Spring lamb prices

Lambman

Know off only 1 farmer near me that used a vendeen thought they were just ok... he kept a food few for replacements the first year and the broke his heart with prolapses maybe it was a bad ram but he never bought another.

wrangler

Lambman wrote: »

Know off only 1 farmer near me that used a vendeen thought they were just ok... he kept a food few for replacements the first year and the broke his heart with prolapses maybe it was a bad ram but he never bought another.

Wouldn't use them for crossbred replacement ewes anyway, strictly terminal breed.
Even when we had the pedigree flock here we'd always make ram buyers aware they had poor milk.
Never had any problem with prolapses and the pedigree ewes were 100kgs+.
They were only for a hobby any way, shows etc.
Hardy at birth and born with wool made them ideal for a busy lambing like ours.

Willfarman

Concur with Rangler. Very fond of them here.

Siamsa Sessions

wrangler wrote: »

There's usually foundations and filling beside the wall, hard to get tight to it.
That's why I bolt something to the wall

That’s exactly the way it is here so need to attach to the wall or drive a stake a few feet out and then use a pallet to fill the gap.

Do you drive a stake to keep the angle iron pushed up against the wall Wrangler? Or is there any need?

wrangler

Siamsa Sessions wrote: »

That’s exactly the way it is here so need to attach to the wall or drive a stake a few feet out and then use a pallet to fill the gap.

Do you drive a stake to keep the angle iron pushed up against the wall Wrangler? Or is there any need?

Anywhere I'd have it I have the wire continuing on from the wall, ie the wire wouldn't be going off at right angles to the wall iykwim. If I was coming off the corner of a shed, I'd bolt it to the wall thats going the same direction as the wire, If you have any doubts bore four holes in the angle iron and put four anchor bolts on it, they're strong yokes, put in right they won't pull out

Siamsa Sessions

wrangler wrote: »

Siamsa Sessions wrote: »

That’s exactly the way it is here so need to attach to the wall or drive a stake a few feet out and then use a pallet to fill the gap.

Do you drive a stake to keep the angle iron pushed up against the wall Wrangler? Or is there any need?

Anywhere I'd have it I have the wire continuing on from the wall, ie the wire wouldn't be going off at right angles to the wall iykwim. If I was coming off the corner of a shed, I'd bolt it to the wall thats going the same direction as the wire, If you have any doubts bore four holes in the angle iron and put four anchor bolts on it, they're strong yokes, put in right they won't pull out

I know what you mean - thanks again

paddysdream

Siamsa Sessions wrote: »

Putting up a run of sheep wire tomorrow and tis starting at the corner of a shed. Any of the experienced folks on here have a “trick” for attaching sheep wire to a concrete wall or steel girder?

Handiest way is (assuming its 8/80/15) drill 8 holes in pillar ,spaced as per bars in wire,run wire through and either gripple or tie the wire.
Looks neat and works perfect.Bit slow drilling unless drill and bit are good though.
Will post pic of some here tomorrow if I think of it.

kk.man

I have a few slaughter tags I want to use before new rules come into effect. I am bringing a load of lambs to the mart tomorrow. Are the marts strict on the use of tags?

Lambman

If the department man's there you'll get into unnecessary bother. Seen lambs before sold with slaughter tags tho.

Lambman

Why isn't there more off a buzz around the export lambs this year I thought every other year they paid good money 10-20c more than factory... have they men buying in marts over this last couple off weeks or are dealers stockpiling them that have deals already done for export? That would make sense as the mart trade seems better than factory prices at the minute... just feard when it's over the mart trade will collapse leading the way for factories till lower price once again. Tis hard till know what till do when you've suitable lambs. Anybody any opinions?

Siamsa Sessions

Any mention of prices this week for lambs? Will it hover around 5 Euro again or is there a change coming?

Willfarman

5.10 for tomorrow 21.5kgs.

Lambman

Willfarman wrote: »

5.10 for tomorrow 21.5kgs.

Whats outlook for the end off week? Need till do another drafting but will be on by weekend.

White Clover

Willfarman wrote: »

5.10 for tomorrow 21.5kgs.

Including qa?

davidk1394

Got 5.15 today for lambs.

Willfarman

All in flat price.

wrangler

davidk1394 wrote: »

Got 5.15 today for lambs.

Ours should average over 5.20....if they grade right.
Over 1600 went off from our group this week so everyones lambs is coming fit now, I had to leave over two loads this morning to the depot, I was away last week and didn't weigh, so I probably have overweights/overfats

davidk1394

wrangler wrote: »

Ours should average over 5.20....if they grade right.
Over 1600 went off from our group this week so everyones lambs is coming fit now, I had to leave over two loads this morning to the depot, I was away last week and didn't weigh, so I probably have overweights/overfats

Sent off 44 again this week. Finishing them on meal and grass(finally growing again) average live weights was 42/43kgs and average carcass weight 20.51 kgs. All the overweight lambs head for a butcher

arctictree

Anyone finding their lambs are slow to eat grass after being fed meal for the summer?

wrangler

arctictree wrote: »

Anyone finding their lambs are slow to eat grass after being fed meal for the summer?

Yea, they were eating over a kg/day here, finding it very hard to cut them back to .5kg even though I'm using a 3 in 1 feeder

148multi

wrangler wrote: »

Yea, they were eating over a kg/day here, finding it very hard to cut them back to .5kg even though I'm using a 3 in 1 feeder

Interested in the feeder, how do you find it, what do you feed in it. Tia.

wrangler

148multi wrote: »

Interested in the feeder, how do you find it, what do you feed in it. Tia.

We find it very good, you have to use pellets, 3 - 3.5mm pellets works best, it'll feed grains also. It'll feed any amount from .25kg/day up to ad lib.
You have to clean the trough maybe twice a week, that just takes a few seconds

Green farmer

Not sure what the outlook is going to be for the lambs this winter. Quoted €320 a tonne today for lamb finisher, bagged and their saying to expect price increases. Makes finishing them uneconomic unless you’ve loads of grass or something else home grown.

wrangler

Lambs averaged €110 and weighed 21kg.


**** hit the fan today with the groups lambs, there's 100 dirty lambs put back....these'll probably have to be shorn tomorrow.
One big supplier was only getting in the lambs when the lorry arrived to his place this morning, Can't expect lorries to keep lambs clean when they're loaded with bellies full of grass. They deserve to be told to collect them and bring them home

White Clover

wrangler wrote: »

Lambs averaged €110 and weighed 21kg.


**** hit the fan today with the groups lambs, there's 100 dirty lambs put back....these'll probably have to be shorn tomorrow.
One big supplier was only getting in the lambs when the lorry arrived to his place this morning, Can't expect lorries to keep lambs clean when they're loaded with bellies full of grass. They deserve to be told to collect them and bring them home

What was the kill out % wrangler?

wrangler

White Clover wrote: »

What was the kill out % wrangler?

We fast them in for 2hrs before weoghing, we feel some lambs have huge bellyfulls of grass when they come in first
the killout was 48.5% of that weight

paddysdream

wrangler wrote: »

Lambs averaged €110 and weighed 21kg.


**** hit the fan today with the groups lambs, there's 100 dirty lambs put back....these'll probably have to be shorn tomorrow.
One big supplier was only getting in the lambs when the lorry arrived to his place this morning, Can't expect lorries to keep lambs clean when they're loaded with bellies full of grass. They deserve to be told to collect them and bring them home

In a factory one morning last week with some lambs of my own,few for a neighbour and 6 cast ewes,5 decent ones and a boner.
Boner was a year and a half old,lambed in March and with a fist sized lump on her jaw.Pure skin and bone and might not have seen another week or two.Triple decker filled the lairage and waiting two hours to unload.To make a long story short she went down in the trailer and had to drag her out.Completely covered in sc*t*er and unable to walk.Fully sure vet would condemn her straight away.
Got return yesterday and she makes 35.20 at 2;50 a kilo.Rather someone else eat her than me !!

Pity to see cast ewes make more than good lambs.5 ewes averaged 118 at 2;80 whilst lambs averaged 109(full weight at 5;10)About 44/45 kgs liveweight .

Only problem with cast ewes is deductions of 3 euro a head regardless of weight/price.Lambs "only" had 82 cent a head stoppages

wrangler

wrangler wrote: »

We fast them in for 2hrs before weoghing, we feel some lambs have huge bellyfulls of grass when they come in first
the killout was 48.5% of that weight

Just looking at the dockets for last thursday here, might give you an idea why we're so particular weighing
We had one overweight and over fat, he was a U4 and he made €4.78/ kg.
A U3 last thursday was worth €5.32/kg.

Anyone any idea what a U3 was worth in Qualutex last week

Bleating Lamb

Green farmer wrote: »

Not sure what the outlook is going to be for the lambs this winter. Quoted €320 a tonne today for lamb finisher, bagged and their saying to expect price increases. Makes finishing them uneconomic unless you’ve loads of grass or something else home grown.

Roughly what would it have being a tonne last winter?

Green farmer

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Roughly what would it have being a tonne last winter?

From memory about. €30-€40 a tonne cheaper, that’s in small bags. Why it’s crucial, is because teagasc have stated €280 is point where is starts to become uneconomic.