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The Virgin Media Television thread

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    #3152
    lertsnim
    Registered Users Posts: 9,768 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Of course FilmOn and the likes exist but are we talking about broadcast tv or internet streaming on this board?


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    #3153
    reubenreuben
    Registered Users Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    That number assumes that only one channel goes HD. If all channels went HD at the same time there would be a small increase. If RTE put all their channels onto Mux1 and gave mux2 to TV3 and TG4, it would cost €6m each. Currently RTE pay €8m of the €12m cost. The cost of one HD channel is currently bout €2.5 m but that is because so much capacity is burnt off. Four HD channels should fit on Mux2 so that would be €1.5m each, not €2.5 million each.

    For TV3, the current cost of €2.8m would rise to €4.5m. (or so).
    Until tv3 is forced to pay more by the legislators then i cant see them doing it. They seem happy with virgin and sky in hd only


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    #3154
    ziggyman17
    Registered Users Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭ziggyman17


    lertsnim wrote: »
    Of course FilmOn and the likes exist but are we talking about broadcast tv or internet streaming on this board?

    People are asking how to get ITV without a satellite, and I pointef out you can get it through an app on your phone and stream it to a TV.


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    #3155
    Thargor
    Registered Users Posts: 17,936 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    FilmOn is the absolute worst of the streaming series, there are far superior alternatives.


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    #3156
    KCAccidental
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭KCAccidental


    Boulevardier wrote: »
    I should not have to go to that sort of trouble to get a channel which was available to all until a couple of years ago.

    UTV was never available to all though. It was never on the Sky Ireland EPG (could be manually tuned in on other channels) and unless you were in a neighbouring county, it wasn't available on Irish terrestrial either.


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    #3157
    dave98
    Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭dave98


    I like the new logos but the TV3+1 is very bad


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    #3158
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    dave98 wrote: »
    I like the new logos but the TV3+1 is very bad

    It's just their +1 logo from before, not really a logo.


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    #3159
    dave98
    Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭dave98


    Elmo wrote: »
    It's just their +1 logo from before, not really a logo.
    Yeah but they could have moved the +1 a small bit. Looks bad


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    #3160
    Maz2016
    Registered Users Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭Maz2016


    That does look pretty amateurish to be fair. The +1 needs to be moved to the right and down. Did anyone at tv3 even check this before they changed.


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    #3161
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Maz2016 wrote: »
    That does look pretty amateurish to be fair. The +1 needs to be moved to the right and down. Did anyone at tv3 even check this before they changed.

    +1 has been a channel for nearly 2 years and TV3 haven't even bothered to considered a font that might meet the design requirements of either the old or the new TV3 logo, same goes for HD.


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    #3162
    Maz2016
    Registered Users Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭Maz2016


    The font isnt too dis similar to other +1 channels like Discovery for example so thats not an issue. The issue is the +1 and the 3 logo are over lapping. Think thats what he meant. And it didnt overlap on the old TV3 logo


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    #3163
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Maz2016 wrote: »
    The font isnt too dis similar to other +1 channels like Discovery for example so thats not an issue. The issue is the +1 and the 3 logo are over lapping. Think thats what he meant. And it didnt overlap on the old TV3 logo

    generally channels will try to use similar fonts or fonts that work with their logo, in this case TV3 have brought in a new logo and not moved the +1 logo up on the screen. regardless of design they've done nothing to the position of the +1 logo.


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    #3164
    Maz2016
    Registered Users Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭Maz2016


    Elmo wrote: »
    generally channels will try to use similar fonts or fonts that work with their logo, in this case TV3 have brought in a new logo and not moved the +1 logo up on the screen. regardless of design they've done nothing to the position of the +1 logo.

    You finally get it :)


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    #3165
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Maz2016 wrote: »
    You finally get it :)

    My point was if they can't do a simple design exercise its unlike they checked where the +1 following the rebrand!


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    #3166
    mackersdublin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    No DOG for 3e HD or be3 HD

    The new TV3 HD DOG is nice and discreet


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    #3167
    dave98
    Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭dave98


    mackersdublin wrote: »
    No DOG for 3e HD or be3 HD

    The new TV3 HD DOG is nice and discreet

    Yeah it is.


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    #3168
    StaticNoise
    Registered Users Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭StaticNoise


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    reubenreuben wrote: »
    Yes i know. And that is why it isnt in hd because they dont want to pay the extra costs compared with sd. 3 times is what i have read somewhere

    That number assumes that only one channel goes HD. If all channels went HD at the same time there would be a small increase. If RTE put all their channels onto Mux1 and gave mux2 to TV3 and TG4, it would cost €6m each. Currently RTE pay €8m of the €12m cost. The cost of one HD channel is currently bout €2.5 m but that is because so much capacity is burnt off. Four HD channels should fit on Mux2 so that would be €1.5m each, not €2.5 million each.

    For TV3, the current cost of €2.8m would rise to €4.5m. (or so).


    So, unless in reading this wrong, but it would be cheaper all round if RTE moved to Mux1 and gave allocated Mux2 for the rest?


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    #3169
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    StaticNoise wrote: »
    So, unless in reading this wrong, but it would be cheaper all round if RTE moved to Mux1 and gave allocated Mux2 for the rest?

    but all their eggs would be in one basket ........ which I suspect is a consideration.


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    #3170
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,707 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    StaticNoise wrote: »
    So, unless in reading this wrong, but it would be cheaper all round if RTE moved to Mux1 and gave allocated Mux2 for the rest?
    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    but all their eggs would be in one basket ........ which I suspect is a consideration.

    Well, yes and no. The benefit of spreading their output onto two muxes allows them to grab more bandwidth when they need it. If RTE 1 and RTE 2 were both demanding high bandwidth, it might not be there for them. However with the likes of TV3 screwing down the fuzz button, then there will always be plenty.

    The benefit of RTE going to mux 1, is that it becomes bleedingly obvious who is subsidizing who. RTE are paying an extra €2m under the current regime.

    Minister please take note.


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    #3171
    patrickmooney
    Registered Users Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭patrickmooney


    mackersdublin wrote: »
    No DOG for 3e HD or be3 HD

    The new TV3 HD DOG is nice and discreet

    There was an old logo 3eHD dog which aired from 1am until the logo changed. Odd they had a HD dog for the old brand and not the new.


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    #3172
    mackersdublin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    dave98 wrote: »
    I like the new logos but the TV3+1 is very bad

    Fixed now. It's inline with the HD version


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    #3173
    dave98
    Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭dave98


    mackersdublin wrote: »
    Fixed now. It's inline with the HD version

    Yeah looks better. They must be reading boards 😂😂


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    #3174
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,707 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    dave98 wrote: »
    Yeah looks better. They must be reading boards 😂😂

    If they were, they would be HD on Saorview.

    The penny pinching is in their DNA. Don't they show 'Can't pay, wont pay!' Art copying life.


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    #3175
    channelsurfer2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    I see the chase at 6pm is not the same as the 5pm ones on ITV, which on utvirl they were. The strategy seems to be soaps first at all costs then we will pick and choose stuff such as Tina And Bobby if we think it might get an audience.


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    #3176
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    channelsurfer2 wrote: »
    I see the chase at 6pm is not the same as the 5pm ones on ITV, which on utvirl they were. The strategy seems to be soaps first at all costs then we will pick and choose stuff such as Tina And Bobby if we think it might get an audience.

    Daft, if TV3 want to repeat on the main channel at a later stage they should do so, but it should be simucast. Also some of those shows are not distributed by ITV Studios.

    One Drama on ITV is BBC Worldwide = RTE
    another is with Sony


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    #3177
    dave98
    Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭dave98


    channelsurfer2 wrote: »
    I see the chase at 6pm is not the same as the 5pm ones on ITV, which on utvirl they were. The strategy seems to be soaps first at all costs then we will pick and choose stuff such as Tina And Bobby if we think it might get an audience.

    Yes, their 2015 episodes. So disappointing


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    #3178
    channelsurfer2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    dave98 wrote: »
    Yes, their 2015 episodes. So disappointing
    pretty silly considering its not costing them anything extra to show new episodes as it's part of the ITV studios deal.


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    #3179
    lertsnim
    Registered Users Posts: 9,768 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    It's not surprising. TV3 are beyond understanding what their viewers want. At least ITV is an option for anyone wanting new episodes on satellite (or streaming)


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    #3180
    The Parish priest
    Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭The Parish priest


    Their "youth" channel 3e still has a major identity problem, what is judge rinder doing on the channel at 6pm ? Is that a youth program ?


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    #3181
    Maz2016
    Registered Users Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭Maz2016


    channelsurfer2 wrote: »
    The strategy seems to be soaps first at all costs.

    So very true. Take Emmerdale for example.
    Its on 7pm (TV3),
    repeated at 10.30pm (be3),
    repeated the next day at 2.30pm,
    repeated again in the omnibus at the weekend.

    Thats 2 hours of emmerdale per episode (split over the 2 channels) So for the 6 episodes of emmerdale per week (which is 3 hours) they manage to get 12 hours out of it. It was always 9 hours but now 12. And thats only one show, corrie, judge judy, xpose, red rock even Elaine is shown live on TV3 then repeated twice on be3.

    Speaking of Elaine. I watched it on TV3 yesterday. Instead of taking 3 breaks like before in the hour, it took 4 (4x3mins).

    Im just waiting for shows like the best of Elaine, The best of Ireland AM, the best of judge judy etc to appear. :)


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