Manager of the year

Agueroooo

Agueroooo wrote: »

as I said others are using this thread for a different purpose which is a pity.

Who is others? You post is not very specific. If your going to make open ended comments at least have something to back it up.

kryogen

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Who is others? You post is not very specific. If your going to make open ended comments at least have something to back it up.

Presumably anybody who has dared to have a different opinion

dfx-

Mickeroo wrote: »

As for Pelligrini, he's definitely worth a shout but I don't think he's exceeded any expectations really.

On the expectations point and the credit he should get, nice article from Jonathan Wilson today...

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/may/08/manuel-pellegrini-manchester-city-title-premier-league

When he arrived, Pellegrini insisted he was tactically flexible, not wedded to one system, and although he has tended to play either 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1, there has been the odd dabble with 4-3-3. His career has shown him to be, essentially, a pragmatist – not in the sense in which the term is often used in football as a defensive coach, but in his willingness to adapt rather than seeking to impose a set philosophy on the team. At Málaga, for instance, he played a rapid counterattacking game, while at Villarreal the approach was slower, funnelled through the playmaking abilities of Riquelme.

Agueroooo

kryogen wrote: »

Presumably anybody who has dared to have a different opinion

Wrong.
You know what they say about assumptions.

Moneymaker

I think i'd give it to Pulis. I remember we beat Palace 3-0 at Selhurst back in November and they were the worst PL i'd ever seen.

It's a remarkable turnaround.

Rodgers has done a superb job as well. Mark Hughes, Steve Bruce and Pochettino have done very solid jobs too.

bad2dabone

"Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Ill leave it at that as Im dragging the discussion off topic and personally I dont know who deserves manager of the season as 4/5 have great claims in their own way.

Some fair points, and I agree, we could argue about it all day and neither of us would be convinced. I just know that I'd always be wondering about that point lost if I was a pool fan.
No doubt that the eleven consecutive wins to put them into that position was incredible and they were a juggernaut at that point. I'd have no gripes if Rodgers wins it at all, he's done a great job there.

bad2dabone

Agueroooo wrote: »

as I said others are using this thread for a different purpose which is a pity.

Thought there's been a decent standard of debate on this topic

kryogen

Agueroooo wrote: »

Wrong.
You know what they say about assumptions.

Is it similar to what they say about presumptions?

kryogen

bad2dabone wrote: »

Thought there's been a decent standard of debate on this topic

There has in fairness, one of the Liverpool posters, can't remember which said it earlier, you can make a good argument for 6 of them, personally I can only make a decent argument for 4 but that's irrelevant.

There is a discussion to have on it, people will have different opinions on it, bias will come into it too naturally being the soccer forum, but overall people have made good points for their chosen candidate

Agueroooo

bad2dabone wrote: »

Thought there's been a decent standard of debate on this topic

Yea the majority having a good debate with valid points from both sides.

Agueroooo

Agueroooo wrote: »

Yea the majority having a good debate with valid points from both sides.

From this....

Agueroooo wrote: »

as I said others are using this thread for a different purpose which is a pity.

To this...

Its all so vague

Knex*

Chronologically, it was the other way around Mick. Does it make more sense now?

AdamD

Voted Rodgers. Steve Bruce should be there IMO, they were tipped by many to come bottom of the league yet he had the safe with a fair few games to go and they've a cup final to come. Qualified for the Europa league too.

Agueroooo

AdamD wrote: »

Voted Rodgers. Steve Bruce should be there IMO, they were tipped by many to come bottom of the league yet he had the same with a fair few games to go and they've a cup final to come. Qualified for the Europa league too.

Actually do you know what that's a great shout.
Bruce should definitely be in the conversation.

kryogen

I think Bruce has gone under the radar a bit because there has been no real drama there, they have consistently gone along through the season, never really in danger of challenging for honours at the end or of being relegated, he is unlucky in a way too, the achievements of Rodgers, Pulis et al would put most managers in the shade this year

Edit: Ha he did actually get an honour by the end of the season! He should definitely be in the conversation actually

Knex.

Knex. wrote: »

Chronologically, it was the other way around Mick. Does it make more sense now?

Even I will laugh at that :pac: but really....it's turned into a wind up because 'others' know I'm right.

Lennonist

I think the poll attached reflects the number of Liverpool fans on this site. Rodgers did well and Pulis did well, so did Poyet to keep Sunderland up.

After winning the double of League and Carling Cup Pelligrini is manager of the year.

Paully D

I'd completely disagree with the Steve Bruce shouts. They finished 16th in the league and spent near £30m. Nothing out of the ordinary. I'm not sure if the cups count in these awards, but even if they do you won't find a team with an easier run to any cup final - Middlesboro, Brighton, Southend, Sunderland and Sheffield United. They'd be favourites in all those ties.

He's a decent manager IMO but should be nowhere near this award in a year where Pulis, Poyet, Rodgers and Pelligrini have done what they have.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Rodgers for me. Exceeded any realistic expectations at the start of the season. Pulis in second and Pellegrini a close 3rd.

Johner

Pulis wins!

Oliver Kay ‏@OliverKayTimes

Confirmed: Tony Pulis is Premier League manager of the year (voted for by LMA, ie fellow managers)

mike65

Well done to Tony Pulis.

Clearly getting from bottom to 11th is tougher than 7th to 2nd.

Fair play Pulis.

Is it true he might be out of a job soon? Him and the chairman don't see eye to eye supposedly.

Newcastle?

JerCotter7

Johner wrote: »

Pulis wins!

Deserved it.

Barr

Well deserved for Pulis , the man has done wonders at Crystal Palace

mike65

rarnes1 wrote: »

Fair play Pulis.

Is it true he might be out of a job soon? Him and the chairman don't see eye to eye supposedly.

Newcastle?

Wut!?! They should double his salary.

thebaz

if Pulis does leave - how do you think he will do at a bigger club - a Newcastle or the like - can't see him ever offered a bigger job - like Spurs , never mind the big 5

will he always just manage at the level he has - mid- to lower level teams ?

Johner

Says now Rodgers won the LMA award.

Pulis won something else.

googled eyes

Oliver Kay ‏@OliverKayTimes 1m
And the overall LMA Manager of the Year* is ....... Brendan Rodgers

(*Across all four divisions, voted for by all the managers)

.;)

LeBash

Pulis for me.

Washington Irving

I was saving this for the league win that never came, may as well leave it here:

klose

Pulis took over palace when they were a massive 3 points from safety with 20+ league games to turn it about and a transfer window to sort things out. He done a very good job but nothing extraordinary tbh.

chasm

LMA Manager of the Year sponsored by Barclays – Brendan Rodgers, Liverpool – presented by Roy Hodgson

Barclays Premier League Manager of the Year – Tony Pulis, Crystal Palace - presented by Howard Wilkinson

Happy with that

Utopia Parkway

klose wrote: »

Pulis took over palace when they were a massive 3 points from safety with 20+ league games to turn it about and a transfer window to sort things out. He done a very good job but nothing extraordinary tbh.

Nearly more a reflection of how bad Holloway was doing with them.

Utopia Parkway

Johner wrote: »

Says now Rodgers won the LMA award.

Pulis won something else.

Rodgers won the LMA award voted for by every football league manager across the 4 divisions.

Pulis won the Premier League award voted for by Premier League managers only.

Actually I might be mistaken according to the LMA website.

The LMA Manager of the Year Award is voted for by all LMA members and goes to the manager who, in their opinion, has made the greatest use of the resources available to him in the current season.

The Barclays Premier League Manager of the Year is decided by the Barclays Panel of Judges.

mike65

No wonder there's confusion with that kind of carry on.

the incredible pudding

Nice that they could share the honours as they both deserve recognition.

Good to see recognition for great jobs done by both men.

Pellegrini deserves something too but the league trophy will just have to do for now!

Demosthenese

Anyone that listens to Sky Sports with blinkers will vote for Pulis. Hardly surprising. No doubt he did well this season but probalby as well as Poyet in the grand scheme of things and just showed he was capable of getting more from a decent Palace side. His style of defencive football doesn't always work however but he does get the kudos for where they ended up. But for manager of the year it has to be Rodgers really - the transformation is incredible from 7th last season to deny that means you are probably a United supporter and trying to come to terms with a sensational season or you still have your subscription to Sky.

EuropeanSon

Demosthenese wrote: »

Anyone that listens to Sky Sports with blinkers will vote for Pulis. Hardly surprising. No doubt he did well this season but probalby as well as Poyet in the grand scheme of things and just showed he was capable of getting more from a decent Palace side. His style of defencive football doesn't always work however but he does get the kudos for where they ended up. But for manager of the year it has to be Rodgers really - the transformation is incredible from 7th last season to deny that means you are probably a United supporter and trying to come to terms with a sensational season or you still have your subscription to Sky.

:rolleyes:

Agueroooo

Absolutely fully deserved and well done Brendan Rodgers.

also well done Tony Pulis.

ronjo

Is 2nd place the new 4th place trophy?

glued

Demosthenese wrote: »

Anyone that listens to Sky Sports with blinkers will vote for Pulis. Hardly surprising. No doubt he did well this season but probalby as well as Poyet in the grand scheme of things and just showed he was capable of getting more from a decent Palace side. His style of defencive football doesn't always work however but he does get the kudos for where they ended up. But for manager of the year it has to be Rodgers really - the transformation is incredible from 7th last season to deny that means you are probably a United supporter and trying to come to terms with a sensational season or you still have your subscription to Sky.

There is 24 years of hurt in this one! :pac:

secman

So the PL managers chose Pullis as the best in their league, but all the overall members including all the sacked ones , voted for Rogers. That vote doesn't seem fair, as I doubt very much that a manager outside of PL would ever have a chance of winning it. Sure The charming man would prefer his winners medal.

Will I Amnt

Demosthenese wrote: »

the transformation is incredible from 7th last season to deny that means you are probably a United supporter and trying to come to terms with a sensational season or you still have your subscription to Sky.

What an utterly stupid thing to say.

Surely Moyes was given some award?

Even the bumps by fellow managers

mike65

Wot I said on the a gambling thread about the LMA Manager of the Year

Clearly has a chance but only if LFC finish top or within 3 points of the winning team I think. Clearly if Arsenal win Wenger will win as that would be an excellent achievement, Chelsea or City doing it would feel like financial doping in action so the LMA might reward either Wenger or Rodgers for a close 2nd and if that was the choice then the greater points improvement of Liverpool would be most likely to be rewarded.

That's how I see it.

Paully D

thebaz wrote: »

if Pulis does leave - how do you think he will do at a bigger club - a Newcastle or the like - can't see him ever offered a bigger job - like Spurs , never mind the big 5

will he always just manage at the level he has - mid- to lower level teams ?

Mid to lower is his level IMO. There's nothing wrong with that of course, some managers are just suited that way. His playing style, transfer strategy (and record), the fact he likes to have control over everything at the club, dictates that IMO.

Spurs definitely wouldn't work and I'd be very surprised if Newcastle sacked Pardew anyway. Pardew knows he'll never get a bigger job so is happy to act as Ashley's hand puppet, get destroyed in the media for his actions and not spend a penny, yet do relatively well (5th and 10th placed finishes in two of the last three years). It seems to be a relationship that suits both parties.

Agueroooo

I can see a bit of a manager merry-go-round any day now...all kicked off by Shaw and Lallana being sold....

Pulis--->Sunderland/Poyet-->Southampton/Poncherello---->Spurs

Blatter

Paully D wrote: »

Spurs definitely wouldn't work and I'd be very surprised if Newcastle sacked Pardew anyway. Pardew knows he'll never get a bigger job so is happy to act as Ashley's hand puppet, get destroyed in the media for his actions and not spend a penny, yet do relatively well (5th and 10th placed finishes in two of the last three years). It seems to be a relationship that suits both parties.

Newcastle have been in free fall for a while now. I might be wrong but it looks like Pardew may have lost the dressing room. The fact that it didn't shock me that they had two players sent off at Anfield says it all.

If that is the case, I think Ashley has little choice but to change manager.

KH25

Nice to see both Rodgers and Pulis win the awards. Rodgers has transformed Liverpool into a very good team and Pulis completely turned around Palace's season. Congratulations to both.