Would you be offended...

WilyCoyote

Jimminism wrote: »

That's the typical narrow-minded, tribal attitude I expect from the people down South. Not really a surprise to be honest. Seems Irish people only started existing less than 100 years ago when the state was created to them.

If you have nothing to add to the post, why post? Your infantile ramblings are a little irritating. I guess your real life is irritating also.
You need a girlfriend. Or at least a sexual outlet other than yourself. Then your outlook in life will be sunnier.

The Aussie

WilyCoyote wrote: »

If you have nothing to add to the post, why post? Your infantile ramblings are a little irritating. I guess your real life is irritating also.
You need a girlfriend. Or at least a sexual outlet other than yourself. Then your outlook in life will be sunnier.

Honestly, you really should be handing out some Aloe Vera with that post.

Jimminism

WilyCoyote wrote: »

If you have nothing to add to the post, why post? Your infantile ramblings are a little irritating. I guess your real life is irritating also.
You need a girlfriend. Or at least a sexual outlet other than yourself. Then your outlook in life will be sunnier.

Why have you responded to me twice with immature childish name calling? Inbred, stupid and now girlfriend-less? Classy character buddy. I've made all of 3 posts in the last month or so.

I've recently gotten a girlfriend not that it means anything. God I hate arguing with idiots online.

The Aussie wrote: »

Honestly, you really should be handing out some Aloe Vera with that post.

Yeah from your username I can see why you find that classless, immature humour funny.

WilyCoyote

Jimminism wrote: »

Why have you responded to me twice with immature childish name calling? Inbred, stupid and now girlfriend-less? Classy character buddy. I've made all of 3 posts in the last month or so.

I've recently gotten a girlfriend not that it means anything. God I hate arguing with idiots online.

Good. Now download a few vids to see how to get it on!

The Aussie

Jimminism wrote: »

Yeah from your username I can see why you find that classless, immature humour funny.

Believe it or not but I'm actually worse in real life...

Chinasea

DubVelo wrote: »

I take it you've never worked in the UK then.

I take it you have not, that is in the last 25 years or so.

Fighting Irish

dee_mc wrote: »

My first thought was 'it wouldn't bother me'
My second thought was, if I said something like that to a foreign worker in Ireland (which I wouldn't anyway) there'd be hell to pay

So you're basing how you'd react on how other people react?

Lastlight.

No I wouldn't. People need to just get on with it and stop trying to get offended.

cloud493

I get insulted for being english all the time, only to be told your all 'having the craic' so no i wouldn't be offended.

DildoFaggins

Fratton Fred wrote: »

That's true. English people eat chips, drink tea, watch Coronation Street and support Man United........

United? No you must be mistaken it's Liverpool now.

MonstaMash

Hypocrisy is the greatest luxury...

Amazed at the amount of posters who would not be offended by obvious derogatory racial pundits.

& yet if anyone dared to use the 'N' word towards a person of colour & the PC brigade are out in their droves wringing their self-righteous hands :rolleyes:

Racial abuse is just that, abusing someone because of their racial heritage.

ryan101

userod wrote: »

This sounds like some Fight Club version of workplace bullying. Where do you find all this behaviour? I've been working for years and never seen anything like this. Are you out looking for it?People looking for trouble will find it.

Yes, the place where I saw it done was indeed the workplace version of Fight Club, that's a good analogy, it was a very toxic workplace. The people I seen it done to certainly were not looking for it, in fact they were excellent at their job, that was part of the problem and probably one of the reasons they were targeted. One of the prime purposes of workplace bullying is to hide incompetency, and envy of others ability.

userod wrote: »

I get along with most people in the workplace and we often pull the p*ss out of each other. If someone wants to go home sobbing that this is 'workplace bullying' then that's due to their own issues I would say.

That's not workplace bullying, but it is often used to hide a part of it.
No, the targets of bullying don't "bring it upon themselves", that would in fact be bullying propaganda.
Out of interest, what about someone who doesn't want 'the piss pulled out of them' at their work ?
Not really conductive to a very professional environment. I've never seen much good come from it in the long term.

The whole point here is constantly calling someone Paddy, spud, potatoes, etc. can sometimes just be innocent craic, or something else, you have to be able to tell the difference, yet the differentiation is not being made on this thread.

DubVelo

Chinasea wrote: »

I take it you have not, that is in the last 25 years or so.

Yes, a lot, this century.

Sofaspud

I live in Wales. I'm a potato-loving drunk, and they're all sheep shaggers. No offence given, none taken.

Son Of A Vidic

coolbeans wrote: »

I've a lot of cause to be the in the UK at the moment where I interact with lots of Englanders

WTF is an Englander? Let me guess, you're German and you're part of a new Nazi fifth column planning Operation Sea Lion 2.

pillphil

I believe it's one of these.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=90303788&postcount=132

Sand

I've spent several months in the UK (London) on work and fully expected I'd get at least one drunken random stranger having a go on a night out. Afterall, the IRA was bombing London in 1996, not 1796. And then there was Boyzone and Westlife. In the event - nothing. Not a single "oirish" comment made in work or out of it, sober or drunk, in cosmopolitan areas or in a local pub we frequented.

So your experience is unusual at least. The context as others have said is important - if its banter, its banter. If it makes you feel uncomfortable then maybe its not banter. You'll quickly learn if they are really your friends if they are not concerned if it makes you uncomfortable or not.

The most common English attitude to Ireland sways between bemused benevolence to disinterest from what I've seen. The inverse is not true so often. I do remember one English lad, puzzled and upset by the accumulated aggro he got in various bars in Dublin "What do they teach you guys in school that makes you hate us so much?" to which I could only laugh and reply "History".

Tail Docker

Sand wrote: »

I've spent several months in the UK (London) on work and fully expected I'd get at least one drunken random stranger having a go on a night out. Afterall, the IRA was bombing London in 1996, not 1796. And then there was Boyzone and Westlife. In the event - nothing. Not a single "oirish" comment made in work or out of it, sober or drunk, in cosmopolitan areas or in a local pub we frequented.

So your experience is unusual at least. The context as others have said is important - if its banter, its banter. If it makes you feel uncomfortable then maybe its not banter. You'll quickly learn if they are really your friends if they are not concerned if it makes you uncomfortable or not.

The most common English attitude to Ireland sways between bemused benevolence to disinterest from what I've seen. The inverse is not true so often. I do remember one English lad, puzzled and upset by the accumulated aggro he got in various bars in Dublin "What do they teach you guys in school that makes you hate us so much?" to which I could only laugh and reply "History".

That's London - it's where the UK keep the clever, civilised people. The rest get stuck in dormitory towns like, erm, everywhere else in England. It is still 1985 in all those places.

Shakespeare's Sister

Chinasea wrote: »

Frankly I don't believe the OP. Another wind up Brit bashing thread. Do something useful mate.

But the OP is saying they don't mind it and consider it to be just messing.

sneakyST

Tail Docker wrote: »

That's London - it's where the UK keep the clever, civilised people. The rest get stuck in dormitory towns like, erm, everywhere else in England. It is still 1985 in all those places.

Probably some truth in that. I've lived in the south for 5 years and in one particular job potatoes and other oirish jibes were common or pretending to not understand what you say. I wasn't offended ...... It just gets annoying after a bit, energy sapping even, to have to retort with witty responses.

What really annoys me is when you meet someone for the first time and they start immediately taking about the troubles.

awec

coolbeans wrote: »

I've a lot of cause to be the in the UK at the moment where I interact with lots of Englanders on a daily basis. People are generally friendly and there's lots of push and shove banter when I deal with colleagues. I get called paddy, spud and people often shout "potatoes" in my wake. None of this bothers me in the slightest.
However, when I told an Irish friend this his eyes lït up with astonishment and fury. He tells me that I'm the subject of racist abuse and that I should report it. I think that's an absurd notion. Thoughts?

Tell your friend that you're more than capable of thinking for yourself and that he doesn't need to tell you when you should be offended.

fryup

nullzero wrote: »

All a bit of fun I would have guessed. Unless it is Jim Davidson saying it to you.

in fairness he does a good irish accent....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnLRpZgcUbY

Tail Docker

I think a lot of Irish people, i.e people born and raised in Ireland might have a slightly innocent take on this. The less palatable side to this is that many, many English people actually believe that to be Irish is to be a bit slow, fairly yokelly and actually fairly dim. We're seen as being backward, parochial and a bunch of bog-trotters. That's the blunt truth of it.

So, while they might come across as "only messing matey" and "just having a laff" the fact is, they reckon you're a bogger spud munching dim fecker all the better to have the pi55 taken. The fact your average Irish person would buy and sell your average English person is lost on them - so, when you're "only messingly" called a "paddy", it's not a term of endearment, it's them condescending to you. And, to me, if you don't "get" that, maybe you deserve to be called "paddy" by them. Me, they can fcuk right off and use my name - I lived there long enough, I know their real attitude to the Irish.

fryup

Tail Docker wrote: »

many English people actually believe that to be Irish is to be a bit slow, fairly yokelly and actually fairly dim. We're seen as being backward, parochial and a bunch of bog-trotters. That's the blunt truth of it.

well this sort of thing doesn't help

bumper234

Tail Docker wrote: »

I think a lot of Irish people, i.e people born and raised in Ireland might have a slightly innocent take on this. The less palatable side to this is that many, many English people actually believe that to be Irish is to be a bit slow, fairly yokelly and actually fairly dim. We're seen as being backward, parochial and a bunch of bog-trotters. That's the blunt truth of it.

So, while they might come across as "only messing matey" and "just having a laff" the fact is, they reckon you're a bogger spud munching dim fecker all the better to have the pi55 taken. The fact your average Irish person would buy and sell your average English person is lost on them - so, when you're "only messingly" called a "paddy", it's not a term of endearment, it's them condescending to you. And, to me, if you don't "get" that, maybe you deserve to be called "paddy" by them. Me, they can fcuk right off and use my name - I lived there long enough, I know their real attitude to the Irish.

What utter tripe.

Tail Docker

bumper234 wrote: »

What utter tripe.

You have also conveniently overlooked the old "no blacks or irish" attitude there Buddy. Or was that imaginary too?

bumper234

Tail Docker wrote: »

You have also conveniently overlooked the old "no blacks or irish" attitude there Buddy. Or was that imaginary too?

Jesus yeah lets quote what the idiots said in the 60's and 70's and drag all that **** up. Stick to one account m8 because it's getting harder to keep track of the idiotic bollox you post every time you create new accounts :rolleyes:

Tail Docker

bumper234 wrote: »

Jesus yeah lets quote what the idiots said in the 60's and 70's and drag all that **** up. Stick to one account m8 because it's getting harder to keep track of the idiotic bollox you post every time you create new accounts :rolleyes:

Happily, you stick with the same old one, so it's easy to keep track of yours. Anyway, Which idiots? The English ones? The ones that keep on calling me and the people that work with me "the fcuking paddies" when we're supposed to be out of earshot? I'm over there every few weeks, and I lived there for 12 years, feck it, I was born there. But sure, you probably know better than me, what with you being so bright and all that. Do they still call the brown people "pakis" when no-ones looking, or is that a myth too?

bumper234

Tail Docker wrote: »

Happily, you stick with the same old one, so it's easy to keep track of yours. Anyway, Which idiots? The English ones? The ones that keep on calling me and the people that work with me "the fcuking paddies" when we're supposed to be out of earshot? I'm over there every few weeks, and I lived there for 12 years, feck it, I was born there. But sure, you probably know better than me, what with you being so bright and all that. Do they still call the brown people "pakis" when no-ones looking, or is that a myth too?

Yup just like the Irish call the Chinese chinks, Jackie chan, tiddley winks.....how about the abuse the Polish get here and lets not even start on the Roma/Romanians but sure it's only the poor Irish that have to face that right :rolleyes:

Tail Docker

bumper234 wrote: »

Yup just like the Irish call the Chinese chinks, Jackie chan, tiddley winks.....how about the abuse the Polish get here and lets not even start on the Roma/Romanians but sure it's only the poor Irish that have to face that right :rolleyes:

No, not at all. This is a thread about being called "paddy" and whether people find that offensive or not. It's not about all the others Bumpy, they can have their own thread. This is the "Paddy" thread. And being that this is Boards, a forum, people have opinions - thats a word for "what they think, themselves" -I gave mine, you can give yours, someone else can give theirs. Hope that clears it up for you, big wink and smile - still no smilies.

Deank

Tail Docker wrote: »

No, not at all. This is a thread about being called "paddy" and whether people find that offensive or not. It's not about all the others Bumpy, they can have their own thread. This is the "Paddy" thread. And being that this is Boards, a forum, people have opinions - thats a word for "what they think, themselves" -I gave mine, you can give yours, someone else can give theirs. Hope that clears it up for you, big wink and smile - still no smilies.

What about people slagging Irish when they are orange, can't stand that, upsets me terribly, Irish and orange, you don't stand a chance......

Tail Docker

Deank wrote: »

What about people slagging Irish when they are orange, can't stand that, upsets me terribly, Irish and orange, you don't stand a chance......

Not a bit - there's a special place reserved in the pantheon of insults for people who drive a clapped out hyundai "soft-roader" too.

Deank

Tail Docker wrote: »

Not a bit - there's a special place reserved in the pantheon of insults for people who drive a clapped out hyundai "soft-roader" too.

No idea what you're on about, Hyundai are you saying the Koreans are clapped out? No need for "Insults" that's just being rude.

Tail Docker

Jasus, next I'll be calling you a paddy. How will you survive??

Fratton Fred

Tail Docker wrote: »

I think a lot of Irish people, i.e people born and raised in Ireland might have a slightly innocent take on this. The less palatable side to this is that many, many English people actually believe that to be Irish is to be a bit slow, fairly yokelly and actually fairly dim. We're seen as being backward, parochial and a bunch of bog-trotters. That's the blunt truth of it.

So, while they might come across as "only messing matey" and "just having a laff" the fact is, they reckon you're a bogger spud munching dim fecker all the better to have the pi55 taken. The fact your average Irish person would buy and sell your average English person is lost on them - so, when you're "only messingly" called a "paddy", it's not a term of endearment, it's them condescending to you. And, to me, if you don't "get" that, maybe you deserve to be called "paddy" by them. Me, they can fcuk right off and use my name - I lived there long enough, I know their real attitude to the Irish.

You're mistaken. It's their attitude to you, which isn't that surprising.

PLL

Just start singing 'toora loora loora loo, they're looking for monkeys up at the zoo, if i had a face like you, i'd join the british army'

I jest.

My dad moved to England in the late 80's with lots of other Irish looking for work, I was born soon after and grew up hearing tans take the piss out of the Irish. The Irish seemed to take it as a joke, just laughed at them, but at the same time the Irish never really gave a f*ck about any opinion the English had and they just stuck together.. the ones that never moved home still do to this day.

However, as other posters have mentioned if the Irish here did that to foreigners here there would be hell.

Fratton Fred

What's a tan?

Tail Docker

Fratton Fred wrote: »

You're mistaken. It's their attitude to you, which isn't that surprising.

Doubtful, but whatever floats your goat.

Aongus Von Bismarck

I've never found the English to be anything but pleasant and respectful in their dealing with me. I suppose, my interactions with them are generally at board meetings rather than out of the back of a clapped out van, so I'm probably interacting with a different type of client.

ryan101

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I've never found the English to be anything but pleasant and respectful in their dealing with me. I suppose, my interactions with them are generally at board meetings rather than out of the back of a clapped out van, so I'm probably interacting with a different type of client.

In my experience, the toffs and the middle classes in England generally like the Irish for some reason.
Overall the Irish are liked in the UK, especially in recent years and believe it or not especially after the Queen got such a good reception here.
I've noticed a major improvement in UK/Irish relations since, and long may it continue, as it's in our financial interest.
There's a lot of money be made from and in UK business for Irish people.

Aongus Von Bismarck

Fratton Fred wrote: »

What's a tan?

Its a derogatory term for English people. Generally used by the type of person who has an Irish Facebook name, but can't speak Irish. Hates all things Engish, except their soccer league which they follow with great passion from the pub on a Sunday.

Tail Docker

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I've never found the English to be anything but pleasant and respectful in their dealing with me. I suppose, my interactions with them are generally at board meetings rather than out of the back of a clapped out van, so I'm probably interacting with a different type of client.

Board meetings? Sounds like a good place to find a plank. Delighted you like it there, I do too. Just took a day or two to establish who was Boss, after that, all was g. Big wink - no smilies yet.

Aongus Von Bismarck

ryan101 wrote: »

In my experience, the toffs and the middle classes in England generally like the Irish for some reason.

I suppose they would have had a lot of extended families here traditionally. It wasn't long ago that their cousins would have been living in 'the big houses' dotted around the island.

Legs.Eleven

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I've never found the English to be anything but pleasant and respectful in their dealing with me. I suppose, my interactions with them are generally at board meetings rather than out of the back of a clapped out van, so I'm probably interacting with a different type of client.

You're some spoofer!

Aongus Von Bismarck

Tail Docker wrote: »

Board meetings? Sounds like a good place to find a plank. Delighted you like it there, I do too. Just took a day or two to establish who was Boss, after that, all was g. Big wink - no smilies yet.

What the hell are you talking about? Are you drunk?

ryan101

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I suppose they would have had a lot of extended families here traditionally. It wasn't long ago that their cousins would have been living in 'the big houses' dotted around the island.

True, and no matter what some people say there were some very decent big house families as well as bad.

Aongus Von Bismarck

ryan101 wrote: »

True, and no matter what some people say there were some very decent big house families as well as bad.

Very true, their contribution to arts, culture, sports, higher education etc. got well glossed over in the subsequent republican revisionism of the history texts.

LordSutch

ryan101 wrote: »

Overall the Irish are liked in the UK, especially in recent years and believe it or not especially after the Queen got such a good reception here.
I've noticed a major improvement in UK/Irish relations since, and long may it continue, as it's in our financial interest.
There's a lot of money be made from and in UK business for Irish people.

What really annoys me is the total confusion by so many Irish people as to what the UK is . . .

So many people automatically confuse England with 'the UK'.

England is not the UK, and the UK is not England.

Mini rant over, deep breath and relax )

ryan101

LordSutch wrote: »

What really annoys me is the total confusion by so many Irish people as to what the UK is . . .

So many people automatically confuse England with 'the UK'.

England is not the UK, and the UK is not England.

Mini rant over, deep breath and relax )

True, or perhaps they just couldn't be arsed typing England instead of UK

questionmark?

LordSutch wrote: »

What really annoys me is the total confusion by so many Irish people as to what the UK is . . .

So many people automatically confuse England with 'the UK'.

England is not the UK, and the UK is not England.

Mini rant over, deep breath and relax )

Bit like so many people in the UK not known the differance between Northern Ireland and 'Southern' Ireland. Jasus one thing that drives me mad is people asking am I from 'Southern' Ireland.