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    #2132
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    JDxtra wrote: »
    Because it's easier (i.e. cheaper) for them to just replay the whole thing. They don't care.

    Plus a "best of" edited version would surely only be a few minutes long! :)

    Do they still do a best of Ireland AM at the weekend?


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    #2133
    iseegirls
    Registered Users Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    Elmo wrote: »
    Do they still do a best of Ireland AM at the weekend?

    Yes it's on after 1am on a Saturday and Sunday night.

    There was a time this 'Best of' was shown 6 times over two days on 3e and TV3. At least it's been reduced to two times now.


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    #2134
    Rick_
    Registered Users Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭Rick_


    Red Rock has been picked up by the BBC for a daily broadcast on BBC 1

    http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/red-rock/news/a789445/irish-soap-red-rock-finds-a-uk-home-as-bbc-daytime-picks-up-the-acclaimed-drama/


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    #2135
    The Talking Bread
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    pad e wrote: »
    Red Rock has been picked up by the BBC for a daily broadcast on BBC 1

    http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/red-rock/news/a789445/irish-soap-red-rock-finds-a-uk-home-as-bbc-daytime-picks-up-the-acclaimed-drama/

    fair play.


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    #2136
    Elmo
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    pad e wrote: »
    Red Rock has been picked up by the BBC for a daily broadcast on BBC 1

    http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/red-rock/news/a789445/irish-soap-red-rock-finds-a-uk-home-as-bbc-daytime-picks-up-the-acclaimed-drama/

    It's a good show/soap. I don't think anyone is denying this, the problem for the show as far as viewing figures are concerned is that it doesn't have a strong schedule surrounding it. I think it getting on BBC ONE daytime might boost the show here in Ireland. interesting to see if the boost from the BBC will result in TV3 either co-producing it with the BBC for a 5 day week or an increase in audience over all for the channel.


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    #2137
    iseegirls
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    Elmo wrote: »
    interesting to see if the boost from the BBC will result in TV3 either co-producing it with the BBC for a 5 day week or an increase in audience over all for the channel.

    I'd hate to see it going to a 5 day week soap. A soap's quality goes down hill when the episode numbers go up during the week. Their main aim is to get episodes going through the summer - and have one off hourlong episodes after a big event - like The X Factor final, Euro 2016 matches or something similar.


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    #2138
    The Cush
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    pad e wrote: »
    Red Rock has been picked up by the BBC for a daily broadcast on BBC 1

    http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/red-rock/news/a789445/irish-soap-red-rock-finds-a-uk-home-as-bbc-daytime-picks-up-the-acclaimed-drama/

    The Sunday Times reported the story back in Feb - http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/ireland/article1672608.ece


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    #2139
    Rick_
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    Although, that was just the sale to BBC Worldwide they mention. A decision hadn't been made on when or where the show would end up. This is confirming that it getting a relatively big slot on Daytime on BBC 1 so was worthy of posting.


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    #2140
    Elmo
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    pad e wrote: »
    Although, that was just the sale to BBC Worldwide they mention. A decision hadn't been made on when or where the show would end up. This is confirming that it getting a relatively big slot on Daytime on BBC 1 so was worthy of posting.

    BBC WW deal is for distribution not sure how that fits with BBC1 buying rights from All3Medi.


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    #2141
    The Cush
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    Elmo wrote: »
    BBC WW deal is for distribution not sure how that fits with BBC1 buying rights from All3Medi.

    All3Media International is a Liberty Global/Discovery company, they're the distributor for Red Rock so not surprising to see these deals done via a sister company. From what I read BBC purchased the series (80 episodes for €500,000) but no mention of BBC Worldwide in any of the recent press official releases, it only appears in the media reports when the story broke in the press late Feb/early March. Maybe the deal includes distribution via the BBC Worldwide channels.
    BBC Daytime has acquired award-winning Irish drama Red Rock from All3Media International.
    ...
    Stephen Driscoll, the executive VP of media at all3media international, said: “We are very proud to see Red Rock secure a home on the BBC.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2016/red-rock
    BBC Daytime has acquired award-winning Irish drama Red Rock from All3Media International.
    ...
    It is uncertain which UK station Red Rock will feature on as of yet, but insiders have hinted that it might be a prominent slot such as BBC Worldwide, which would mean international success.


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    #2142
    Elmo
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    I am not sure if it was the Sunday Times that Mentioned BBC WW but to me it sounded like a distribution deal worth 500,000.

    Though now it sounds like the deal is one in the same.

    Also according to the BBC they are showing hour long episodes, not sure if it is 80 altogether.


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    #2143
    Harry Palmr
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    500,000? they can start to broadcast in HD for the Euros! (yeah right)


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    #2144
    aphex™
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    €6250 per episode. Woo.

    Still, another shouty soap for the Eastenders market. They'll lap it up.


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    #2145
    The Cush
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    Elmo wrote: »
    I am not sure if it was the Sunday Times that Mentioned BBC WW but to me it sounded like a distribution deal worth 500,000.

    Though now it sounds like the deal is one in the same.

    Also according to the BBC they are showing hour long episodes, not sure if it is 80 altogether.

    Reported to have purchased 40 x 1hr episodes (80 x 30min).

    Its the same deal that was reported in the Sunday Times at the end of Feb and everywhere else the following days. Officially announced at the annual MIPTV event at Cannes with no reference to BBC Worldwide.

    https://www.c21media.net/bbc-amazon-climb-aboard-red-rock/


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    #2146
    The Talking Bread
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    The Cush wrote: »
    Reported to have purchased 40 x 1hr episodes (80 x 30min).

    Its the same deal that was reported in the Sunday Times at the end of Feb and everywhere else the following days. Officially announced at the annual MIPTV event at Cannes with no reference to BBC Worldwide.

    https://www.c21media.net/bbc-amazon-climb-aboard-red-rock/

    Does that mean you are speculating they will show two episodes per day??

    i dont think it would work editing it into an hour long episode tbh. each episode is set over a day and attaching two together, you never see that soapwise


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    #2147
    The Cush
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    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    Does that mean you are speculating they will show two episodes per day??

    I've seen it reported in a few media reports as 40x60min episodes, incl the BBC press release
    BBC Daytime has acquired award-winning Irish drama Red Rock from All3Media International.

    Produced by Element Pictures and Company Pictures, the 40x60 series will broadcast daily later in the year.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2016/red-rock


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    #2148
    Elmo
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    Interesting to see so few news articles on TV3 this year in comparison to last year. TV3 nearly had a new story out everyday last year.


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    #2149
    Infoanon
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    Elmo wrote: »
    Interesting to see so few news articles on TV3 this year in comparison to last year. TV3 nearly had a new story out everyday last year.

    TV3 is no longer up for sale....


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    #2150
    political analyst
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    TV3 showed the first series of "Mr Selfridge" (which I've never watched) but it didn't show the second. UTV Ireland showed the third series at the same time as the ITV Network. That meant that Saorview and Sky viewers missed out on the second series and would have had to get the DVD to be able to watch it.

    I'm not interested in "Mr Selfridge" but I'd say that some viewers in the Republic were annoyed that TV3 didn't show the second series? Why didn't TV3 show the second series even though it had shown the first?


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    #2151
    The Talking Bread
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    political analyst wrote: »
    TV3 showed the first series of "Mr Selfridge" (which I've never watched) but it didn't show the second. UTV Ireland showed the third series at the same time as the ITV Network. That meant that Saorview and Sky viewers missed out on the second series and would have had to get the DVD to be able to watch it.

    I'm not interested in "Mr Selfridge" but I'd say that some viewers in the Republic were annoyed that TV3 didn't show the second series? Why didn't TV3 show the second series even though it had shown the first?

    Probably because ITV are the commisioners and UTV Ireland was set up and the majority of ITV shows that TV3 used to have (a lot) were lost. TV3 had a partnership agreement with ITV with which they could procure the rights for programmes for a much cheaper cost but that was lost when ITV set up their own station in the Republic.
    I am not sure if UTV Ireland show it.


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    #2152
    political analyst
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    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    Probably because ITV are the commisioners and UTV Ireland was set up and the majority of ITV shows that TV3 used to have (a lot) were lost. TV3 had a partnership agreement with ITV with which they could procure the rights for programmes for a much cheaper cost but that was lost when ITV set up their own station in the Republic.
    I am not sure if UTV Ireland show it.

    UTV Ireland hadn't started broadcasting when the second series was broadcast by the ITV network.


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    #2153
    The Talking Bread
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    political analyst wrote: »
    UTV Ireland hadn't started broadcasting when the second series was broadcast by the ITV network.

    In fairness how are TV3 supposed to cover all their multiple repeats if they are purchasing other programmes!
    What drew your attention to this if you dont even watch the programme anyway!!


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    #2154
    political analyst
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    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    In fairness how are TV3 supposed to cover all their multiple repeats if they are purchasing other programmes!
    That doesn't make sense to me.
    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    What drew your attention to this if you dont even watch the programme anyway!!
    It doesn't affect me personally, given that I don't watch it. I'm just saying that people who did watch it might be annoyed. I raised the issue with regard to consistency, i.e. why not show the second series if you've shown the first when no other broadcaster has got the rights to it, i.e. UTV Ireland wasn't broadcasting when the ITV network broadcast the second series.

    Just because I never watched the show it doesn't mean I'm prohibited from raising the issue.


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    #2155
    The Talking Bread
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    political analyst wrote: »
    That doesn't make sense to me.

    .


    It was a joke mate related to the fact that TV3/ 3E repeat their programmes multiple times. Pretty simple!!

    For example Gran Torino was on tonight and this is the fourth or fifth showing of it in the last 8 weeks.


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    #2156
    The Talking Bread
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    political analyst wrote: »
    That doesn't make sense to me.


    It doesn't affect me personally, given that I don't watch it. I'm just saying that people who did watch it might be annoyed. I raised the issue with regard to consistency, i.e. why not show the second series if you've shown the first when no other broadcaster has got the rights to it, i.e. UTV Ireland wasn't broadcasting when the ITV network broadcast the second series.

    Just because I never watched the show it doesn't mean I'm prohibited from raising the issue.

    I didn't say you weren't!! I just wondered what drew your attention to it! Jeez.


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    #2157
    political analyst
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    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    I didn't say you weren't!! I just wondered what drew your attention to it! Jeez.
    Fair enough. I remember from reading TV listings and seeing trailers at the time.


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    #2158
    political analyst
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    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    It was a joke mate related to the fact that TV3/ 3E repeat their programmes multiple times. Pretty simple!!
    Sometimes, I'm slow at picking up on jokes.


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    #2159
    lertsnim
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    And people would have complained if UTV Ireland played catch up and showed older episodes. They can't win.


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    #2160
    icdg
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    Its very hard to convey tone through the medium of text only. Emoticons can partially, but only paritially, address this. That said the poster didn't even bother to use these.

    When posters are intending to "joke" I'd ask them to read their post and see how the text, standing on its own, looks to other people who have no awareness of the other persons state of mind. They may find that what they think is a joke looks to other people like something different.

    Thanks


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    #2161
    iseegirls
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    The likely main reason it didn't air any other seasons was due to the ratings being bad. Even looking at the ratings that UTV Ireland got recently - on around 60,000 for a Friday slot that is directly after Corrie which would get 300k

    TV3 also decreased the amount of dramas they showed from the ITV Studios catalogue as the years went by. Similar to choosing packages on a Sky subscription, looks like they went for the 'entertainment' package - getting most of the quiz and game shows. There was a time that Cold Feet, Heartbeat, Bad Girls, Footballers Wives, A Touch Of Frost, Lewis, The Royal were main programmes on TV3. Now maybe that's ITV Studios fault - have they produced any decent dramas since that would be good for TV3 at the time.

    There is now rarely any dramas on TV3. They focus more on one off documentaries regarding crime or the latest event in the news, Channel 5 factual series about being crippled with too many kids or being fat, and re-re-reruns of films shown weeks previously.


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