Transfer Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread - Summer 2014 - Mod note in OP

Cookiemunster

Raif Severance wrote: »

Seriously? They just let Welbeck and Chicarito go, in this Transfer Window.

And if the Rumors concerning RVP's Knee Operation is True, they'd be left with 1 Senior Striker.

Man U Fans better pray that Rooney doesn't get Injured.

Click on the link............

Rayne Wooney

Had to laugh



Pray for Arsenal

swoody

Ben Arfa to Hull Done! (according to the perving camera man)

https://twitter.com/sir_cornflake/status/506589375501991936

Marty McFly

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Had to laugh



Pray for Arsenal

But but ah fcuk it... fingers crossed us Arsenal fans can be the ones smiling in a few months.

Super-Rush

Welbeck to Arsenal done.

swoody

Super-Rush wrote: »

Welbeck to Arsenal done.

yip

https://twitter.com/Arsenal/status/506592020480393216

kryogen

I think he will turn out to be a great signing for Arsenal in time, would wish him nothing but the best for the future.

Corholio

In all the madness of today and ridiculous fees, it's a nice footnote that Kranjcar took a 66% wage cut to join QPR. Of course he's still getting decently paid but good to know it's not always about earning more and more.

swoody

rumours that john Guidetti has asked to have is contract cancelled with man city as its in its last year to sign for celtic on a free. subject to approval

Danger781

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/506599979168055296

swoody

BOOM!

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/506599979168055296

night......

Super-Rush

Di Maria, Mata, Rooney, RVP and Falcao, that is seriously impressive.

Corholio

Falcao plays best when he's the 1 up front so it's gonna be interesting to see how they work him in.

Strongbow10

Corholio wrote: »

Falcao plays best when he's the 1 up front so it's gonna be interesting to see how they work him in.

not true at all

Super-Rush

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/sep/02/transfer-window-summer-2014?CMP=twt_gu

AdamD

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Had to laugh



Pray for Arsenal

curiously missing

Harry Palmr

AdamD wrote: »

curiously missing

NOT A STRIKER.

IF you include Sanchez then Liverpool can include Sterling and Utd Di Maria. etc

AdamD

AdamD wrote: »

curiously missing

Yeah funny to leave out possibly one of the best signings of the season!

Harry Palmr

Here's a question - why did Falcao end up at a side not playing Champions League football?

Once it became obvious Monaco were looking to take him off the wage bill at the very least, Real Madrid looked like the most obvious (and nuts) destination followed by PSG (if they shifted a couple). Then Liverpool made enquiries and were rebuffed by the player (though I really doubt LFC would make a rod for their backs with his 350k a week loan), and City entered the fray. Negredo is sold and then he pops up at Utd a team not playing CL football and certainly not guaranteed to be doing so next season.

So why did Real pass and get Utd loanee Hernandez instead, why did City not get fully involved (and why did they sell Negredo so leaving themselves short?)?

MagicIRL

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Here's a question - why did Falcao end up at a side not playing Champions League football?

Once it became obvious Monaco were looking to take him off the wage bill at the very least, Real Madrid looked like the most obvious (and nuts) destination followed by PSG (if they shifted a couple). Then Liverpool made enquiries and were rebuffed by the player (though I really doubt LFC would make a rod for their backs with his 350k a week loan), and City entered the fray. Negredo is sold and then he pops up at Utd a team not playing CL football and certainly not guaranteed to be doing so next season.

So why did Real pass and get Utd loanee Henandez instead, why did City not get fully involved (and why did they sell Negredo so leaving themselves short?)?

Maybe the player wanted to go to United and, despite other clubs going for him, he declined?

tok9

I imagine the main reason is because the majority of clubs cannot afford his wages.

Realistically in England, only City could have offered what United did.

Harry Palmr

MagicIRL wrote: »

Maybe the player wanted to go to United and, despite other clubs going for him, he declined?

You missed then? or was it a fake?

I think he actually had nowhere else to go - like Di Maria who was left high and dry by Real Madrid - the logic of that move also mystifies as moving him out should have been to make room for Falcao.

MagicIRL

I heard that was faked, but who really knows what goes on in the transfer world?

ThunbergsAreGo

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Here's a question - why did Falcao end up at a side not playing Champions League football?

Once it became obvious Monaco were looking to take him off the wage bill at the very least, Real Madrid looked like the most obvious (and nuts) destination followed by PSG (if they shifted a couple). Then Liverpool made enquiries and were rebuffed by the player (though I really doubt LFC would make a rod for their backs with his 350k a week loan), and City entered the fray. Negredo is sold and then he pops up at Utd a team not playing CL football and certainly not guaranteed to be doing so next season.

So why did Real pass and get Utd loanee Hernandez instead, why did City not get fully involved (and why did they sell Negredo so leaving themselves short?)?

According to Balague (i know i know) Madrid never wanted him and it was all Falcao and his agent trying to get a move there. Madrid always wanted a back up striker. Also i would assume alot of players noses would have been out of joint at those wages!

rob316

Harry Palmr wrote: »

You missed then? or was it a fake?

I think he actually had nowhere else to go - like Di Maria who was left high and dry by Real Madrid - the logic of that move also mystifies as moving him out should have been to make room for Falcao.

Same reason Chelsea sold United Mata, they wanted rid at a high price and only united could meet that fee. They are all great signings for them definitely and have me worried again but circumstances made those players a lot easier to attract. If City or Real wanted Falcao seriously they would have got him same if PSG wanted Di Maria.

klose

Strongbow10 wrote: »

not true at all

He played in a 433 at porto with hulk and varela and a 4231 up front on his own at atleti, hes never played with with a strike partner in his two most fruitful spells at clubs, although i assume united will bin that 352 soon enough

SherlockWatson

rarnes1 wrote: »

Yeah funny to leave out possibly one of the best signings of the season!

Di Maria > Sanchez and its not even that close.

Ed Winchester

Harry Palmr wrote: »

NOT A STRIKER.

IF you include Sanchez then Liverpool can include Sterling and Utd Di Maria. etc

You're wrong there.

Wenger has publicly said he signed him as a striker. And in four starts this season, he's started up top on his own twice.

Ed Winchester

SherlockWatson wrote: »

Di Maria > Sanchez and its not even that close.

In your opinion.

Gavlor

https://twitter.com/jav_moreno_/status/506706464220909568

Will I Amnt

So Mata, Di Maria and Falcao all ended up at United because they had nowhere else to go?
Awwwh we're like a rescue centre for unwanted footballers, how nice.

SherlockWatson

Ed Winchester wrote: »

In your opinion.

I know, I typed it.

Harry Palmr

Will I Amnt wrote: »

So Mata, Di Maria and Falcao all ended up at United because they had nowhere else to go?
Awwwh we're like a rescue centre for unwanted footballers, how nice.

Pretty much! Utd will spend money on the unwanted and the homeless superstar player that others won't as they either don't have the money or simply don't need the player.

Corholio

Strongbow10 wrote: »

not true at all

It is true. He's always played better and scored more goals when he has a system with wide players rather than a strike partner.

SherlockWatson

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Pretty much! Utd will spend money on the unwanted and the homeless superstar player that others won't as they either don't have the money or simply don't need the player.

Falcao Di Maria and Mata are unwanted??


You're following the wrong sport if that's your opinion.


I'd rather loan Falcao for a year than buy over inflated English talent for 2-3x their worth.

Will I Amnt

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Pretty much!

And you know the ins and outs of these transfers? Who was in for them? How much they were willing to outlay and how much they were willing to pay in wages?

Harry Palmr

SherlockWatson wrote: »

Falcao Di Maria and Mata are unwanted??


You're following the wrong sport if that's your opinion.


I'd rather loan Falcao for a year than buy over inflated English talent for 2-3x their worth.

I better explain how this market thing works - a seller needs a buyer, some "potential" buyers would like what the seller has but have not got the money, other "potential" buyers already have that product and are happy.

Utd had both the money and the "need" whereas PSG, Chelsea, Real, Barca and City (the only other plausible clubs) didn't need, other clubs who might say "I'd love a Di Maria" didn't have 60 million to spend.

In truth its not even that - Utd no more needed Mata in January than they need Falcao now but clearly a certain willy waving mentality has gripped the club so Woodward is writing cheques that the manager may not be able to cash on the field of play.

Mata has done sod all since his arrival and now looks like the 37 million quid spare wheel.

SherlockWatson

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I better explain how this market thing works - a seller needs a buyer, some "potential" buyers would like what the seller has but have not got the money, other "potential" buyers already have that product and are happy.

Utd had both the money and the "need" whereas PSG, Chelsea, Real, Barca and City (the only other plausible clubs) didn't need, other who might say I'd love Di Maria didn't have 60 million to spend.

In truth its not even that - Utd no more needed Mata in January than they need Falcao now but clearly a certain willy waving mentality has gripped the club so Woodward is writing checks that the manager may not be able to cash on the field of play.

Mata has done sod all since his arrival and now looks like the 37 million quid spare wheel.

You really are clueless, the only thing you said that's true/relevant was that a buyer needs a seller, congratulations.


I'll take Di Maria over Markovic and Lallana, and I'd take loaning Falcao over Balotelli and Lambert.


To me it sounds like you're unhappy with your clubs dealings and are projecting those inadequacies towards Unites.

Harry Palmr

SherlockWatson wrote: »

You really are clueless, the only thing you said that's true/relevant was that a buyer needs a seller, congratulations.


I'll take Di Maria over Markovic and Lallana, and I'd take loaning Falcao over Balotelli and Lambert.


To me it sounds like you're unhappy with your clubs dealings and are projecting those inadequacies towards Unites.

You can believe as you want, Utd have got players no one else wanted at huge expense (and Falcao is one knock from another knee op). I'm happy with the LFC summer as I posted on the thread about the transfer window 8/10 for me.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057281910

Will I Amnt

Harry Palmr wrote: »

You can believe as you want, Utd have got players no one else wanted at huge expense (and Falcao is one knock from another knee op). I'm happy with the LFC summer as I posted on the thread about the transfer window 8/10 for me.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057281910

Poor United, stuck with the dross that nobody wanted...

klose

Surprised city let negredo go, ageuro and jovetic are fond of the treatment table leaving only dzecko as their only striker who you would rely on being fit for the rest of the season

Harry Palmr

klose wrote: »

Surprised city let negredo go, ageuro and jovetic are fond of the treatment table leaving only dzecko as their only striker who you would rely on being fit for the rest of the season

They have to pray until January. Aguero is only a tackle from being out for 4-6 games at which point everything could be up in the air.

Andersonisgod

klose wrote: »

He played in a 433 at porto with hulk and varela and a 4231 up front on his own at atleti, hes never played with with a strike partner in his two most fruitful spells at clubs, although i assume united will bin that 352 soon enough

He played a significant portion of his Atletico career playing alongside Costa, who was a magnificent foil for the Columbian.

GavRedKing

I would have liked Falcao at Chelsea, im sure every club would have but for a huge loan fee and those wages, im happier with a younger Costa.

Im sure urd fans wont give a bo**ocks how much they spend if they get top 4 or higher and whe you look at what theyve spent and who theyve brought in its a minimum, hell that squad/manager combo should be steam rolling the league but time will tell but theres huge pressure on LVG now he has the squad he wants, seemingly, to deliver.

SherlockWatson

Harry Palmr wrote: »

You can believe as you want, Utd have got players no one else wanted at huge expense (and Falcao is one knock from another knee op). I'm happy with the LFC summer as I posted on the thread about the transfer window 8/10 for me.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057281910

In that case every single player is only one tackle away from a broken leg, so why sign anybody, stellar stuff again .

Utd are gambling on top 4 through sheer spending.

If they don't get it, it's a bit of financial disaster.

RasTa

Falcao, Di Maria and Blind signed in 6 days...

Today, feeling like the classic

greendom

rarnes1 wrote: »

Utd are gambling on top 4 through sheer spending.

If they don't get it, it's a bit of financial disaster.

And Arsenal are gambling on a threadbare defence keeping them in the top 4.

CSF

SherlockWatson wrote: »

Di Maria > Sanchez and its not even that close.

No way!!!

Harry Palmr

SherlockWatson wrote: »

In that case every single player is only one tackle away from a broken leg, so why sign anybody, stellar stuff again .

Sure but Utd already have a weak jointed player in Van Persie why sign another with such history?. You may find your buttocks clenching when Shawcross goes in.