Spring lamb prices

paddysdream

Green farmer wrote: »

Any quotes for this week ?

Went with lambs last night and more for tomorrow at 4.80.Seems to be the tops at the moment around here(south east).Maybe more going but haven't heard of anyone getting anything better recently.
Factories seem to be getting more than enough supplies at the moment and every time you ring all they are looking to do is to pull the price a bit.

Green farmer

Thanks, looks the go of it alright. have a batch going to the butcher this week. Have to keep the wheels turning.

arctictree

Sold a few of the runts that wouldn't put on weight in the mart this morning. 80 euro for 36
.5 kilos which isn't bad I think.

MD1983

any prices? heard from a neighbour that supplies are tightening

paddysdream

Tops seems to be 4.75 with a few on 4.70.Thats QA inclusive.Hear ICM are supposedly only paying 4.50 for anything that kills in excess of 25kgs.
Lambs seem to be getting scarcer but thats only natural this time of year.Any dear store lambs bought this year are a poor paying proposition at those prices.
Heavy lambs a poor enough trade in the marts around here.Buyers seem reluctant to pass much with 100 per head.

Dickie10

yeah ICM are only giving 4;50 for above 25kg. im getting 4:70 friday.

kk.man

Dickie10 wrote: »

yeah ICM are only giving 4;50 for above 25kg. im getting 4:70 friday.

That's a poor show giving the way sterling has gone plus hoggets have got to be getting tighter. Larry's take on the trade too...haven't heard of a cut for over weight sheep in a while.

paddysdream

kk.man wrote: »

That's a poor show giving the way sterling has gone plus hoggets have got to be getting tighter. Larry's take on the trade too...haven't heard of a cut for over weight sheep in a while.

Lots of complaints about overweight lambs in the last few weeks from a few factories.Anyone can have a few in a bunch esp. if you are trying to get full weight.But killing lambs averaging 25 plus kgs is not doing anyone any good.Producer is loosing money putting on surplus weight with no price increase and processor left with unsuitable carcasses.
Agree though the price is a poor start(end) to the year.Doesn't say a lot for the prospect of a good price for spring lamb as the hogget carryover now seems to drag onto May the last few years.

Willfarman

Is there a lot of lambs going to come on the market in a flush from lads grazing rape?

With no live export and the outrageous demise of the butchers there's only one buyer.

rangler1

Willfarman wrote: »

Is there a lot of lambs going to come on the market in a flush from lads grazing rape?

With no live export and the outrageous demise of the butchers there's only one buyer.

Very poor lambs around too, some lambs were just put to grass and have graduated from being 38kg store lambs to being 50kg stores, I really can't see any hope for some lambs I've seen going into lairage.
ICM were saying they can handle a small percentage overweight or short of flesh , but not what's being presented

Green farmer

Very hard to put up to €20 of meal into a lamb and have it finished right, just to be rewarded with €4-70 a kilo.

arctictree

I only got 99 euro for some lambs weighing 52.5kg only on grass. That was last Saturday. Should be getting more this time of year.

Green farmer

I read the icsa did a protest at low lamb prices in icm today. Well done for someone trying to do something about the disappointing prices .

paddysdream

http://www.farmersjournal.ie/icsa-to-protest-low-sheep-prices-249858

Apt slogan on dealer twitter page for the day that's in it.

https://twitter.com/IFJDealer

kk.man

Was quoted 4.70 imcl bonuses for the end of this week.

rangler1

Green farmer wrote: »

I read the icsa did a protest at low lamb prices in icm today. Well done for someone trying to do something about the disappointing prices .

As you know I did plenty of it, but standing at a factory gate is a waste of time......

orm0nd

rangler1 wrote: »

As you know I did plenty of it, but standing at a factory gate is a waste of time......

ronan delaney posted on twitter quotes up 10c.

rangler1

orm0nd wrote: »

ronan delaney posted on twitter quotes up 10c.

should be up a euro

orm0nd

rangler1 wrote: »

should be up a euro

will be lucky to see that for the springs, everybody is forecasting doom and gloom for 17

arctictree

arctictree wrote: »

I only got 99 euro for some lambs weighing 52.5kg only on grass. That was last Saturday. Should be getting more this time of year.

Same weight lambs today got €103

Green farmer

orm0nd wrote: »

ronan delaney posted on twitter quotes up 10c.

Any quotes for this week ?

kk.man

They are on the up...heard 4.80...mart manager in the south East rang me looking for heavy hoggets this morning says he has two new customers at the ring

MD1983

4.70 from kildare to 22.5kg

rangler1

At an IFA meeting last night, 4.80 seemed to be the run of it with some getting to 23.5.
Heard of a 500 inlamb ewe sale coming up and 1000 ewe farm converting to dairy, and that's only locally.
Sheep might come good yet

paddysdream

rangler1 wrote: »

At an IFA meeting last night, 4.80 seemed to be the run of it with some getting to 23.5.
Heard of a 500 inlamb ewe sale coming up and 1000 ewe farm converting to dairy, and that's only locally.
Sheep might come good yet

Maybe that auld protest did some good !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On a more serious note although any rise in price is welcome,feeding lambs for 4.80 a kilo at this time of year is a waste of time and money.Bad enough with your own lambs but it will put a good few off store lamb buying for the coming year.
Regarding cuts for very heavy lambs,had 2 in a bunch of stragglers last week (25.6kg,26.1kg,both ram lambs that never fleshed up despite being on ad lib) and wasn't cut.To be fair the rest averaged 21.9 with very little variation.
Think its "supposed" to be a new Northern buyer coming to a local mart looking for lambs 48 to 55kg.They were hard pressed to make much with 100 the last 2 weeks so today will tell a tale

Green farmer

Have a batch going to a butcher locally again this week. Happy to get some well needed money in, but know I'm a busy fool turning lambs out for €4-80 a kilo that are stuffed with meal. Here's hoping the Easter market helps to rebalance the books .

Willfarman

Green farmer wrote: »

Have a batch going to a butcher locally again this week. Happy to get some well needed money in, but know I'm a busy fool turning lambs out for €4-80 a kilo that are stuffed with meal. Here's hoping the Easter market helps to rebalance the books .

The Easter market is outdated teagasc bull****.. Consumer couldn't tell new season lamb from hogget and supermarkets want it for nothing for promotion .. Look to the Muslims festivals for increased demand lads!

paddysdream

Willfarman wrote: »

The Easter market is outdated teagasc bull****.. Consumer couldn't tell new season lamb from hogget and supermarkets want it for nothing for promotion .. Look to the Muslims festivals for increased demand lads!

Factories are switching over to spring lamb later and later every year.Hoggets are being killed into May the last few years and factories will not switch over to lamb until supplies are strong enough.
Maybe a market for a few early in the year but the demand has gone in the last few years.
Why try selling lamb at maybe 1 to 1.50 a kilo extra(to the farmer!!)when hogget can be bought cheaper.There seems to be no distinction between lamb and hogget any more.
Hard to see a big demand for early lamb which probably needs 7 a kilo to pay when last years can be bought at less than a fiver a kilo.

Willfarman

Truth be known, the late born and then spring fattened hogget is a superior product. Leaner more flavoursome and provided it gets a week to hang it is plenty tender. Forced early lamb tastes of nothing, pale opaqe fatty little chops..

Green farmer

Willfarman wrote: »

. Look to the Muslims festivals for increased demand lads!

When's the next big Muslim festival ?