getting puppy from uk

compass21

Hello everyone,

I am considering getting a puppy for our family, and have thought about getting one from a breeder in uk. can anyone give some advice on what documentation i would need.
do i need a pet passport? puppy will be 10 weeks.

aonb

Pet passport. Chipped. All vaccinations up to date. Rabies shot (?UK to Ire? or is it any movement within EU now?) Make sure you have her certs from the vet and any registration papers too

what breed are you getting? (assume all breed associated tests/checks will have been done?)

(My daughter when little used to ask if English dogs woofed with an english accent )

kylith

aonb wrote: »

(My daughter when little used to ask if English dogs woofed with an english accent )

They actually do! And in regional accents too! Their barks are effected by the way their 'pack' 'barks' (the way their humans talk). The same would be true in Ireland; Dublin dogs would have a different accent to Kerry dogs.

Wild birds have their own accents too, though not effected by human speech, but birds in different parts of the country sound subtly different to each other. It's not something that humans would pick up on, but it would probably be very noticeable to other birds.

aonb

kylith wrote: »

They actually do! And in regional accents too! Their barks are effected by the way their 'pack' 'barks' (the way their humans talk). The same would be true in Ireland; Dublin dogs would have a different accent to Kerry dogs.

Wild birds have their own accents too, though not effected by human speech, but birds in different parts of the country sound subtly different to each other. It's not something that humans would pick up on, but it would probably be very noticeable to other birds.

:eek: wow :eek:

so! If I sent one of my kildare bred dogs to england, would his bark change over time?!?!? Horrible thought - one of my dogs half brothers (10wk old puppy) has just been sent to england - he wont understand a word the other dogs say

Magenta

compass21 wrote: »

Hello everyone,

I am considering getting a puppy for our family, and have thought about getting one from a breeder in uk. can anyone give some advice on what documentation i would need.
do i need a pet passport? puppy will be 10 weeks.

There have been multiple threads on this topic already if you search. The information is also all available online.

anniehoo

Magenta if you suggest googling info to a poster again in this forum you will be banned from here for a period of time. Consider this your only warning.This user is new as you can see and your reply is far from helpful.

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Anniehoo

maggiepip

kylith wrote: »

They actually do! And in regional accents too! Their barks are effected by the way their 'pack' 'barks' (the way their humans talk). The same would be true in Ireland; Dublin dogs would have a different accent to Kerry dogs.

Wild birds have their own accents too, though not effected by human speech, but birds in different parts of the country sound subtly different to each other. It's not something that humans would pick up on, but it would probably be very noticeable to other birds.

OMG thats so funny, I never knew that!!!!

compass21

Magenta wrote: »

There have been multiple threads on this topic already if you search. The information is also all available online.

I did search, but didnt find anything conclusive, so I thought I'd ask on here and maybe someone with actual experience could help me out. thanks for providing the link though. ;-)

snoman

compass21 wrote: »

I did search, but didnt find anything conclusive, so I thought I'd ask on here and maybe someone with actual experience could help me out. thanks for providing the link though. ;-)

http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057194975/1

I think this person was importing from Europe, but I assume the passport info would be the same.

alroley

You need the pet passport - which includes a rabies vaccine (which as far as I know, shouldn't/most vets don't give until puppies are at least 12 weeks)

ABajaninCork

kylith wrote: »

They actually do! And in regional accents too! Their barks are effected by the way their 'pack' 'barks' (the way their humans talk). The same would be true in Ireland; Dublin dogs would have a different accent to Kerry dogs.

Wild birds have their own accents too, though not effected by human speech, but birds in different parts of the country sound subtly different to each other. It's not something that humans would pick up on, but it would probably be very noticeable to other birds.

So my husband wasn't joking then? :eek:

kylith

ABajaninCork wrote: »

So my husband wasn't joking then? :eek:

I don't know if he was joking or not, but he was right!

aonb

OP, just out of curiosity, what breed are you thinking about importing?

compass21

aonb wrote: »

OP, just out of curiosity, what breed are you thinking about importing?

English springer spaniel. so far I've searched on this site and several other sites and found a lot of contradictory info. some saying pet passport needed, rabies shots, etc, and other pages saying the exact opposite. And of course then you get the ones that derail the thread by discussing regional barking accents!! :-)
I guess I was just hoping that someone on here had actually brought a pup in from the UK in the last year, that could advise me.

andreac

Yes, trust me you need a pet passport.ive send a pup to the uk and it needed a pet passport.

ABajaninCork

But coming back the other way (i.e. UK to Ireland), is one required?

Have you made enquiries of Defra, OP?

compass21

ABajaninCork wrote: »

But coming back the other way (i.e. UK to Ireland), is one required?

Have you made enquiries of Defra, OP?

No, but I did send a mail to the IKC this evening. I will see what they say, and will enquire with defra also,

ABajaninCork

OP - I've found a link from the Dept of Food, Agriculture and Marine. Seems you DO need a PP to enter Ireland as the dog will be coming in from the EU.

Your breeder should organise this as andreac says. But check with the KC rather than the IKC as the animal is in the UK.

Hope this helps!

andreac

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ABajaninCork

Isn't that the same link I've just posted??

andreac

ABajaninCork wrote: »

Isn't that the same link I've just posted??

Oh is it? Sorry, i didnt even look at your link. Sorry, my bad. Ill delete it now

ABajaninCork

LOL!! Don't worry - I've had a blonde moment today too!

Cows Go µ

Hi, I'm not sure whether to open my own thread or to just use this one. I'm getting a puppy from the UK and I know it has been said that she will need a pet passport to come home to Ireland. However don't you need a rabies vaccine for one of those? She will be one day short of 9 weeks when I get her so I'd have thought she'd be far too young to have that.

I've emailed the kc, ikc and agricultural department but haven't heard back yet.

muddypaws

Cows Go µ wrote: »

Hi, I'm not sure whether to open my own thread or to just use this one. I'm getting a puppy from the UK and I know it has been said that she will need a pet passport to come home to Ireland. However don't you need a rabies vaccine for one of those? She will be one day short of 9 weeks when I get her so I'd have thought she'd be far too young to have that.

I've emailed the kc, ikc and agricultural department but haven't heard back yet.

Yeah, unfortunately you won't be able to get her until she's much older. Off the top of my head, I think 14 weeks is the minimum age for the rabies vacc (or could be 12 weeks) and then you have to wait 21 days before she can travel. Of course if you live in Northern Ireland, and so get the ferry into Larne, you don't need a passport or rabies vacc.

Cows Go µ

muddypaws wrote: »

Yeah, unfortunately you won't be able to get her until she's much older. Off the top of my head, I think 14 weeks is the minimum age for the rabies vacc (or could be 12 weeks) and then you have to wait 21 days before she can travel. Of course if you live in Northern Ireland, and so get the ferry into Larne, you don't need a passport or rabies vacc.

Damn. I'm in Cork and the puppy is in Birmingham so Belfast-Larne ferry is a bit far especially for a little puppy to travel. Sucks because I'm actually from Northern Ireland, just living in Cork now.

Really don't want to wait that long to get the pup, my current girl was under-socialised as a pup (completely my fault and a really long story) and I've had to do so much work with her to get her to where she is now, really don't want to have to do that again.

I was talking to my mum, she shows dogs and she travels back and forth all the time with a passport but no one has ever actually checked it. Have you guys ever been stopped? And if you have, how much do they check? Like do they just see dogs and a passport and not really go into details or do they double check every little thing?

muddypaws

I've been stopped in Dublin, had 7 dogs in the van (I drive a large white Transit, so usually get stopped going over, if I travel during the day, never stopped when I get off the ferry in the early hours, as I never see anybody there). I showed them the passports, they looked at the dogs, but didn't check the microchips or marry up the passports with the dogs.

It is only spot checks they do, and I'm not sure what would happen if you were stopped and didn't have what you need. You could get the passport anyway, when I was stopped they didn't look at the rabies vaccination page. One issue you could have, is that as you have bought the pup in the UK, it becomes a commercial transport, rather than someone taking a dog they already own over for a holiday. There are more restrictions around commercial transportation.

Cows Go µ

It was just that I was planning on bringing a few other dogs so she had company on the ferry and they have passports and they would be more visible just because of how the van is set up.

If it was up to me, I'd risk it, because the probability is so slim but I'd say I'll leave it up to the breeder.

I had planned on bringing the van because I thought that it would be good to have the pitch black while on the ferry, especially as no one could see in. But if vans are more likely to be checked, I might just bring my car. It's not so roomy but if I've only one other dog it would be fine.

Gahh! I hate this, finding and picking the puppy are meant to be the hard parts, not bringing it home

Inexile

http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/pets/

According to this pup has to be 15 weeks old before it can be imported. The age the rabies vac can be given to a pup has increased to 12 weeks so it can travel until its 15 weeks.