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Spring lamb prices

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  • Registered Users Posts: 351 ✭✭Duke92


    Do many people have sheep left
    I’ve 150 left this time last year I had 270
    And had until the 20 of March


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    Duke92 wrote: »
    Do many people have sheep left
    I’ve 150 left this time last year I had 270
    And had until the 20 of March

    What kinda system do you run Duke?

    Do you buy stores or lamb your own that bit later and run them over the winter?


  • Registered Users Posts: 351 ✭✭Duke92


    What kinda system do you run Duke?

    Do you buy stores or lamb your own that bit later and run them over the winter?

    Buy stores in oct nov around 3.50


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    Duke92 wrote: »
    Buy stores in oct nov around 3.50

    3.50? Oh, do you mean 350 lambs?

    How do you feed / fatten em?

    Just being curious ;):)

    Buy a small few myself, used to run em on and sell them as hog in Aug / Sept... But keen to hear how lads buying stores to sell as fat lambs do it...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Sold lambs to a butcher in the yard today. Chevy and Suffolk. €120. Bought for €74 in November. They wouldn't have eaten a bag of meal. Happy enough for well fleshed middling stock.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,142 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Sold lambs to a butcher in the yard today. Chevy and Suffolk. €120. Bought for €74 in November. They wouldn't have eaten a bag of meal. Happy enough for well fleshed middling stock.

    If you didn't feed much meal they must have been spread over a good farm, probably one that hasn't seen much sheep all year because lambs don't thrive usually like that around here wihout meal


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Sold lambs to a butcher in the yard today. Chevy and Suffolk. €120. Bought for €74 in November. They wouldn't have eaten a bag of meal. Happy enough for well fleshed middling stock.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    I sold fat lambs into the factory last week. All graded U. Pity it was all out of a bag though. Pretty much mades me a busy fool.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    wrangler wrote: »
    If you didn't feed much meal they must have been spread over a good farm, probably one that hasn't seen much sheep all year because lambs don't thrive usually like that around here wihout meal

    Would see the same here...
    But then this year was a savage year for late grass...

    When did they get the meal memory - just a bit at the end or did you meal a small bit all over winter?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Would see the same here...
    But then this year was a savage year for late grass...

    When did they get the meal memory - just a bit at the end or did you meal a small bit all over winter?

    A taste just a few times a week as I work and might not see them daily but fairly regular for the last 3 weeks. Very happy with them. Will €2700 last November turn into €4000 before costs in March?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭memorystick


    I sold fat lambs into the factory last week. All graded U. Pity it was all out of a bag though. Pretty much mades me a busy fool.

    How much meal did they eat? 2 bags?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    A taste just a few times a week as I work and might not see them daily but fairly regular for the last 3 weeks. Very happy with them. Will €2700 last November turn into €4000 before costs in March?

    Oh - did you have them on beet tops as well Memory?
    Did they have access to grass as well as the beet tops?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,142 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Duke92 wrote: »
    Buy stores in oct nov around 3.50
    A taste just a few times a week as I work and might not see them daily but fairly regular for the last 3 weeks. Very happy with them. Will €2700 last November turn into €4000 before costs in March?

    Is it 35 lambs or 350 lambs you have, or what do the figures mean


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    How much meal did they eat? 2 bags?

    I’ll have to sit down and go the figures once their all gone, but more then I’d have liked. Had to grow them up to 15kg live weight, so didn’t come cheap. Have another batch that had some grass but won’t be ready for another month or so, should do better on those. But anything fed from bag, the figures will be are very tight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    I’ll have to sit down and go the figures once their all gone, but more then I’d have liked. Had to grow them up to 15kg live weight, so didn’t come cheap. Have another batch that had some grass but won’t be ready for another month or so, should do better on those. But anything fed from bag, the figures will be are very tight.

    Well, if they had a lot of ration, plus they graded U, so I assume their kill out % was high, so you don’t have to take them to very high weights...

    I know it’s not much consolation... out of interest, what % did they kill out?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Oh - did you have them on beet tops as well Memory?
    Did they have access to grass as well as the beet tops?

    They had access to tops but there were cattle on them. They barely grazed them as the ground was wet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭memorystick


    wrangler wrote: »
    Is it 35 lambs or 350 lambs you have, or what do the figures mean

    I bought €2700 worth of lambs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    They had access to tops but there were cattle on them. They barely grazed them as the ground was wet.

    Ok...

    So how much ration over what length of time did they get?
    And what weight did they put on?

    Just out of interest, to see how they came on...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭memorystick


    wrangler wrote: »
    Is it 35 lambs or 350 lambs you have, or what do the figures mean

    I bought €2700 worth of lambs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,142 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    I bought €2700 worth of lambs.

    Was confused by post 2944, you'd need about 300 acres for 350 lambs to thrive without meal over the winter


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭memorystick


    wrangler wrote: »
    Was confused by post 2944, you'd need about 300 acres for 350 lambs to thrive without meal over the winter

    I should be able to run at least 2 lambs per acre for the winter with a pinch of meal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    Well, if they had a lot of ration, plus they graded U, so I assume their kill out % was high, so you don’t have to take them to very high weights...

    I know it’s not much consolation... out of interest, what % did they kill out?

    I think around 46%


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    I think around 46%

    I would have thought they’d kill a bit better, if they were on ad-lib ration... it still means you have to take em to 50kgs to kill out at 23kg...

    The difference (or bother I suppose really) between getting a lamb to 46 and 50 is massive I think... :):(


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    I would have thought they’d kill a bit better, if they were on ad-lib ration... it still means you have to take em to 50kgs to kill out at 23kg...

    The difference (or bother I suppose really) between getting a lamb to 46 and 50 is massive I think... :):(

    Ya, they were entire rams, so you have to knock off abit for the balls. The heaviest was 50kg and he k.o’d at 22.9kg. They also loose a few kg in the trailer as well, but ya, you’d have to be near 50kg in the field to get to the 23kg.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Ok...

    So how much ration over what length of time did they get?
    And what weight did they put on?

    Just out of interest, to see how they came on...

    The lambs I sold weighed 33 and 35 kegs at the end of November when I bought them. I'd give them 8kgs of meal every second or third day if I'd see them just to keep them quiet. For the last 3 weeks they got 1 bag of good ration per day between 36. I think it's a good way of doing it. In the short days I mightn't see them every day as I work. Would have had to get them in a good few times because of feet. I didn't mind as it was nothing serious. It's a nice simple way to farm if you had fencing and a handling yard. Better than feeding heifers at a huge loss. You'd feed a lot of lambs with €1000 of meal as compared to cattle. And less invested.


  • Registered Users Posts: 351 ✭✭Duke92


    I bought €2700 worth of lambs.

    I’ve 350 lambs
    And last year didn’t really matter how many lambs you had to the acre they still needed a lot of meal


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Duke92 wrote: »
    I’ve 350 lambs
    And last year didn’t really matter how many lambs you had to the acre they still needed a lot of meal

    There’s no 2 years the same. We could be drowned this summer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 645 ✭✭✭MD1983


    any prices for this week lads? uncle got 5.40 to 23.5kg last week


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭razor8


    MD1983 wrote: »
    any prices for this week lads? uncle got 5.40 to 23.5kg last week

    Don’t believe there is any improvement on that this week


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    Think their starting the Easter kill next week, so hopefully things will start improving from there on out.


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