Spring lamb prices

Robson99

kk.man wrote: »

Today UK dead weight price equivalent to 6.35e and rising.

I take it they should be worth that at least here so.
Bit like GME shares... let's hope it rockets

Young95

Any quotes lads ?

Robson99

Anyone any update on this week's prices?

dodo mommy

Got 6.30 in kildare yesterday, was hoping for more but apparently it was packed out with lambs!

memorystick

Watching Roscrea here. I thought they were better.
48kg E128
58kg E144
51kg E140
37kg E86
58kg E140
49kg E134

Kevhog1988

memorystick wrote: »

Watching Roscrea here. I thought they were better.
48kg E128
58kg E144
51kg E140
37kg E86
58kg E140
49kg E134

Can you see a catalogue to see if there ram or ewe lambs?

memorystick

I can't see it. There seems to be a more lively trade in Enniscorthy.

wrangler

memorystick wrote: »

Watching Roscrea here. I thought they were better.
48kg E128
58kg E144
51kg E140
37kg E86
58kg E140
49kg E134

I'd say the KO is on the floor due to bad weather

OneMan37

memorystick wrote: »

Watching Roscrea here. I thought they were better.
48kg E128
58kg E144
51kg E140
37kg E86
58kg E140
49kg E134

Not as good as I was told. I’ve 40 Hilltex ewe lambs about 38 to 42kg but think I will run them on to the summer at these prices.

Green farmer

OneMan37 wrote: »

Not as good as I was told. I’ve 40 Hilltex ewe lambs about 38 to 42kg but think I will run them on to the summer at these prices.

Alot of lads the same. If it goes high enough they'll sell otherwise, they'll hold on to sell as breeding hoggets in autumn.

Duke92

memorystick wrote: »

Watching Roscrea here. I thought they were better.
48kg E128
58kg E144
51kg E140
37kg E86
58kg E140
49kg E134

Great money for sheep this time of year

memorystick

Green farmer wrote: »

Alot of lads the same. If it goes high enough they'll sell otherwise, they'll hold on to sell as breeding hoggets in autumn.

Is there money in buying the right ewe lamb in the fall and selling them the following summer for breeding?

Green farmer

memorystick wrote: »

Is there money in buying the right ewe lamb in the fall and selling them the following summer for breeding?

Never did it myself, but I assume there is. Some lads specialise in it.

Dickie10

often thought of it, but there would be no more money in it than killing the hogget in the factory in April instead of carrying through to August, price of keeping another head to feed, shear, click/dip. never seen a too bad price for hoggets in april. it will be through the roof this year

kk.man

memorystick wrote: »

Watching Roscrea here. I thought they were better.
48kg E128
58kg E144
51kg E140
37kg E86
58kg E140
49kg E134

There is a clear message in the above prices keep them to heavy weights. Don't sell.

49kg only 134..58kg 140 plus.. Pity guy who sold 48kgs at 128...if a lamb can go to 48kgs it would not take that much to get a few extra kgs.

Butchers and wholesalers must be paying a premium.

Dinzee Conlee

Dickie10 wrote: »

often thought of it, but there would be no more money in it than killing the hogget in the factory in April instead of carrying through to August, price of keeping another head to feed, shear, click/dip. never seen a too bad price for hoggets in april. it will be through the roof this year

Would kinda agree with you Dickie - keep
hoggets here to sell in August, but it’s as much to keep the grass down and myself occupied as anything else...

kk.man

memorystick wrote: »

Is there money in buying the right ewe lamb in the fall and selling them the following summer for breeding?

I have done it for the last 2 years. Happy with 2019 and extremely happy with 2020. I'm sure they will fall at some stage but I'm banking on northern farmers being unable/hassle importing breeding sheep from the 'mainland' in order to sustain my enterprise abit longer.

Bleating Lamb

kk.man wrote: »

There is a clear message in the above prices keep them to heavy weights. Don't sell.

49kg only 134..58kg 140 plus.. Pity guy who sold 48kgs at 128...if a lamb can go to 48kgs it would not take that much to get a few extra kgs.

Butchers and wholesalers must be paying a premium.

Was watching Manorhamilton this evening,heavier lambs getting best prices but a lot of the 'fat' lambs were x bred and horned lambs so wouldn't have great bodies for killing out.
saw a few mad prices for lighter lambs....bunch of 28kg xbred ewe lambs 82 euro!

OneMan37

kk.man wrote: »

I have done it for the last 2 years. Happy with 2019 and extremely happy with 2020. I'm sure they will fall at some stage but I'm banking on northern farmers being unable/hassle importing breeding sheep from the 'mainland' in order to sustain my enterprise abit longer.

It’s a good enough enterprise when prices are good. I mean you could keep 2 ewe lambs at least for every ewe you keep.

Albert Johnson

Green farmer wrote: »

Alot of lads the same. If it goes high enough they'll sell otherwise, they'll hold on to sell as breeding hoggets in autumn.

That strategy doesn't always pay off though. I think it was 2 year's ago that hoggets briefly topped €145 in May, I remember thinking that they'll kill good and bad at that money and breeding hoggets will be very dear in the backend. The total opposite occurred as lad's got fond of them and thought there'd be a scarcity in autumn.

Fast forward a few month's and you'd buy the very best of sheep at €200 and they'd have to be smashers to get it. The average hogget was €120-€160 (marginally more than they'd have clinched 3 or 4 months earlier) and poorer quality stock were sold as low as €80 in cases. A local man with a good number of hoggets refused €5.70 a kg in early May of that year and said he'd sell no sheep less than €6. He held out until July and eventually cleared them all for €90 each, the mentality that "they'll be dearer next week" is a dangerous one to have in a good trade.

paddysdream

paddysdream wrote: »

Just home from factory with the last of the 2020 ones.

"Dust of meal" me bo**ocks.They were on meal since middle November.Admittedly the ones today probably didn't start eating for a couple of weeks and were small enough (a year where the weak ones survived in higher proportion than other years and a few belonging to ewe lambs).
Still would have eaten a fair bit from then till now.Most likely a kilo a day in the end and approx. 40kgs/head in total.

Big difference between lambs like this and throwing a bit to a few 45kg lambs in August on a lightly stocked farm with good grass to "top the mart" and be sure and hit top weight regardless of cost/profit.

At 6:30 today would think what I sent should average about €120 ie 19.5 kg carcass.
Not hectic return but then again better than looking at a dead one.Years where you would be happy to see €80 for the same lambs and costings about something similar.

Just an update on the "dross" I killed last Friday.
All ewe lambs on meal ad lib for a while (8/10 weeks plus)
Live weight ?kg to 48kg.Lame ones,sick ones etc etc.All bar a few fleshy enough and they were never gonna improve at this stage.
Killed 23.5 kg back to 11.1 kg.
1 O grade unsurprisingly, 2 R grades and rest U grade.
Averaged 114 euro but 2 lightest ones brought average price down as 11.1 kg and 13.6 kg ie 70 euro and 85 euro respectively.
Still better than paying 30 notes out in the knackers.
Rest would average 130 euro or so.

Happy enough as like I said most years the likes of them (if they lived) would be hard pressed to make 80/90 euro on average

paddysdream

Albert Johnson wrote: »

That strategy doesn't always pay off though. I think it was 2 year's ago that hoggets briefly topped €145 in May, I remember thinking that they'll kill good and bad at that money and breeding hoggets will be very dear in the backend. The total opposite occurred as lad's got fond of them and thought there'd be a scarcity in autumn.

Fast forward a few month's and you'd buy the very best of sheep at €200 and they'd have to be smashers to get it. The average hogget was €120-€160 (marginally more than they'd have clinched 3 or 4 months earlier) and poorer quality stock were sold as low as €80 in cases. A local man with a good number of hoggets refused €5.70 a kg in early May of that year and said he'd sell no sheep less than €6. He held out until July and eventually cleared them all for €90 each, the mentality that "they'll be dearer next week" is a dangerous one to have in a good trade.

Think its a bit like the show weanling scene ie top price in the ring /on the day is all that matters regardless of the cost or profit/loss involved.

Lads at it around here a long time but getting scarcer every year.Was a popular thing 20 years ago when beet tops were freely available and sub was going.
But paying 120/130/140 for nice headed ewe lambs in August to October and selling them as dry hoggets the following August at 170/180 is not a recipe for making money.
An odd year hogget trade can be exceptional but that usually sees the ewe lamb up in price as well.
Carrying a dry sheep for almost a year is not cost free.

charolais0153

Albert Johnson wrote: »

That strategy doesn't always pay off though. I think it was 2 year's ago that hoggets briefly topped €145 in May, I remember thinking that they'll kill good and bad at that money and breeding hoggets will be very dear in the backend. The total opposite occurred as lad's got fond of them and thought there'd be a scarcity in autumn.

Fast forward a few month's and you'd buy the very best of sheep at €200 and they'd have to be smashers to get it. The average hogget was €120-€160 (marginally more than they'd have clinched 3 or 4 months earlier) and poorer quality stock were sold as low as €80 in cases. A local man with a good number of hoggets refused €5.70 a kg in early May of that year and said he'd sell no sheep less than €6. He held out until July and eventually cleared them all for €90 each, the mentality that "they'll be dearer next week" is a dangerous one to have in a good trade.

You can't make money if your not selling stock

OneMan37

OneMan37 wrote: »

It’s a good enough enterprise when prices are good. I mean you could keep 2 ewe lambs at least for every ewe you keep.

Always taught myself,such a set up,would be best served by shearing the ewe lambs between xmas and new years

They would be fine looking sheep,come the following september then

wrangler

Deleted User wrote: »

Always taught myself,such a set up,would be best served by shearing the ewe lambs between xmas and new years

They would be fine looking sheep,come the following september then

I'd imagine they'd be too wooley, i wonder when do the professional hogget sellers shear them...... early may

Dinzee Conlee

Deleted User wrote: »

Always taught myself,such a set up,would be best served by shearing the ewe lambs between xmas and new years

They would be fine looking sheep,come the following september then

I would have said that would be a pain - would most people have sheared their flock by then, so buying hoggets that still have to be shorn would be just be hassle?

wrangler wrote: »

I'd imagine they'd be too wooley, i wonder when do the professional hogget sellers shear them...... early may

I am not a professional, but we shear around June bank holiday weekend, same as we always have...
Earlier would be better, but I prefer to do it then

kk.man

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Always taught myself,such a set up,would be best served by shearing the ewe lambs between xmas and new years

They would be fine looking sheep,come the following september then

As Wrangler said they be too wooly. Shear them too late and not enough wool for August early September sales. If they don't have enough they look smaller than other ewes the same weight.

I shear before the rush ie late April early May depends on the weather. Hoggets with no lambs are in no danger being shorn then. It gives a nice bit of wool on their backs for the show season.

kk.man

Any quotes out there folks?

Dickie10

charolais0153 wrote: »

You can't make money if your not selling stock

as the bookies shout "let them in and let them out"

dunnacoirbe50

What is the latest factory quotes this week? 6.40? thanks