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Spring lamb prices

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    #1322
    Willfarman
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    Green farmer wrote: »
    When's the next big Muslim festival ?

    July 10 end of Ramadan..


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    #1323
    Green farmer
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    €4-80 the go of it so lads ?


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    #1324
    Willfarman
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    Green farmer wrote: »
    €4-80 the go of it so lads ?

    4.70 is it here


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    #1325
    rangler1
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    Willfarman wrote: »
    4.70 is it here

    Yea, was surprised to see Kepak dropping the quotes 5c from the price last week....not a good omen


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    #1326
    Willfarman
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    rangler1 wrote: »
    Yea, was surprised to see Kepak dropping the quotes 5c from the price last week....not a good omen[/quote

    they are firmly in control.


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    #1327
    rangler1
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    Willfarman wrote: »
    rangler1 wrote: »
    Yea, was surprised to see Kepak dropping the quotes 5c from the price last week....not a good omen[/quote

    they are firmly in control.

    ICM are worse, They're not even quoting today....they're afraid they'll commit to too high a price I suppose


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    #1328
    Green farmer
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    "Pay peanuts and you'll get money's " is what comes to mind if they keep up this pricing stance, with their moaning about the quality of lambs being presented to them.


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    #1329
    rangler1
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    Green farmer wrote: »
    "Pay peanuts and you'll get money's " is what comes to mind if they keep up this pricing stance, with their moaning about the quality of lambs being presented to them.

    7000 more lambs and 2000 more ewes killed last week than the same week last year, so they can pick and choose


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    #1330
    Duke92
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    I heard there still paying €4:75


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    #1331
    rangler1
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    Ihear factories are trying to reduce weights, anyone getting this


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    #1332
    paddysdream
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    rangler1 wrote: »
    Ihear factories are trying to reduce weights, anyone getting this
    Heard that as well.Unsure though of its veracity.
    A lot still paying to 22.5 whilst the norm in previous years was up to 23.5 or more at this time.Is there a fear of a lot of sheep being held over waiting for a price increase and coming into very heavy weights?

    Kildare "supposedly" imposing a max price on lambs killing in excess of 23kgs of, I think,105 euro which would equate to less than 4.60 a kilo(at 23 kgs top weight).
    Was told by agent a couple of weeks ago that anything killing over 25 kgs in ICM would be priced at 4.50 to 22.5 ie max of 101.25 before deductions.


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    #1333
    Green farmer
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    You'd wonder is this a deliberate move to keep prices depressed as long as possible as there's a long run into Easter. When prices do rise , it take a lot of 10 cent rises to get to €5-50. Factories were determined last year not to see a repeat of the €6-50 being paid the year before.


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    #1334
    rangler1
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    Green farmer wrote: »
    You'd wonder is this a deliberate move to keep prices depressed as long as possible as there's a long run into Easter. When prices do rise , it take a lot of 10 cent rises to get to €5-50. Factories were determined last year not to see a repeat of the €6-50 being paid the year before.

    Huge carryover of hoggets in england is the problem, bord bia guy at the sheep welfare information meeting was saying that english lamb was only making around €4.30 - €4.40/kg...not great competing with that price in the french market


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    #1335
    Green farmer
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    rangler1 wrote: »
    Huge carryover of hoggets in england is the problem, bord bia guy at the sheep welfare information meeting was saying that english lamb was only making around €4.30 - €4.40/kg...not great competing with that price in the french market

    Flipping heck, doesn't paint a bright future .


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    #1336
    rangler1
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    Green farmer wrote: »
    Flipping heck, doesn't paint a bright future .

    French farmers are getting 6.50/kg for their lambs.....french housewives are obviously patriotic


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    #1337
    Green farmer
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    rangler1 wrote: »
    French farmers are getting 6.50/kg for their lambs.....french housewives are obviously patriotic

    Could never understand why their paid so much more then us. Always thought it was to cover the shipping / logistics costs of getting the lambs to market. Another interesting question is what will happen in a few years when British lambs mightn't have free access to France and nz lamb numbers keep declining ? Has to be a bounce somewhere for us ?


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    #1338
    Willfarman
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    Anyone getting more than 4.70 to 22.5?


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    #1339
    kk.man
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    I heard from a guy yesterday that two articulated loads of sheep was purchased by Irish Factories/Factory at Carlisle Market for slaughter in Irish Plants. Sheep prices are lower in the UK and the currency is in their favour. This will/has depressed sheep prices here. Country of Origin doesn't come into play here!


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    #1340
    arctictree
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    kk.man wrote: »
    I heard from a guy yesterday that two articulated loads of sheep was purchased by Irish Factories/Factory at Carlisle Market for slaughter in Irish Plants. Sheep prices are lower in the UK and the currency is in their favour. This will/has depressed sheep prices here. Country of Origin doesn't come into play here!

    Will this be allowed once Brexit is completed?!


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    #1341
    Green farmer
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    Hope some of the farmers unions keep an eye on this.


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    #1342
    rangler1
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    Green farmer wrote: »
    Hope some of the farmers unions keep an eye on this.

    Killing English lamb is no problem, selling it as Irish might be.
    You'd be hoping my friends, the public service, would be looking after our interests there
    Produced in Ireland and the Irish flag on the label doesn't mean anything, you have to look for a miniscule label at the back of the packet to see where it really comes from


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    #1343
    ganmo
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    arctictree wrote: »
    Will this be allowed once Brexit is completed?!

    nobody knows but i doubt it will


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    #1344
    Dickie10
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    we have to highlight this a lot more


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    #1345
    sea12
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    When do cull ewe prices peak. Have a few to sell but don't need to sell them now. Have plenty of feed and will be under stocked this year so not worried about grass. Just want to maximise return on them or even thinking someone might want a few when the sheep inspections start happening fir ewe scheme


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    #1346
    Dickie10
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    id say late march early april, you should get good price for all sheep meat, but this year is very sticky so far


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    #1347
    Green farmer
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    kk.man wrote: »
    I heard from a guy yesterday that two articulated loads of sheep was purchased by Irish Factories/Factory at Carlisle Market for slaughter in Irish Plants. of Origin doesn't come into play here!


    I see the ICSA have spotted this and are highlighting it on agri land, if anyone knows how to copy link here


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    #1348
    razor8
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    fair play for them highlighting, why has the IFA been so slow to react?


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    #1349
    rangler1
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    razor8 wrote: »
    fair play for them highlighting, why has the IFA been so slow to react?

    Probably because blocking lamb coming from our biggest beef customers would be political suicide.
    Hard to know how to handle it, I've sold cull ewes for export loads of times
    Factories excuse will probably be 'Irish lamb is too fat and too heavy for our markets'' :rolleyes:
    Remember a lorry load of UK lamb overturned in Athleague town years ago, that probably caused a bit of embarassment


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    #1350
    razor8
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    rangler1 wrote: »
    Probably because blocking lamb coming from our biggest beef customers would be political suicide.
    Hard to know how to handle it, I've sold cull ewes for export loads of times
    Factories excuse will probably be 'Irish lamb is too fat and too heavy for our markets'' :rolleyes:
    Remember a lorry load of UK lamb overturned in Athleague town years ago, that probably caused a bit of embarassment

    Still doesn't make it right. They should at least be asking the questions


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    #1351
    rangler1
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    razor8 wrote: »
    Still doesn't make it right. They should at least be asking the questions

    Tbh it's a waste of time, I was involved in loads of things to highlight it, we'd be tipped off on a lorry coming into a factory, we'd setup a stake out, the lorry would go to ground somewhere, spent plenty of nights waiting for a lorry.
    One of our crowd was given a camera by RTE and they followed a lorry right into the factory and the footage was put out over the news.....didn't make a bit of difference and then the lorry overturning was around the same time


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