Spring lamb prices

Cran

eorna wrote: »

When feeding ad lib i always wonder if its better to let them off at lets say 20.5kg DW or make real heavy to kill to kill out as close to 22 as posible..??

Depends on the lamb and condition, would it get there quick or is it short small good conditioned lamb that would take time to get there?

weatherbyfoxer

Killed 10 chx and suffolkx lambs today @475c/kg average live weight 46kg average dead weight 18.66...on ad lib meal 3 weeks..quiet dissatisfied to be honest

Green farmer

weatherbyfoxer wrote: »

Killed 10 chx and suffolkx lambs today @475c/kg average live weight 46kg average dead weight 18.66...on ad lib meal 3 weeks..quiet dissatisfied to be honest

More proof that we're all in the same boat .going to mineral drench mine again at the weekend. Won't do them any harm

rangler1

weatherbyfoxer wrote: »

Killed 10 chx and suffolkx lambs today @475c/kg average live weight 46kg average dead weight 18.66...on ad lib meal 3 weeks..quiet dissatisfied to be honest

Worms?????
we've had to dose here every 4 or 5 weeks, lambs at this stage of the year should last longer without one, also did a test for a neighbour that used zolvix.....its looking as if it wasn't as effective as it should've been either.
Could be your scales too,
what was their fat grade, they'd have to be underfleshed for that KO

Username John

rangler1 wrote: »

Worms?????
we've had to dose here every 4 or 5 weeks, lambs at this stage of the year should last longer without one, also did a test for a neighbour that used zolvix.....its looking as if it wasn't as effective as it should've been either.
Could be your scales too,
what was their fat grade, they'd have to be underfleshed for that KO

Would agree with the worms statement. I took my eye off the ball there end august / start September - we had plenty grass, and I assumed lambs were putting on weight... They were on reseeded ground, so some were a bit dirty but I put it down to the grass and the wet...
But they actually went backwards in that time
Dosed em and they came on again...

orm0nd

rangler1 wrote: »

Worms?????
we've had to dose here every 4 or 5 weeks, lambs at this stage of the year should last longer without one, also did a test for a neighbour that used zolvix.....its looking as if it wasn't as effective as it should've been either.
Could be your scales too,
what was their fat grade, they'd have to be underfleshed for that KO

Possibly not the the same person but was chatting to a man up your area, that was very disappointed with Zolvix as well.

Normally their count would be 3 to 600, but this came back as 3000, this man is also organic so re dosing and caught with treble withdrawal or other option sell normally.

Green farmer

That's worrying is that's breaking down. I use it as my quarantine dose and was expecting no issues with it until at least 10-15 years time

rangler1

orm0nd wrote: »

Possibly not the the same person but was chatting to a man up your area, that was very disappointed with Zolvix as well.

Normally their count would be 3 to 600, but this came back as 3000, this man is also organic so re dosing and caught with treble withdrawal or other option sell normally.

Probably the same, figures are similar any way, hope he made an error in the dosing, a bit early for it to be breaking down

adam14

430 base today in camolin. Absolute disaster.

sea12

adam14 wrote: »

430 base today in camolin. Absolute disaster.

Id say that's down to sterling collapsing to 90 pence v euro. Could get worse

paddysdream

orm0nd wrote: »

Possibly not the the same person but was chatting to a man up your area, that was very disappointed with Zolvix as well.

Normally their count would be 3 to 600, but this came back as 3000, this man is also organic so re dosing and caught with treble withdrawal or other option sell normally.

Tested lambs here today.
These were tested 17th August and showed 800 in one bunch and 50 in the other.Dosed with Noromectin and retested after 2 weeks.Both lots showed up clear.
Thought a few were getting a bit dirty and not thriving so tested again today.Results came back as 2000 in the lot that had 50 in first test and 4000 in lot that had 800 previous.
Would have expected a few but this was a surprise.In fairness most samples would have been from the "runniest" lambs but still.Highest figures I have ever had here.
Noromectin obv. worked in early September but would have expected a bit longer.

As regards lambs killing out,its a regular complaint with most people this year.40 to 42% seems to be the baseline even for those that normally have a much better kill out.
Sold the first of mine off meal last Monday at 4.80 and was rather disappointed with them.On ad lib 3 weeks and killed a little with 20kgs at 45kg plus liveweight.Fleshy enough but a poorish deadweight.Graded ok at 75%U and 25%R but thats no consolation.

adam14

sea12 wrote:

Id say that's down to sterling collapsing to 90 pence v euro. Could get worse

That's it exactly , prices on a downward trend. Future is bleak

weatherbyfoxer

rangler1 wrote: »

weatherbyfoxer wrote: »

Killed 10 chx and suffolkx lambs today @475c/kg average live weight 46kg average dead weight 18.66...on ad lib meal 3 weeks..quiet dissatisfied to be honest

Worms?????
we've had to dose here every 4 or 5 weeks, lambs at this stage of the year should last longer without one, also did a test for a neighbour that used zolvix.....its looking as if it wasn't as effective as it should've been either.
Could be your scales too,
what was their fat grade, they'd have to be underfleshed for that KO

3rd dose this year was 3 weeks ago..fats were 2s and 3s..

MD1983

Where do you get the worm testing done and what is the cost of same?

rangler1

MD1983 wrote: »

Where do you get the worm testing done and what is the cost of same?

We do our own testing here, but there's load of labs around doing it.
Heard good reports about
Paralab in portumna or
farmlab in Roscommon.

paddysdream

MD1983 wrote: »

Where do you get the worm testing done and what is the cost of same?

Local vet does it for me.Bring in sample(s) before 12 and have result that afternoon.Costs 10 euro per sample tested.
Usually have dung from 10/15 lambs in a sample.Use sealable freezer bags.
Well worth it as although dosing is cheap is most important to know that what you are using is actually working so always retest after 10/14 days depending on product used

rangler1

paddysdream wrote: »

Local vet does it for me.Bring in sample(s) before 12 and have result that afternoon.Costs 10 euro per sample tested.
Usually have dung from 10/15 lambs in a sample.Use sealable freezer bags.
Well worth it as although dosing is cheap is most important to know that what you are using is actually working so always retest after 10/14 days depending on product used

OH does it here for farmers around, takes a contribution for ''bothar'' and texts the result...takes about 15 - 20 mins.
Like you, we test ''equal sized'' samples from 15 - 20 lambs bulked together, we find that good enough. often individually tested runny lambs and they wouldn't be any different than the average, some even had less.

paddysdream

ICM quoting 4.70 for tomorrow and Wednesday.

razor8

paddysdream wrote: »

ICM quoting 4.70 for tomorrow and Wednesday.

with QA bonus on without?

paddysdream

razor8 wrote: »

with QA bonus on without?

Including QA bonus.Kepak and Kildare on similar as far as I know.

weatherbyfoxer

475 to 22kg for kildare....what weight are lad drafting at?...im thinking 48-50kgs

paddysdream

weatherbyfoxer wrote: »

475 to 22kg for kildare....what weight are lad drafting at?...im thinking 48-50kgs

To get anywhere near 22kg kill out most are finding that lambs would need to be 50kg plus even with meal.Poorer kill out this year has only seemed to have improved in the last 2 or 3 weeks with many.

charolais0153

paddysdream wrote: »

To get anywhere near 22kg kill out most are finding that lambs would need to be 50kg plus even with meal.Poorer kill out this year has only seemed to have improved in the last 2 or 3 weeks with many.

Yep 48+ I'd be thinking

charolais0153

rangler1 wrote: »

We do our own testing here, but there's load of labs around doing it.
Heard good reports about
Paralab in portumna or
farmlab in Roscommon.

Is that Like what lost covey did

Cran

rangler1 wrote: »

OH does it here for farmers around, takes a contribution for ''bothar'' and texts the result...takes about 15 - 20 mins.
Like you, we test ''equal sized'' samples from 15 - 20 lambs bulked together, we find that good enough. often individually tested runny lambs and they wouldn't be any different than the average, some even had less.

Much to it Rangler or is it fairly straight forward once you have gear?

rangler1

Cran wrote: »

Much to it Rangler or is it fairly straight forward once you have gear?

Being able to look in a microscope is what you need, I seem to be unable to do that, the rest is straightforward.
A poster on here came to us one night to see how it was done and seemed to have no problem reading the slides,

Link to Lost Coveys post
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=74128331

cattle man

paddysdream wrote: »

To get anywhere near 22kg kill out most are finding that lambs would need to be 50kg plus even with meal.Poorer kill out this year has only seemed to have improved in the last 2 or 3 weeks with many.

Killed lambs today 48-50kilos killed out 21.4kilos average
On meal 3 weeks all ram lambs

Green farmer

Any factory price updates ?

farming93

4.65 with QA in Camolin sent lambs there on Tuesday, base price was 4.35. Id say lads with big numbers are getting better prices?

AnFeirmeoir

Mountbellew last Saturday was terrible. No interest from buyers .. even for good lambs. Sold some 45kg lambs for 88 . Absolutely depressing.