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Deise Greenway. Cycle path. Waterford City to Dungarvan.

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    #692
    Daffodil.d
    Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭Daffodil.d


    I was on the Kilmac section of the greenway yesterday and it's beautiful. Full of walkers and cyclists. I just can't get over the speed of cyclists and the fact that they're not using their bells. (I know this has been mentioned before but people aren't using their heads). I've cycled other parts on busy days and used my bell.(which worked warning people I was approaching from behind) There's going to be an accident. It's hard to get younger kids to keep to the left. Cyclists need to slow down as well.
    I hate sounding like I'm complaining about it because we're so lucky having such an amenity.


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    #693
    beazee
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    Daffodil.d wrote: »
    I've cycled other parts on busy days and used my bell.(which worked warning people I was approaching from behind)
    Does it also work on walkers/joggers with headphones on?

    The "keep to the left" rule is not yet known / practiced on the Bilberry to Kilmeadan section. Could simply be due to lack on information as there are no information posts like you'll see approaching Durrow and closer to Dungarvan.

    I've a bicycle horn and I could swear a few people on the Greenway were offended for sounding it as I approached them from behind their backs.


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    #694
    Aquos76
    Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,036 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    I cycled from carriganore to Bilberry yesterday and yes I encountered some cyclists goings a bit fast alright, but the bigger issue which I had was people not knowing which side to walk on and also people with dogs on to long of a lead. I also saw some groups both walking and cycling taking up the full width of the greenway which made it almost impossible for people to pass coming in the opposite direction. I don't have a bell on my bike, but I'm cycling the greenway with the belief that the walkers have the right of way, so I'm happy to sit behind them till it's safe to pass. When it is safe I will politely say "passing on your right" as I approach them, and then go by them.


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    #695
    Azatadine
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    Yeah, I was on the bilberry section with my two kids yesterday. I won't go on it again. It was mayhem and downright dangerous. We were right in by the side but if one of the kids drifted away from the side in any way they could get mown down. I'm sure it'd be fine if it was less busy but cyclists really do need to let people know that they are coming from the rear.


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    #696
    I love Sean nos
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    Cortecs wrote: »
    It was mayhem
    That's nice. They played a gig in Dublin on Friday night so maybe they wanted to do some sightseeing in the country over the weekend.


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    #697
    debok
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    What speed are cyclists allowed do? Cos I was on it yesterday and barely moving and a woman gave out to me for going to fast. She tried to argue with me that I shouldn't be going any faster than she was walking which is bit ridiculous. She also had dog with no lead but I was told to mind my own business when I said she should have lead on dog. There will be an accident but there's accidents everywhere.


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    #698
    I love Sean nos
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    Is this pathway open to cars?


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    #699
    debok
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    I love Sean nos wrote: »
    Is this pathway open to cars?

    Muppet


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    #700
    Cabaal
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    I love Sean nos wrote: »
    That's nice. They played a gig in Dublin on Friday night so maybe they wanted to do some sightseeing in the country over the weekend.

    I love Sean nos wrote: »
    Is this pathway open to cars?

    I love Sean nos, if you have nothing actually constructive to add to the thread then please don't post again.


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    #701
    I love Sean nos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭I love Sean nos


    Are there any by-laws in force on this path, like you would have in parks?


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    #702
    my3cents
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    I love Sean nos wrote: »
    Are there any by-laws in force on this path, like you would have in parks?

    Even if there are who is going to enforce them? There are by-laws for some of the local beaches but because there is no enforcement no one takes a blind bit of notice except maybe German tourists.


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    #703
    Aquos76
    Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,036 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    I love Sean nos wrote: »
    Is this pathway open to cars?

    No it's not, it's just for Runners, walkers and cyclists.


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    #704
    I love Sean nos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭I love Sean nos


    Aquos76 wrote: »
    No it's not, it's just for Runners, walkers and cyclists.
    Well that's one less thing for users to complain about then. If the complaints continue, I think the path should be opened to motorised vehicles for the day.

    Are horses allowed on it? They have the capability of doing way more damage than a person on a bike if not treated with caution.


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    #705
    Wanderer78
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    I love Sean nos wrote: »
    Well that's one less thing for users to complain about then. If the complaints continue, I think the path should be opened to motorised vehicles for the day.

    Are horses allowed on it? They have the capability of doing way more damage than a person on a bike if not treated with caution.

    complaints are inevitable particularly on an unfinished project, but i have to say, its an incredible piece of infrastructure. it was great to see so many on it yesterday but of course there was some poor behaviour from some, possible even myself.

    i think im glad though that i got to walk it in its entirety at the beginning of the project, it was amazing in its almost natural state.


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    #706
    I love Sean nos
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    complaints are inevitable particularly on an unfinished project, but i have to say, its an incredible piece of infrastructure. it was great to see so many on it yesterday but of course there was some poor behaviour from some, possible even myself.
    I really enjoyed myself with the missus on the Mayo greenway a number of years ago. Was on a hire bike, which was a bit of a shambles to start with, but once the brakes were tightened up a bit, turned out fine. Certainly the fatter tyres were welcomed over the 23mm that my own road bike had. Also, I wasn't worried about chipping damaging my paintwork either. Barely met anyone else on the entire route from Westport to Achill that September day. Once the route is completed and the novelty wears off, some of the concerns expressed about the Waterford path might disappear.

    I do recall there being some obstacles designed in, such as kissing gates. I hope this new route doesn't have any of that.

    In any case, I look forward to trying this new path out at some point in the future. Will be a while though thanks to a new arrival.


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    #707
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,420 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    I love Sean nos wrote: »
    I really enjoyed myself with the missus on the Mayo greenway a number of years ago. Was on a hire bike, which was a bit of a shambles to start with, but once the brakes were tightened up a bit, turned out fine. Certainly the fatter tyres were welcomed over the 23mm that my own road bike had. Also, I wasn't worried about chipping damaging my paintwork either. Barely met anyone else on the entire route from Westport to Achill that September day. Once the route is completed and the novelty wears off, some of the concerns expressed about the Waterford path might disappear.

    I do recall there being some obstacles designed in, such as kissing gates. I hope this new route doesn't have any of that.

    In any case, I look forward to trying this new path out at some point in the future. Will be a while though thanks to a new arrival.

    i had to do it on an enduro yesterday as i couldnt get my hardtail up and running, 2.4inch front and 2.2inch rear. really not the ideal bike for the occasion but it wasnt too bad at all. im well use to the full suspension, and thankfully i can stiffen up the rear suspension with ease. i would recommend either a road bike or ideally a hybrid for the greenway. i done kilmac to dungarvan and the surface and indeed the whole route is very well put together. few issues here and there, but im very impressed overall.

    no kissings gates on the section i done, but there are some really nice nostalgic railway gates on many crossings, which are perfectly placed and designed.

    best of luck with the baby


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    #708
    AndrewJRenko
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    debok wrote: »
    What speed are cyclists allowed do? Cos I was on it yesterday and barely moving and a woman gave out to me for going to fast. She tried to argue with me that I shouldn't be going any faster than she was walking which is bit ridiculous. She also had dog with no lead but I was told to mind my own business when I said she should have lead on dog. There will be an accident but there's accidents everywhere.

    Just brilliant - head up her own ars3 or what?


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    #709
    JMcL
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    I love Sean nos wrote: »
    I really enjoyed myself with the missus on the Mayo greenway a number of years ago. Was on a hire bike, which was a bit of a shambles to start with, but once the brakes were tightened up a bit, turned out fine. Certainly the fatter tyres were welcomed over the 23mm that my own road bike had. Also, I wasn't worried about chipping damaging my paintwork either. Barely met anyone else on the entire route from Westport to Achill that September day. Once the route is completed and the novelty wears off, some of the concerns expressed about the Waterford path might disappear.

    I do recall there being some obstacles designed in, such as kissing gates. I hope this new route doesn't have any of that.

    In any case, I look forward to trying this new path out at some point in the future. Will be a while though thanks to a new arrival.

    The gates are fine - as Wander78 said they're quite attractive (receycled/repurposed?) iron gates well placed so you can get through them with minimal hassle.

    I wouldn't fancy doing much of it on 23mm tires. I've 25mm on the road bike and even then there's a noticeable buzz through the bars even on the bits with the finer chips. The steel winter/commuter/do-it-all bike has 35mm tires and is a lot more comfortable


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    #710
    fricatus
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    Anyone know if it's been reopened at Kildermody yet?


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    #711
    beazee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭beazee


    fricatus wrote: »
    Anyone know if it's been reopened at Kildermody yet?

    Friday @ 6:18 pm - gated with security personnel at gates
    Sunday @ 10:12am - gates opened, passable

    Could be work in progress during working week and opened for the weekend.


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    #712
    spookwoman
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    Is there tarmac on the waterford kilmacthomas side like on the dungarvan side. What happened with the waterford side with not finished on time and not linking with the city. Need the Dungravan planner to move to waterford


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    #713
    beazee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭beazee


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Is there tarmac on the waterford kilmacthomas side like on the dungarvan side.
    Bilberry to WIT Carriganore (ca. 3.5 km) - YES
    Both sides of the first brigde (ca. 60 mtrs each side) - YES
    WSVR Shed towards Kildermody underpass (only a ca. 2 km stretch of it) - YES
    Kildermody - Kilmac (all of it, ca. 9 km) - YES

    Overall? There's more stone-chippings surface than tarmac.
    What happened with the waterford side with not finished on time and not linking with the city.

    I'll risk saying - landlords/farmers:
    42GFyBe.jpg
    See anything strange on the old railway line continuity?


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    #714
    DublinBeaker
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    Plan on doing this during the summer on road bikes. No great speed or anything but is it suitable for 25mm tyres and road bikes?


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    #715
    I love Sean nos
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    Anyone planning to buy a hurley should consider making a day of it.


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    #716
    Wanderer78
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    DublinBeaker wrote: »
    Plan on doing this during the summer on road bikes. No great speed or anything but is it suitable for 25mm tyres and road bikes?

    i would say its just fine to do so, might be a little uncomfortable in places, but generally fine. seen lads on it on road bikes, didnt get chatting to them, but id say it would be fine.


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    #717
    debok
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    I done kilmac to dungarvan on 25mm and Twas grand no issues at all


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    #718
    Daffodil.d
    Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭Daffodil.d


    beazee wrote:
    The "keep to the left" rule is not yet known / practiced on the Bilberry to Kilmeadan section. Could simply be due to lack on information as there are no information posts like you'll see approaching Durrow and closer to Dungarvan.


    They have 'the greenway code' written up at certain points. I reckon maybe a few more little reminders might help.
    As regards to people with headphones on, I haven't come across any.


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    #719
    spookwoman
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    beazee wrote: »
    Bilberry to WIT Carriganore (ca. 3.5 km) - YES
    Both sides of the first brigde (ca. 60 mtrs each side) - YES
    WSVR Shed towards Kildermody underpass (only a ca. 2 km stretch of it) - YES
    Kildermody - Kilmac (all of it, ca. 9 km) - YES

    Overall? There's more stone-chippings surface than tarmac.



    I'll risk saying - landlords/farmers:
    42GFyBe.jpg
    See anything strange on the old railway line continuity?

    Bugger only have a racer. Looking at the map looks like few farmers took the rail land as their own. Don't think there is squatters rights on rail lines even if they are decommissioned.


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    #720
    Wanderer78
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    spookwoman wrote: »
    Bugger only have a racer. Looking at the map looks like few farmers took the rail land as their own. Don't think there is squatters rights on rail lines even if they are decommissioned.

    a few landowners did in fact make the railway apart of their own but it looks like its been slowly rectified while this project nears completion. some had even made it their back and front gardens, building walls and flower beds etc


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    #721
    Daffodil.d
    Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭Daffodil.d


    Cortecs wrote:
    Yeah, I was on the bilberry section with my two kids yesterday. I won't go on it again. It was mayhem and downright dangerous. We were right in by the side but if one of the kids drifted away from the side in any way they could get mown down. I'm sure it'd be fine if it was less busy but cyclists really do need to let people know that they are coming from the rear.


    Kids will be kids. Especially the younger ones and it's there for the use of everyone. It's the adults on bikes that should know better. Don't be put off though. You shouldn't have to miss out on such an amenity and I had this chat with my mother who's in her 60's and was saying the same as you.


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