Transfer Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread - Summer 2014 - Mod note in OP

Lucas Hood

Liverpool agree fee for Moreno.

Meglamonia

Southampton have enquired about Shane long

ASOT

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Liverpool agree fee for Moreno.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/394064/REVEALED-Liverpool-agree-12m-deal-for-Alberto-Moreno

£12m apparently, great bit of business!

Vinz Mesrine

ASOT wrote: »

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/394064/REVEALED-Liverpool-agree-12m-deal-for-Alberto-Moreno

£12m apparently, great bit of business!

If that price is right and even if it's not, it just goes to show how bloody ridiculous this English tax is.

Harry Palmr

12m v 30m for Luke Shaw who has less experience having never played in Europe. Crazy difference

Lucas Hood

Harry Palmr wrote: »

12m v 30m for Luke Shaw who has less experience having never played in Europe. Crazy difference

Shaws homegrown that always seems to bump up the price In England.

Rayne Wooney

13 million for Moreno is a good deal, he is nothing really special but at that price a decent left back

Shaw both younger and better than him is why he went for double and add in a few million for being English too

Cookiemunster

Harry Palmr wrote: »

12m v 30m for Luke Shaw who has less experience having never played in Europe. Crazy difference

Marca reporting the fee at €20m. €18m plus €2m in add ons. AS reporting €18m. So that would roughly be between £14.5 and £16.
Shaw cost £27m not £30m.

rob316

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

13 million for Moreno is a good deal, he is nothing really special but at that price a decent left back

Shaw both younger and better than him is why he went for double and add in a few million for being English too

Na Southampton rode ye on the price like the rest of us. Shaw is nothing really special either as you put it.

Utopia Parkway

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Shaw both younger and better than him is why he went for double and add in a few million for being English too

Add in a lot of millions for being English more like. Not Shaw's fault mind.

Vinz Mesrine

rob316 wrote: »

Na Southampton rode ye on the price like the rest of us. Shaw is nothing really special either as you put it.

He will be when he moves forward on to the left wing in 3/4 years.

Rayne Wooney

A 17/18 year old doing consistently well in the premier league is very special

rob316

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

A 17/18 year old doing consistently well in the premier league is very special

I would rather pay 13m for a 22 year old left back than 27m for a 18 year old left back.

Rayne Wooney

rob316 wrote: »

I would rather pay 13m for a 22 year old left back than 27m for a 18 year old left back.

So you're an ageist now father?

Mikeyt086

Is it impossible to avoid doing this every time a Premier League club makes a signing?

Talib Fiasco

Like it or not 30 million for an 18 year old is a savage risk...sure is a talented player but so many young English players have turned out to be absolute stinkers after making a big move

Alfred Borden

why was shaw even dragged into this?

Rayne Wooney

Raf32 wrote: »

why was shaw even dragged into this?

Seems to grate Liverpool fans that United got Shaw without CL football, so he has been brought up a lot when they are linked with a left back

rob316

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

So you're an ageist now father?

I'm merely pointing out its a huge risk that fee, his development could stall as he is fairly young where as moreno is 22 who is much further along in his development who is less of a risk and half the fee.

Shaw might turn out to be brilliant but right now it's not good business and is a 27m risk.

Vinz Mesrine

Raf32 wrote: »

why was shaw even dragged into this?

I suppose it's my fault for saying it was ridiculous that United were forced into paying so much money for their left back just because he's English when you consider how much Liverpool paid for a player at about the same level.

rob316

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Seems to grate Liverpool fans that United got Shaw without CL football, so he has been brought up a lot when they are linked with a left back

Lmfao where did you come up with that. I don't know a single liverpool fan bothered that united signed him, not one.

Vinz Mesrine

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Seems to grate Liverpool fans that United got Shaw without CL football, so he has been brought up a lot when they are linked with a left back

Who the hell does it grate? Liverpool were never in for Shaw, very strange post.

Utopia Parkway

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

He will be when he moves forward on to the left wing in 3/4 years.

I don't see him doing a Bale like that to be honest. Don't think he has a winger's attacking instincts. Doesn't have Bale's sheer athleticism either. I think he'll stay a LB.

keane2097

Can someone PM me when the transfer news comes back?

glued

rob316 wrote: »

I'm merely pointing out its a huge risk that fee, his development could stall as he is fairly young where as moreno is 22 who is much further along in his development who is less of a risk and half the fee.

Shaw might turn out to be brilliant but right now it's not good business and is a 27m risk.

Every transfer is a risk... Shaw has the upside of actually playing in the Premier League, United have a huge turnover (£150M+ move than Liverpool for example) and he's 'homegrown'.

Moreno is certainly a good left back but is he any better than Shaw? I'm not sure about that even at being 4 years ahead in his development.

I don't get why we have to do this for every Premier League transfer. It's not as if Liverpool have written the book on Premier League transfers. If Shaw turns out to be shít then I'm not going to care either as the Glazer family will have to pocket up for that. It's not as if United are spending our last £27M on Shaw.

Bog

Hull accept 12 (TWELVE) million bid from Southampton for Long

Vinz Mesrine

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

I don't see him doing a Bale like that to be honest. Don't think he has a winger's attacking instincts. Doesn't have Bale's sheer athleticism either. I think he'll stay a LB.

You have to remember hes only 18 and will be moved slightly forward this year when compared to last season, he's going to be much more attacking as a wingback which will definitely aid his transition to playing as a winger/forward.

Kiwi_knock

Shane Long being linked with a £12 million move to Southampton. A lot of money for a striker who is not a guaranteed goal scorer.

Gets your lads out and start measuring!

Hard to say who'll be the better play of the two mentioned. Both could be great, both could be failures. Who knows

Johner

Kiwi_knock wrote: »

Shane Long being linked with a £12 million move to Southampton. A lot of money for a striker who is not a guaranteed goal scorer.

Fee agreed according to Jim White.

Rayne Wooney

As I said, good buy at that price and a decent player

If you want to compare the prices then Shaw is better, younger and already done well in the premier league, went for 15 million more as a result

Vinz Mesrine

My only intention on posting was to give out about the English tax, I have no interest in comparing players because as I said, I see Shaw as a winger.

prettyboy81

Moreno

ArielAtom

Hoddle to a coaching role at QPR, great move byb'Arry

Lucas Hood

There's so much money involved at the top end of football now I find it hard to care how much is spent on any given player.

Rayne Wooney

Kiwi_knock wrote: »

Shane Long being linked with a £12 million move to Southampton. A lot of money for a striker who is not a guaranteed goal scorer.

Long a player guaranteed to get into a position to score and then miss, hopefully he starts putting them away

Aenaes

I think a move to Southampton will benefit Long. He should have more genuine chances in front of goal and hopefully starts putting a few of them away.

.jacksparrow.

Kiwi_knock wrote: »

Shane Long being linked with a £12 million move to Southampton. A lot of money for a striker who is not a guaranteed goal scorer.

He only moved to hull?????

hjkl

Long's finishing can be very poor but he will still get you 6,7,8 goals a season which is a perfectly fine return for a striker at mid-lower Premier League clubs.

ASOT

frimpong wrote: »

Long's finishing can be very poor but he will still get you 6,7,8 goals a season which is a perfectly fine return for a striker at mid-lower Premier League clubs.

8 goals for 12m is a terrible return lets be honest.

Lucas Hood

ASOT wrote: »

8 goals for 12m is a terrible return lets be honest.

They're buying him for longer than 1 season you know?

Ross McCormack went for 11m recently.

ASOT

Lucas Hood wrote: »

They're buying him for longer than 1 season you know?

Ross McCormack went for 11m recently.

I know but for a 12m investment youd expect a striker to score more than 8 goals a season.

Yeah i know Ross went for that much, 51 goals in the last three seasons all beit in the championship but in an absolutely terrible leeds team is a good return. Hes home grown and english, so nomatter how mad it sounds it seems about right with how footballs gone these days.

Long has 23 goals in that period but obviously scored his goals in the premiership.

Mad money for both of them anyway.

Frankie Lee

His game is about a lot more than just goals though.

ASOT

Frankie Lee wrote: »

His game is about a lot more than just goals though.

I know his work rate is tremendous, dont get me wrong i think hes a good player but i just think for 12m they could have done alot better!

Vinz Mesrine

ASOT wrote: »

I know but for a 12m investment youd expect a striker to score more than 8 goals a season.

Yeah i know Ross went for that much, 51 goals in the last three seasons all beit in the championship but in an absolutely terrible leeds team is a good return. Hes home grown and english, so nomatter how mad it sounds it seems about right with how footballs gone these days.

Long has 23 goals in that period but obviously scored his goals in the premiership.

Mad money for both of them anyway.

He's Scottish.

Magath will have him crawling through London over the next few weeks after slating his fitness levels.

ASOT

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

He's Scottish.

Magath will have him crawling through London over the next few weeks after slating his fitness levels.

That he is, completely slipped my mind. Magath is nuts, reminds me of di canio.

JPA

Kiwi_knock wrote: »

Shane Long being linked with a £12 million move to Southampton. A lot of money for a striker who is not a guaranteed goal scorer.

Madness. Now let's see what overpriced gem Brucie replaces him with.

Long for 12m. Wtf? he's very average imo.

Prices in England are ridiculous. A good housing market style crash is needed

GLaDOS

Great move for Long.

Poor deal for Southampton, big downgrade on Lambert, apart from Long being younger.

Rayne Wooney

Guillem Balague
"Moreno will pass his medical in Liverpool tomorrow"

I didn't know Balague was psychic, another talent added to the mans repertoire