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DCM 2014: Mentored Novices Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,184 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    Ososlo wrote: »
    Going to McGrattan's as a novice who didn't know anybody else didn't really work out for me last year and a lot of the other novices. We didn't have any way of recognising each other. I recognised Krusty and plucked up the courage to go say hi to the Legend!! and I met his oh Emer911 Legend!! too which was great. I didn't meet anyone else and it was a shame but I wasn't going to go around the pub shouting 'Boardsie, Boardsie?'
    We'll have to work something out. Kurt Godel had a good idea a few months ago about a way of people getting-together which I'll 'talk' to him about again and get back to ye.

    I'll be easy to spot. I will be standing between these two clowns, aka my fellow 3:40 pacers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Just so you feel normal and not like you're losing your minds:D

    You know you're tapering when...

    you're constantly hungry.

    you're having dreams that you show up to the race start in your underwear or without your running shoes.

    you're cranky from not running.

    you find yourself frequently saying, "after the marathon..."

    you're reading a lot of motivational quotes about marathons.

    your friends/significant other/co-workers run in the opposite direction when you mention the word "marathon.":D

    you keep flip-flopping between wishing the race was tomorrow and thinking it would be great to have a few more weeks of training.

    you visit the starting line area to visualize race day.

    you've completely lost focus at work.

    you're convinced you've gained 10 pounds since you started tapering.

    you feel sluggish and like you could run forever...all during the same run.

    you've planned out three possible outfits for the race and keep asking running friends for opinions on which one to go with.

    you have random bursts of energy when you want to reorganize your closets or kitchen pantry.

    you've studied the course map enough that you've memorized where all the Porta-potties will be on the course.

    you research celebrity marathon times to see what famous people you could beat.

    you've tried every race time prediction calculator on the Internet.

    you've vowed to not eat pasta for at least a month after the marathon.

    you obsessively check the weather forecast for race day.

    most of your Facebook updates are marathon-related.

    you've lost patience for the people who ask, "So, how long is this marathon?"

    you feel tired during a short run and start wondering how you can possibly do 26.2.

    you keep giving your family members and friends suggestions for marathon spectator signs.

    every little twinge makes you think you've got a race-ending injury.

    you've already picked out the spot where you'll display your marathon medal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Gavlor wrote: »
    I'll be easy to spot. I will be standing between these two clowns, aka my fellow 3:40 pacers

    ha ha the one on the right looks vaguely familiar:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭MKDTH


    Just be careful in drastically altering an existing stride now and trying to run that for 26 miles. My transition to a new running form took a couple of months to bed in properly and the first couple of weeks were difficult. Suddenly I was using muscles either in a different way or for what may as well have been the first time ! If you change your stride too much it may be counter productive for you.

    Yes in the long term most definitely look at chi running style - I believe it will help with your injury problems. But in this now very short term I'd be inclined to stick with what your legs are used to. Just some more food for thought for you :)
    Ososlo wrote: »
    absolutely agree. Changing running style all of a sudden could make things worse. I also found when I started changing my running style and stride that I ran faster (not a good idea for you at the moment). It was fine for me as I was only doing short runs but it'd be a different story for someone tackling a marathon.
    Save any big changes to running style for after the event.

    Agree 100% with above advise, I think this may of been why the bone from my heel to my toes was hurting when running downhill yesterday.
    #Lessonlearnt!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Ososlo wrote: »
    Going to McGrattan's as a novice who didn't know anybody else didn't really work out for me last year and a lot of the other novices. We didn't have any way of recognising each other. I recognised Krusty and plucked up the courage to go say hi to the Legend!! and I met his oh Emer911 Legend!! too which was great. I didn't meet anyone else and it was a shame but I wasn't going to go around the pub shouting 'Boardsie, Boardsie?'
    We'll have to work something out. Kurt Godel had a good idea a few months ago about a way of people getting-together which I'll 'talk' to him about again and get back to ye.

    Can we reserve a table or an area and put a page with the boards.ie logo on the table or something? Maybe they don't allow you to do that there?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    adrian522 wrote: »
    Can we reserve a table or an area and put a page with the boards.ie logo on the table or something? Maybe they don't allow you to do that there?

    no I don't think so but I'll check. The place was literally teeming with people last year, mainly standing (I later found out that the vast majority of people there were actually Boardsies). You wouldn't see a little sign on a table I don't think even if they did allow you to reserve an area. It was a bit like a cattle mart it was so busy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    adrian522 wrote: »
    Can we reserve a table or an area and put a page with the boards.ie logo on the table or something? Maybe they don't allow you to do that there?

    Half of the pub will be boardsies - someone will have your table before you get there :D

    Luckily enough in 2012 I had met up with Blocky for a drink the night before as he was staying in the same hotel. He being so much faster than me introduced me to quite a few boardsies he was sitting with when I eventually got there some hours later :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Ososlo wrote: »
    no I don't think so but I'll check. The place was literally teeming with people last year, mainly standing (I later found out that the vast majority of people there were actually Boardsies). You wouldn't see a little sign on a table I don't think even if they did allow you to reserve an area. It was a bit like a cattle mart it was so busy.

    It was mayhem there last year. That was in my pre-boardsie days and I got to observe the strange ritual of people sidling up to each other muttering about boards, then going who are you on boards? Then 'recognising' and high fiving each other like old mates. And knowing more about each other's training, PB's etc than the real world companions did!!! Definitely would intimidate me as a novice but everyone was very friendly. My advice: bring some one with you who can actually walk (in other words, a non racer)... To the bar, etc!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    The pacers will usually end up in the pub too, and will introduce you around (if you buy them a pint!) :-)
    Or maybe all the novices could wear a yellow ribbon...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    RayCun wrote: »
    The pacers will usually end up in the pub too, and will introduce you around (if you buy them a pint!) :-)
    Or maybe all the novices could wear a yellow ribbon...

    yeah but how do you spot the pacers?

    I think the yellow ribbon in your hair is a great idea.
    (as long as I don't have to wear one)
    :p
    bear in mind too that there are lots of non-novice Boardsies who won't know anyone either so should they wear a blue ribbon maybe?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    RayCun wrote: »
    The pacers will usually end up in the pub too, and will introduce you around (if you buy them a pint!) :-)
    Or maybe all the novices could wear a yellow ribbon...

    No no we're not allowed to wear anything different on the day!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    annapr wrote: »
    No no we're not allowed to wear anything different on the day!!!

    :D smart ass:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭aquinn


    None of you are selling any benefits of McGrattans, other than no stairs and closest pub. I'm convinced anyway that anyone I see out running I now know from here :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Ososlo wrote: »
    yeah but how do you spot the pacers?

    I think the yellow ribbon in your hair is a great idea.
    (as long as I don't have to wear one)
    :p
    bear in mind too that there are lots of non-novice Boardsies who won't know anyone either so should they wear a blue ribbon maybe?

    Maybe we could follow the pacers all the way to the bar? I know one 5 hr pacer who will deffo be there!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Maybe we should setup a whatsapp group and we can communicate with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Dubgal72 wrote: »
    I feel for you! Couldn't help thinking though that your timing is spot on. Next week would have been horrible and pre-taper would have messed with your head/confidence. Get well soon!!

    Yeah, definitely could be worse!!! I'm optimistic. Won't affect my PB anyhow :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,184 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    adrian522 wrote: »
    Maybe we should setup a whatsapp group and we can communicate with that.

    Smooth way of getting phone numbers ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭aquinn


    I know.
    Take photo at finish with medal.
    Join/update photo to Tinder.
    Limp to pub.
    Set location to within 50 feet.
    Matched!
    :-)
    I think the ribbon might be best solution, so far anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭Nicsx


    annapr wrote: »
    No no we're not allowed to wear anything different on the day!!!

    At least a ribbon in your hair won't cause chafing! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    :D:D
    Nicsx wrote: »
    At least a ribbon in your hair won't cause chafing! :D
    the only way you could know this is if you wear one on your LSRs :-)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Firedance wrote: »
    :D:D
    the only way you could know this is cause you wear one on your LSRs :-)

    now now. Anyone here goes out and runs 18 miles with 10 at mp on the weekend just to check out if the yellow ribbon in their hair causes chafing to their heads will be punished accordingly. :cool:
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Ososlo wrote: »
    now now. Anyone here goes out and runs 18 miles with 10 at mp on the weekend just to check out if the yellow ribbon in their hair causes chafing to their heads will be punished accordingly. :cool:
    :D

    and they'll have to buy the pacers 2 drinks :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭laura_ac3


    Ososlo wrote: »
    Absolutely SUPER post here by tunguska on the course profile if you haven't already read it.

    Sorry to distract from the socialising theme but I have a running question :eek:

    I read the great summary from Tunguska and I've noticed advice about not worrying about exactly maintaining marathon pace for some of the drags. I remember ecoli I think posting something similar also - about keeping the effort consistent and not to obsess with keeping the marathon pace on some of the sections. Presumably then the pace might fluctuate a little bit depending on hills, drags, ups, downs etc?

    As a novice who personally won't be setting any records for speed how much of this should we be concerned with? I only ask because I had planned on following pacers who I think (stand to be corrected) will be maintaining a fairly consistent pace? If so, do you just stick with them (and ignore the comments That might make me nervous :rolleyes: ) or back off the pace a bit for those sections and hope you gradually catch up on the next favourable part?

    Hope that makes sense. Taper madness :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    and they'll have to buy the pacers 2 drinks :P

    if they can find them!!!!!!
    Actually, thinking bout it, I think the 3 wise men/stooges should be the focal point for the McGrattan's beers and each should wear a yellow ribbon in their hair. I'll buy you each the drink of your choice if you comply.
    Well?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Ososlo wrote: »
    if they can find them!!!!!!
    Actually, thinking bout it, I think the 3 wise men/stooges should be the focal point for the McGrattan's beers and each should wear a yellow ribbon in their hair. I'll buy you each the drink of your choice if you comply.
    Well?

    Gavlor normally wears a yellow headband, will that do?


  • Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭MLC_biker


    How about writing your Boards name on the back of your race number in large letters beforehand,then turning it around before going into the pub ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Gavlor normally wears a yellow headband, will that do?

    perfect! 3 headbands then instead of ribbons? They'd stay on better on most of your heads than ribbons anyways I'd say:p


  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Joleigh


    OMG I AM SO HUNGRY!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Seriously nothing is filling me today. Did 13 miles yesterday. It was grand. Can't write about it now though. Too hungry. You'll recognise me on the day. I'll be the mitchellin woman with a yellow ribbon in my hair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    laura_ac3 wrote: »
    I read the great summary from Tunguska and I've noticed advice about not worrying about exactly maintaining marathon pace for some of the drags. I remember ecoli I think posting something similar also - about keeping the effort consistent and not to obsess with keeping the marathon pace on some of the sections. Presumably then the pace might fluctuate a little bit depending on hills, drags, ups, downs etc?

    As a novice who personally won't be setting any records for speed how much of this should we be concerned with? I only ask because I had planned on following pacers who I think (stand to be corrected) will be maintaining a fairly consistent pace? If so, do you just stick with them (and ignore the comments That might make me nervous :rolleyes: ) or back off the pace a bit for those sections and hope you gradually catch up on the next favourable part?

    Hope that makes sense. Taper madness :confused:
    Tunguska is not a fan of following pacing groups afaik and yes your pace will fluctuate if you let your pace be determined by the course profile and not the pacing group. This worked well for me last year.

    If you've planned on following pacers then I think you should stick with that. Yes they will maintain consistent pace (ease up a tiny bit on uphills I think). Yes I think you should stick with your plan as it sounds like you'll feel more confident that way. In saying that, don't be afraid to drop back the pace a bit if you are finding it a bit challenging. You'll likely catch up with them later in the race anyways. I don't think you should worry and stick with your plan.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    laura_ac3 wrote: »
    Sorry to distract from the socialising theme but I have a running question :eek:

    I read the great summary from Tunguska and I've noticed advice about not worrying about exactly maintaining marathon pace for some of the drags. I remember ecoli I think posting something similar also - about keeping the effort consistent and not to obsess with keeping the marathon pace on some of the sections. Presumably then the pace might fluctuate a little bit depending on hills, drags, ups, downs etc?

    As a novice who personally won't be setting any records for speed how much of this should we be concerned with? I only ask because I had planned on following pacers who I think (stand to be corrected) will be maintaining a fairly consistent pace? If so, do you just stick with them (and ignore the comments That might make me nervous :rolleyes: ) or back off the pace a bit for those sections and hope you gradually catch up on the next favourable part?

    Hope that makes sense. Taper madness :confused:

    I just read that summary
    Kinda sorry now I did
    I don't think most novices should be concerning themselves with all that at all


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