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Spring lamb prices

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    epfff wrote: »
    Ballyhaunis.
    I drive by Athleague to get there. Its very rare I even phone athleague for a quote they always the lowest quote for me

    In fairness, they all do that, if they think they can get away with it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Fat lambs in kilkenny mart made up to 158e today. Not many lots however.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Sold today
    44kg €134 EL cost €63
    47kg €149 EL cost €60
    50kg €145 W cost €58
    Great price for a mixed bag of sheep. Delighted


  • Registered Users Posts: 647 ✭✭✭k mac


    Have ewe lambs i bought as stores last october. If i was intending bringing them to the factory in the next few weeks when would they be classes as hoggets and once they were were would it affect the price. Like with cattle you have the cards that has a DOB but i presume these sheep were march or april born so how would the factory know what age they were.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭kk.man


    k mac wrote: »
    Have ewe lambs i bought as stores last october. If i was intending bringing them to the factory in the next few weeks when would they be classes as hoggets and once they were were would it affect the price. Like with cattle you have the cards that has a DOB but i presume these sheep were march or april born so how would the factory know what age they were.

    They are hoggets end of story. We still call them lambs out of habit. The factory will know the difference between spring lamb (lamb born this spring) and hoggets.
    The price gap will not be huge and they will quote separate.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 647 ✭✭✭k mac


    kk.man wrote: »
    They are hoggets end of story. We still call them lambs out of habit. The factory will know the difference between spring lamb (lamb born this spring) and hoggets.
    The price gap will not be huge and they will quote separate.

    Thanks. Is the price paid the same. Have a few around the 40kg mark, even though they had plenty of grass they didnt put on much weight. Have upped the meal but they are wasting alot leaving it behind getting wet in the trough


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    k mac wrote: »
    Thanks. Is the price paid the same. Have a few around the 40kg mark, even though they had plenty of grass they didnt put on much weight. Have upped the meal but they are wasting alot leaving it behind getting wet in the trough

    Hogget price is paid to 23kg now

    Spring lamb wont really be out til April / May, and it will be a higher price, but the factory only pay to 19kg initially...

    If your lambs are only 40kg, you might be as well off selling at the mart? Or else hold onto them until they are 45+ at least. I would say you still have another 2 months before the hogget price will be impacted by spring lambs...

    A lot more of mine are struggling this year than I'd like, so I feel your pain... Are they dosed for fluke?


  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    k mac wrote: »
    Have ewe lambs i bought as stores last october. If i was intending bringing them to the factory in the next few weeks when would they be classes as hoggets and once they were were would it affect the price. Like with cattle you have the cards that has a DOB but i presume these sheep were march or april born so how would the factory know what age they were.

    If they start getting their 2nd teeth,there hoggots,can pass as lambs until.then

    (This is checked in factories)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,782 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    k mac wrote: »
    Have ewe lambs i bought as stores last october. If i was intending bringing them to the factory in the next few weeks when would they be classes as hoggets and once they were were would it affect the price. Like with cattle you have the cards that has a DOB but i presume these sheep were march or april born so how would the factory know what age they were.

    You’ll get lamb price until the 2021 spring lambs start coming fit for the factory

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    If they start getting their 2nd teeth,there hoggots,can pass as lambs until.then

    (This is checked in factories)


    Teeth start coming anytime from 12 -15 month, but varies from sheep to sheep.it ain't a exact science. Often sold hoggets up to may without any issue .


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  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Teeth start coming anytime from 12 -15 month, but varies from sheep to sheep.it ain't a exact science. Often sold hoggets up to may without any issue .

    They do check in factories and used dock for it,once upon a time.....i remember a butcher running his finger inside mouth checking ones here,years ago

    (They also used dock at factories for poorly castrated lambs,with one stone still inside)


  • Registered Users Posts: 647 ✭✭✭k mac


    Hogget price is paid to 23kg now

    Spring lamb wont really be out til April / May, and it will be a higher price, but the factory only pay to 19kg initially...

    If your lambs are only 40kg, you might be as well off selling at the mart? Or else hold onto them until they are 45+ at least. I would say you still have another 2 months before the hogget price will be impacted by spring lambs...

    A lot more of mine are struggling this year than I'd like, so I feel your pain... Are they dosed for fluke?

    Yes dosed mid December


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,826 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    What's a 2 year old Suffolk ewe, in single lamb to a Suffolk roughly worth.

    Tks


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    They do check in factories and used dock for it,once upon a time.....i remember a butcher running his finger inside mouth checking ones here,years ago

    (They also used dock at factories for poorly castrated lambs,with one stone still inside)

    Yes, department vets check in factories and will dock you, if their breaking through. You can check yourself as well before sending away. You'll see the 2 front bottom adult teeth erupting through. Very easy to spot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    Danzy wrote: »
    What's a 2 year old Suffolk ewe, in single lamb to a Suffolk roughly worth.

    Tks

    200?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Any factory prices for Hoggets this week?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,298 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Going by mart prices over the weekend the must be up to 6.50


  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭downtown3858


    Heard 6.70 this morning


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭memorystick


    It’s great to see the poor relation of farming getting a good price at last.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    $6:60 in ICM tomorrow. brought another 28, average weight live 48kg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    $6:60 in ICM tomorrow. brought another 28, average weight live 48kg

    there must be very few left now with the savage prices. Looks like spring lamb prices will be very good this year?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,826 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    It’s great to see the poor relation of farming getting a good price at last.

    Hard to know who is the poor relation now.

    Some amount of new entrants to sheep, lot of beef Lads adding a few sheep to the mix.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,623 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Danzy wrote: »
    Hard to know who is the poor relation now.

    Some amount of new entrants to sheep, lot of beef Lads adding a few sheep to the mix.

    Grazing lambs or lambing ewes?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,826 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Grazing lambs or lambing ewes?

    Lambing Ewes in most cases.

    Though I can think of several new flocks where I am not sure.

    I bought 15 Ewes myself. Suffolk cross.

    I won't be changing the market for a good bit.

    I have the sheds, an old haggard Field that would suit in the winter and the ground.


  • Registered Users Posts: 351 ✭✭Duke92


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    $6:60 in ICM tomorrow. brought another 28, average weight live 48kg

    Don’t know which icm your going to but 6:70 in Wexford tomorrow


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,623 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Danzy wrote: »
    Lambing Ewes in most cases.

    Though I can think of several new flocks where I am not sure.

    I bought 15 Ewes myself. Suffolk cross.

    I won't be changing the market for a good bit.

    I have the sheds, an old haggard Field that would suit in the winter and the ground.

    Best of luck with them. What are they in lamb to?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    would there be a chance lads coming into it will ruin it for the rest? whats too many ewes for ireland? not all beef men will have sheep, some hate the sight of them, and an awful lot of young beef farmers will go dairying i would think, id say could be a lot out of them again in 2 years!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭lab man


    I'm from west Clare the amount of fellas with 10 and 15 sheep around here would shock you where there never was a sheep in 100 years and most haven't a clue about them either


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,623 ✭✭✭White Clover


    lab man wrote: »
    I'm from west Clare the amount of fellas with 10 and 15 sheep around here would shock you where there never was a sheep in 100 years and most haven't a clue about them either

    Are these sheep recent purchases, Lab man?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,298 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Only buy stores at the back end here. Wouldn't dream of getting into ewes....the hassle of it...
    Id say lockdown and poor beef prices have a bit to do with more lads getting into it


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