doberman pup

burtslimpslon

Hi, im looking to buy a doberman pup not for shows or anything just as a guard dog. how much does a pup cost roughly and where can i find breeders or would all breeders be selling to people who want to put them in shows etc. Thanks.
ps any other tips to look for would be very helpful aswell, thanks:)

Knine

burtslimpslon wrote: »

Hi, im looking to buy a doberman pup not for shows or anything just as a guard dog. how much does a pup cost roughly and where can i find breeders or would all breeders be selling to people who want to put them in shows etc. Thanks.
ps any other tips to look for would be very helpful aswell, thanks:)

You could contact the IKC or have a look at their website for the secretary's details. Breeders generally keep their show quality stock or sell them to show homes. However in a litter you will get many pups that will make better pets then show dogs.

Personally I would not sell a dog as a guard dog.

burtslimpslon

Knine wrote: »

Personally I would not sell a dog as a guard dog.

thanks for the reply, just out of curiosity why wouldn't you sell a dog as a guard dog?its asmuch for a pet as guard dog by the way(forgot to add), thanks again for the reply.

andreac

No decent breeder will sell a pup solely for a guard dog. Most dogs will guard their home naturally but if you say to the breeder you want it just as a guard dog I can guarantee you they will not entertain you.

Breeders want their pups to go to a loving family home and not for guarding purposes.

burtslimpslon

andreac wrote: »

No decent breeder will sell a pup solely for a guard dog. Most dogs will guard their home naturally but if you say to the breeder you want it just as a guard dog I can guarantee you they will not entertain you.

Breeders want their pups to go to a loving family home and not for guarding purposes.

sorry i may have exaggerated my want for a gaurd dog, i want a dog as a pet that guards as well, pet number one, guard dog number two.

andreac

Well I would then concentrate on looking for a good breeder who sells healthy, well socialised pups and forget about the guard dog part. Most good dogs will naturally guard their home when they mature into an adult but I wouldn't go actively looking for a guard dog.
You should concentrate on sourcing a reputable breeder that health tests first and foremost.

valerossi

Why set your heart on a Doberman?

What's peoples obsession with IKC? It just means it a registered pure line not a decent animal or breeder, in the morning I could register and breed my dogs in a coal bunker, feed them muck and never walk them and the IKC wouldn't give a flying fúck. So take your time buying your dog and research the dogs well bread characteristics.
Notting wrong with using dogs as guard dogs either and not many dealers give a crap, I keep German Shepards great family dog and it comes instinctively for them to be protective but only once they've matured at about 2 years old. Just have him well trained confident and patient and he'll never cause you a days bother.
Best of luck:)

burtslimpslon

valerossi wrote: »

Why set your heart on a Doberman?

What's peoples obsession with IKC? It just means it a registered pure line not a decent animal or breeder, in the morning I could register and breed my dogs in a coal bunker, feed them muck and never walk them and the IKC wouldn't give a flying fúck. So take your time buying your dog and research the dogs well bread characteristics.
Notting wrong with using dogs as guard dogs either and not many dealers give a crap, I keep German Shepards great family dog and it comes instinctively for them to be protective but only once they've matured at about 2 years old. Just have him well trained confident and patient and he'll never cause you a days bother.
Best of luck:)

thanks,that was a really good reply:)

andreac

valerossi wrote: »

Why set your heart on a Doberman?

What's peoples obsession with IKC? It just means it a registered pure line not a decent animal or breeder, in the morning I could register and breed my dogs in a coal bunker, feed them muck and never walk them and the IKC wouldn't give a flying fúck. So take your time buying your dog and research the dogs well bread characteristics.
Notting wrong with using dogs as guard dogs either and not many dealers give a crap, I keep German Shepards great family dog and it comes instinctively for them to be protective but only once they've matured at about 2 years old. Just have him well trained confident and patient and he'll never cause you a days bother.
Best of luck:)

Sorry but reputable decent breeders will give a crap actually. It's the puppy farmers and back yard breeders that don't give a crap so I would take this advice with a pinch of salt.
Reputable breeders will breed solid, confident healthy pups which should grow up to protect their home and family naturally.
Back yard breeders will only breed for money and you will have issues with health and temperament which would be absolutely no good if you are hoping for your pet to mind you and your home.
So along with health tests etc, ikc reg will come part and parcel with reputable breeders and pups.

valerossi

andreac wrote: »

Sorry but reputable decent breeders will give a crap actually. It's the puppy farmers and back yard breeders that don't give a crap so I would take this advice with a pinch of salt.
Reputable breeders will breed solid, confident healthy pups which should grow up to protect their home and family naturally.
Back yard breeders will only breed for money and you will have issues with health and temperament which would be absolutely no good if you are hoping for your pet to mind you and your home.
So along with health tests etc, ikc reg will come part and parcel with reputable breeders and pups.

Ha I'm no gona ruin this tread with an argument but my point was the IKC doesn't care about how or what you breed as long as it's pure and you pay them. Like I said (Most) breeders wont care what you intend on doing with the dog as long as you take care of it.

andreac

valerossi wrote: »

Ha I'm no gona ruin this tread with an argument but my point was the IKC doesn't care about how or what you breed as long as it's pure and you pay them. Like I said (Most) breeders wont care what you intend on doing with the dog as long as you take care of it.

Well then they are the breeders to avoid at all costs.

Ikc reg is not the only thing you should consider but it's one of the many things a reputable breeder will ensure, is that their pups will be ikc reg.

Toulouse

OP, I mean this in the nicest possible way but unless your parents are the ones who really really want a dog then you shouldn't be getting one.

Also is there any particular reason that you're after a pup? Are you aware that the Doberman is on the restricted breed list and all that entails?

burtslimpslon

Toulouse wrote: »

OP, I mean this in the nicest possible way but unless your parents are the ones who really really want a dog then you shouldn't be getting one.

Also is there any particular reason that you're after a pup? Are you aware that the Doberman is on the restricted breed list and all that entails?

what does restricted breed mean?and im asking cause in the future im hopeing to get one.

snoman

http://www.bluecross.ie/news2.html

This gives the basic info.

snoman

http://www.bluecross.ie/news2.html

This gives the basic info.

Oops!!

are you serious

Be prepared for a breed of dog that loves to bark and bark and bark.
They bark for absolutely nothing! I used to have one (for 14yrs) and honestly I'd never get one again.
Great dog if they would STFU :mad:

Whispered

Out neighbour has one and it's constant. They went out recently and had a late night. The dog barked from 10pm until 4am then started again at 6. I didn't realise they tend to do it as a breed, I assumed this one is just highly strung.

fatmammycat

Whispered wrote: »

Out neighbour has one and it's constant. They went out recently and had a late night. The dog barked from 10pm until 4am then started again at 6. I didn't realise they tend to do it as a breed, I assumed this one is just highly strung.

My dobe didn't bark, but he spent the first 6 months of his life being virtually ignored by everyone so I think he just didn't bother. But there's a man who walks two brown dobes where I walk my dog and the female NEVER stops barking when she's out exercising. Ever. It's almost fascinating- but must drive him up the walls. Also, they can be super skittish dogs, high energy, smart, but like the other poster, I'm not sure I'd ever want one again, baring rescue.

ShaShaBear

Also worth noting that just because you get a Doberman, absolutely does not mean they will develop a guarding instinct. Most dogs will do it in their family home naturally, but I've come across many restricted breed "hard-man" dogs that are utterly delighted at the prospect of a surprise visitor.

My mutt - a collie cross - greets visitors (even strangers) with approximately the same gusto as a dying man in the desert greets fresh water. He lives for human contact and has never, ever come across a person he didn't like, from newborn to elderly.

Last weekend when some hooligan running from the gardai tried to climb into our back garden over an 8foot fence, Shadow was ready to meet him. I've never in my life heard him make such noises. That dude was very much aware he'd get about as far as our back door before he'd lose his legs

ABajaninCork

are you serious wrote: »

Be prepared for a breed of dog that loves to bark and bark and bark.
They bark for absolutely nothing! I used to have one (for 14yrs) and honestly I'd never get one again.
Great dog if they would STFU :mad:

Neither of mine were barkers. In fact, Dobies aren't known as barkers. But they do 'talk' a lot. Is that what you mean?

are you serious

No, a bark.

Any shows Ive been at they are always the loudest dogs there.