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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer



    neither should Hellrazers situation imo.

    Sorry I have to disagree with this.I know its only a day a week but she is still learning from an experienced person.

    http://www.profound-piercing.co.uk/intensive.html

    Heres a 6 day course recommended by "the industry"

    So 6 days??And you are a competent piercer??
    That's more bull**** that than training with someone who is experienced.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Best of luck to your daughter with her apprenticeship, Hellrazer. :) And fair play to her for being so determined and working so hard to get it all right. :)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Nobody mentioned her touching "intimate parts", there's a bit of diving off the deep end going on here folks! Nipple was mentioned, gender wasn't, and neither was genital piercing.


    We`re going a bit mad here. Shes not done any genital piercings and only done one nipple-male I think under close supervision.

    The sexualisation of this is a bit over the top to be honest.

    Tattooists and piercers are there to be professional and part of that being professional is that there is no sexualisation of either as in both you can have a client partially unclothed.

    Does anyone think that a junior doctor gets turned on at the sight of "intimate bits" that are under examination?? I highly doubt it!!!But saying that a piercer or tattooist does is the same thing.
    Its unfair to think that of either practitioner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    topcatcbr wrote: »
    can you show an officially recognized apprenticeship for piercing.

    I highly doubt there is such a thing. There is hardly that much to learn compared with say a mechanic or electrician. Maybe as part of a beauticians training but not a stand alone skill.


    I call thinly veiled sexism.
    Your mechanic can't give you hep if they screw up your oil change, jackass. Beautician indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    I call thinly veiled sexism.
    Your mechanic can't give you hep if they screw up your oil change, jackass. Beautician indeed.

    Are you claiming women can't be mechanics or electricians?

    I believe his intent was other commonly apprenticeship based jobs. But I could be wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Are you claiming women can't be mechanics or electricians?

    I believe his intent was other commonly apprenticeship based jobs. But I could be wrong.



    are you claiming they aren't in a tiny minority? sorry, but adding the "beautician" bit was the clincher.

    also, the point about hep still stands.

    I have to admit, I the lack of knowledge in this thread genuinely surprises me. Yes, anyone can shove a needle in someone. The question is whether they can do it cleanly, and whether it is correctly placed so that it will actually heal. Both of those things require experience and training.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    My points are

    1.Can a person learn to pierce in one of these money scamming courses

    or

    2. Is it not better to be doing training with someone under close supervision in a clean and hygienic environment even if it is only on a part time basis?

    Some users are assuming that my daughter has been piercing anybody and everybody..but the reality is the person is given the option of the main piercer or the trainee under supervision who is training her in all aspects of hygiene cleanliness.

    So far the people who opted for the trainee have been really happy with their piercings.

    Id love to know your honest opinion BR as youre around this industry for years.Can a part time apprenticeship lead to good experience in this profession?

    We really are behind her if this is her decision to go into this as long as she gets a good leaving cert and either a diploma or degree to fall back on.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    I call thinly veiled sexism.
    Your mechanic can't give you hep if they screw up your oil change, jackass. Beautician indeed.


    But they could in reality kill you outright if they didn't tighten up a wheel nut or leave a wheel loose...believe me Ive been down the road of more than one case where mechanics have been dismissed for dangerous practices that could have killed someone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭topcatcbr


    I call thinly veiled sexism.
    Your mechanic can't give you hep if they screw up your oil change, jackass. Beautician indeed.

    i don't understand your point.

    i was comparing the training required to do an apprenticeship. Staged exams in conjunction with a program of recognized training set out by a recognized awarding body. Eg C&Gs or dept of education or third level institutions. In Ireland Fetac or Hetac.

    There was no sexism in any of my statement's.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭Pierced Off


    OK, haven't posted for a while but I saw this and felt I had to get involved.
    Firstly, all this b*&%$*x about "Apprenticeships" There isn't now, nor ever has been, a piercing apprenticeship. It doesn't takes 2-3 years to learn, it isn't rocket science and most "piercers" who take on apprentice's are looking for cheap labour.
    The majority of the Pierced and piercing community in this country seem to place an almost mystical aura about what they do. At the end of the day it is basically putting a needle through various parts of the human body. Yes there is a certain skill to it, yes I know hygiene, sterilisation etc. But come on 2 years to learn this.... I think not.
    The most important things for any trainee piercer are practice and correct guidance. Provided they are being shown and taught the correct procedure for performing a particular piercing, it is the practice and the continually performing this procedure that makes them a good piercer. If they are able to get to practice this 100 times in 20 days, is that not better than practicing it 20 times in 2 years? I don't necessarily agree that school children, working part time, should learn to be piercers but at the end of the day, if they're been taught properly,then whats the problem. We all had to start somewhere.
    Before you all jump in with the "What the F*%K does he know".....ex paramedic (knowledge of anatomy), piercing over 20 years, pierced all over the UK, still piercing in Dublin. Never had an apprentice but have passe don my knowledge to countless people, providing they were willing to learn, showed common sense and could get the all important PRACTICE!!


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