to get a reaction, and failing miserably.

lordgoat

Timmyctc wrote: »

That Giggs thread isn't as bad as yer all making out. Its basically one poster flogging a dead horse trying to get a reaction, and failing miserably.

Just use it as a yardstick for what you're allowed to say/do in SF.

NoviGlitzko

Yaya is only doing a Rooney to get a better contract after a great year. Those Arabs will give him anything.

bangkok

ElChe32 wrote: »

yaya toure ‏@Toure_yaya42 2m

Everything dimitry said is true . He speaks for me . I will give an interview after world cup to explain

G'wan woody throw a bid in for auld Yaya..I'll bake him a cake.

yaya knows Barcelona are lacking a midfielder of his stature, size etc and he is working a way to go back there.... barca also know they may need to sell one of fabregas sanchez pedro to fund one of many moves they will be making. would be great to see yaya go back to barca and cesc to come to Manchester UTD

paulbok

TheDoc wrote: »

I'd be off the contraversial opinion that Carrick is now surplus to requirements.

No, even if we sign Vidal, Kroos & Fabregas, he'd be needed as backup.

We can't replace half the team (potentially 5 1st team players coming) and not keep some experience/ backup like Carrick for a season.

markcahill1985

Aenaes wrote: »

What would you guys think if the club went in for Barry?

:eek::eek::eek:

TheDoc

paulbok wrote: »

No, even if we sign Vidal, Kroos & Fabregas, he'd be needed as backup.

We can't replace half the team (potentially 5 1st team players coming) and not keep some experience/ backup like Carrick for a season.

I don't think he's an influential a figure as people make out. No one knows what happens behind closed doors, but I can't imagine he gives out or gets lippy with anyone, and I doubt he inspires any fire in the belly sort of stuff. Seems a very bland, boring individual.

Hasn't really transfered that "experience" onto the pitch or the team this year. Has looked ruffled and flustered plenty this season past.

Lord TSC

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I might be misunderstanding you, but Van Persie is only 4 months older than Robben and was signed two years ago, so he was 1.5 years younger?

Fair enough on the age thing.

The fact he is contract though till 2017, his team don't want rid of him and he is a top player means we would have to pay big anyway. 30m to me would be about right.

Reedsie

There's a video of the club presenting a birthday cake to Toure and sang happy birthday. He didn't even take off his headphones or look up from his laptop. They used social media to wish him happy birthday.
What the f**k does he want? He's a 31yo not a f**king 10 year old.

He's always moaning about something.

March 2013 YAYA TOURE’S decision to quit Manchester City has nothing to do with money. It is about principle
May 2012 City shocker as Yaya's agents invites offers from Barcelona, Chelsea and Bayern

Hopefully City don't pamper the f**ker any more because of it.
He's making a bit of an effort to get back to Barcelona. If they don't take him he won't go anywhere.

keane2097

Used to always hate Robben over the years but saw a load of interviews with him randomly over the last two or three years and he actually comes across as an extremely likable, jocular, jovial chap.

There's an ongoing argument in my gaff over who we'd like to go on the piss with and Robben is close to the top of the list of soccer players!

Rayne Wooney

If we got Robben cheap it would be a masterstroke, himself and Ribery are still pretty much in a league of their own when it comes to wingers and he still has a few years left I'd say

homerjay2005

just took a look at that Giggs thread, good grief talk about bitterness and vile in one thread.

i dont know why you lot bother entertaining these losers, you make them feel important by replying to them.

Lord TSC

homerjay2005 wrote: »

just took a look at that Giggs thread, good grief talk about bitterness and vile in one thread.

i dont know why you lot bother entertaining these losers, you make them feel important by replying to them.

Yeah, can never figure out which I think is worse; people who are obviously looking for a reaction or the people who dedicate quite a bit of time falling for their tricks..

Mikeyt086

homerjay2005 wrote: »

just took a look at that Giggs thread, good grief talk about bitterness and vile in one thread.

i dont know why you lot bother entertaining these losers, you make them feel important by replying to them.

One of the greatest mysteries of Boards.ie for me.

beakerjoe

homerjay2005 wrote: »

just took a look at that Giggs thread, good grief talk about bitterness and vile in one thread.

i dont know why you lot bother entertaining these losers, you make them feel important by replying to them.

This is the reson I rarely post on the soccer forum. A few bad eggs ruin it for me. I still follow it but id rather talk about soccer in other forums off topic threads than here.

Whether its trolls, bitter rival fans or just argumentative type posters, the soccer forum isnt a place i like to have discussions.

homerjay2005

beakerjoe wrote: »

This is the reson I rarely post on the soccer forum.

its why 99% of my posts are on this thread, anything outside of United just is not worth the hassle.

TheDoc

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

One of the greatest mysteries of Boards.ie for me.

It's nearly human nature to have the last say.

Cantona's Collars

homerjay2005 wrote: »

just took a look at that Giggs thread, good grief talk about bitterness and vile in one thread.

i dont know why you lot bother entertaining these losers, you make them feel important by replying to them.

Ah,the old circlejerk of bile & bitterness.The more hateful the post,the more certain posters thank it.

xabi

homerjay2005 wrote: »

its why 99% of my posts are on this thread, anything outside of United just is not worth the hassle.

And then you have that sig.

Cantona's Collars

@juanmata8
Follow

What a pleasure it has been to play with them... Thanks for everything you've done for football and good luck!

brinty

zerks wrote: »

@juanmata8
Follow

What a pleasure it has been to play with them... Thanks for everything you've done for football and good luck!

God above but Mata is an absolute class act altogether, so glad we got him.

next year he'll have his fingerprints all over the success of this team

Lord TSC

I like to think Mata spent an hour this morning on photoshop creating that graphic :P

Reedsie

xabi wrote: »

And then you have that sig.

Everyone at Shawshank is innocent

brinty

brinty wrote: »

God above but Mata is an absolute class act altogether, so glad we got him.

next year he'll have his fingerprints all over the success of this team

Such a refreshing attitude he has. I thoroughly enjoy his blog posts also.

Hococop

Im not going to waste time looking at the giggs thread but could someone give me a rough idea as to what has been said. Im guessing stuff relating to his personal life

bangkok

Hococop wrote: »

Im not going to waste time looking at the giggs thread but could someone give me a rough idea as to what has been said. Im guessing stuff relating to his personal life

that's exactly it, had a brief look through... wouldn't even bother writing anything.

LostBoy101

Hococop wrote: »

Im not going to waste time looking at the giggs thread but could someone give me a rough idea as to what has been said. Im guessing stuff relating to his personal life

You guessed right.

TheDoc

Hococop wrote: »

Im not going to waste time looking at the giggs thread but could someone give me a rough idea as to what has been said. Im guessing stuff relating to his personal life

Putting dick in wrong place = not good footballer

Bannerman7

Looking forward to hopefully a few world class signing coming in. It will be exciting over the summer with the transfer speculation on who is coming in and leaving.
I'm happy with LVG and RG taking the club forward. For me Champions League qualification, a good run in the FA and League Cups plus one or two younger players coming thru is realistic.

TheDoc

Was more encapsulated by the above with how many stars we have had in that time, my word

Rayne Wooney

The Giggs thread is a great laugh, join us

Celebrating the great mans career and watching Liverpool fans make fools of themselves in one thread

Rayne Wooney

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

The Giggs thread is a great laugh, join us

Celebrating the great mans career and watching Liverpool fans make fools of themselves in one thread

It is actually