Leaving Cert 2014 OT v2.0 - Official Bitch & Moan thread

2thousand14

Many people ask for graph paper today to "mind f***" the other students?

AulBiddy

You don't need quotes for comparative they might be helpful, but not completely necessary

AtomicKoala

Aww lads I'm so happy my poet came up, I was so worried.

:pac:

ManCityMan21

What does everyone feel about the Comparative, I'm hoping Theme/Issue comes up big time!

Striving470

Dickinson will come up...Dickinson will come up...PLEEASEEE Emily for the love of god...come f1cking up!

Aspiring

ManCityMan21 wrote: »

What does everyone feel about the Comparative, I'm hoping Theme/Issue comes up big time!

Theme/Issue or Cultural Context

Hotale.com

It's impossible to study today, I am absolutely wrecked. Might go to sleep now and get up at 6 to cram...

marno21

Hate seeing some people's reactions to Paper 1.. def not helping with other exams

If that's the reaction to English Paper 1, I hate to see how HL Maths will go...

deedeebb

anybody who did home ec as well today is feeling my pain. two exams really take it out of ya, i literally can't keep my eyes open

little sis...

Is there ever a link between paper 1 and 2?
Thinking of a Macbeth question along the lines of 'Lady Macbeth's INFLUENCE on Macbeth lead to his downfall' to what extent to you agree/disagree with this statement :P

Hotale.com

little sis... wrote: »

Is there ever a link between paper 1 and 2?
Thinking of a Macbeth question along the lines of 'Lady Macbeth's INFLUENCE on Macbeth lead to his downfall' to what extent to you agree/disagree with this statement :P

Could just come up coincidentally, that would actually be a nice question :pac:

LoveLamps

little sis... wrote: »

Is there ever a link between paper 1 and 2?
Thinking of a Macbeth question along the lines of 'Lady Macbeth's INFLUENCE on Macbeth lead to his downfall' to what extent to you agree/disagree with this statement :P

Lads if we get a question like that would I lose any purpose marks by saying I only agree partially.

Ie opening
yes she has some influence
witches influence
his ambition
his ability to discard her after it
his ruthlessness after it
closing

Im not talking about LM much in that like if ya get me?

leavingcert problems

Aspiring wrote: »

Aptly chosen username so what are you going to do after the leaving actually? Will you just repeat for all eternity so you can keep using that username?

Well Shít... Shows my desperation when I was making the account :P to be philosophical about it, I suppose I can think of it as a lesson that no, I can't bluff my way through life. I'll also never be taken seriously on boards.. But that's probably a good thing!!

LoveLamps

Too tired to cover another poet.

One of Heaney/Dickinson/Yeats will come up or else there'll be sobbing heard in my exam center along with my booklet being sprinkled with tears.

Hoping a MB q, CC and Yeats come up!

Robbyb525

Okay I'm literally desperate, need a sample essay off the comparative or how to do it in general ? Lost my English book! I do forbidden relationship for theme or issue with the texts sive, how many miles to babylon, and brooklyn. Also how would I go about the cultural context?

onethreefive

Can anyone tell me exactly what they know for both Macbeth and the comparative. I have so much to learn for it tonight.

Daniel2590

LoveLamps wrote: »

Too tired to cover another poet.

One of Heaney/Dickinson/Yeats will come up or else there'll be sobbing heard in my exam center along with my booklet being sprinkled with tears.

Hoping a MB q, CC and Yeats come up!

I'm not 100% sure but I think there's always a question on Macbeth every year alright

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Daniel2590 wrote: »

I'm not 100% sure but I think there's always a question on Macbeth every year alright

I love it when people try to be cheeky and fail

Shakespeare! :rolleyes:

Daniel2590

Hotale.com wrote: »

I love it when people try to be cheeky and fail

Shakespeare! :rolleyes:

Don't you have some study do to for your leaving cert?

WoolyAbyss

Can someone tell me how important are qoutes in macbeth at ordinary level?

Hotale.com

Daniel2590 wrote: »

Don't you have some study do to for your leaving cert?

Nah

Peregrine

Hotale.com wrote: »

Nah

Don't make me get shopa again :P

Byrnesy919

everyone is predicting Dickinson to come up.. She hasn't since 2010 I believe.. She's the only poet I've learned so I'm praying she does..!!

Lara_15

To whoever was asking about eoin jacksons predictions, his home ec ones were prettty accurate today so if youre trying to narrow stuff down it might not be a bad idea

Hotale.com

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

Don't make me get shopa again :P

I'll be good

bb1234567

Does anybody else feel like its not the real leaving cert? to me all the fuss was somewhat anti climactic, I feel about as stressed as I did during the mocks. Whether thats a good thing or a bad thing idk
( I wasnt stressed in my mocks btw if that wasnt clear)

jellytots95

ManCityMan21 wrote: »

What does everyone feel about the Comparative, I'm hoping Theme/Issue comes up big time!

Am I right in saying that General Vision and Viewpoint is likely enough to come up because it was the only one not on last year?

bb1234567

jellytots95 wrote: »

Am I right in saying that General Vision and Viewpoint is likely enough to come up because it was the only one not on last year?

Almost 100% chance. The only year that the a question didnt come up having not come up the year before was like ten years ago. GVV is almost a defnite. Im just learning Cultural context in case though.

LoveLamps

What themes are in dickinsons poetry?

peekachoo

LoveLamps wrote: »

What themes are in dickinsons poetry?

Hope, happiness, death
all essentially linked withher temporary mental state

LoveLamps

peekachoo wrote: »

Hope, happiness, death
all essentially linked withher temporary mental state

Yeah i have joy & nature, none of the powms im doing have death

"Yeats' creative use of language and imagery highlights the profiund ideas expressed in his poetry"

What??? What creative use of language does he have?? And creatvive use of imagery? Gaahhh HELP PLEASE GOD

sammydev

bb1234567 wrote: »

Almost 100% chance. The only year that the a question didnt come up having not come up the year before was like ten years ago. GVV is almost a defnite. Im just learning Cultural context in case though.

Vision and viewpoint has never come up with theme or issue , it has always been cultural context or the other one that's not on our course so im feeling pretty good about cultural context

jellytots95

sammydev wrote: »

Vision and viewpoint has never come up with theme or issue , it has always been cultural context or the other one that's not on our course so im feeling pretty good about cultural context

And cultural context isn't on next year is it?

bb1234567

jellytots95 wrote: »

And cultural context isn't on next year is it?

Nopeee, if you havnt learned CC yet just flick over it tonight or tomorrow so youll have something to write !

bb1234567

sammydev wrote: »

Vision and viewpoint has never come up with theme or issue , it has always been cultural context or the other one that's not on our course so im feeling pretty good about cultural context

Really? Suits me, I know Cultural context wayyy better haha

Badwulf

How many headings should I write and compare for cultural context? I have:

Role of woman
Society
War
Religion
Social class
What exactly are they asking us for this question? Just how the culture of the two or three texts differ and compare?

FatRat

LoveLamps wrote: »

"Yeats' creative use of language and imagery highlights the profiund ideas expressed in his poetry"

What??? What creative use of language does he have?? And creatvive use of imagery? Gaahhh HELP PLEASE GOD

That's a weird one alright. The reason why I'd love if Yeats came up is because they can't really ask a style question given the poems on our course! That said, I'd say his language would be grand to talk about. Talk about the alliteration and imagery in lake isles and the contrast between it and busy grey pavements. Colour grey representing dullness and how hes discontent with life there as opposed to his imaginary world. Plenty of imagery in that poem too! Pretty much the exact same can be applied to sailing to byzantium. Discusses live energetic world and then describes an imaginary world where everything is drowsy but everlasting. Also plenty of similes and symbolisms. There is a lot of imagery in it tbf, read over it.

As for the other poems well his language in Irish airman is weird since he is speaking in behalf of someone else and is completely detached from emotion. Not much imagery though. September 1913 and Easter 1916 are similar then in that he adopts an angry and argumentative tone in 1913 and the language is even sarcastic sometimes. Then in 1916 he is more patriotic and uses non-judmental language. The repetion in both of those poems 'romantic Ireland' and 'alls changed' is important. The language and symbolisms he uses to criticise the Irish in 1913 is also important... "Prayer to shivering prayer until you've dried the marrow from the bone etc."... In 1916 the symbolism and imagery of the stone is also very important. It can be answered but you need to delve deep I'd say. Then again.. Did the question ask to what extent do you agree with this statement? Because you can disagree to an extent. I would disagree with the imagery part for a lot of his poems.

Aspiring

Here lads, how many quotes are yous learning for Macbeth. I have about 30 for the character of Macbeth and probably 20'ish for Lady Macbeth, and maybe 15 for Banquo and Macduff each. What's the status on your quotes?

2thousand14

Aspiring wrote: »

Here lads, how many quotes are yous learning for Macbeth. I have about 30 for the character of Macbeth and probably 20'ish for Lady Macbeth, and maybe 15 for Banquo and Macduff each. What's the status on your quotes?

5 for macbeth
4 for lady macbeth
2 each for macduff and banquo

Saskatchewan

If Larkin comes up tomorrow, I am starting my answer with the first paragraph of "this be the verse"

Calvin

Aspiring wrote: »

Here lads, how many quotes are yous learning for Macbeth. I have about 30 for the character of Macbeth and probably 20'ish for Lady Macbeth, and maybe 15 for Banquo and Macduff each. What's the status on your quotes?

In my head, 4. On the sheet, about 30 general quotes that apply to several themes. Leaving out Banquo and Macduff, focusing on MacB and Lady with themes of Kingship and AvR

Aspiring

2thousand14 wrote: »

5 for macbeth
4 for lady macbeth
2 each for macduff and banquo

5 for Macbeth? Are you looking at Scene 5 alone or something?

Ah I'm only messing. I'm probably taking way too many quotes. I'll probably only end up using 2 or 3 each paragraph, it's just to be safe.

EDIT: Please nobody panic reading my post thinking do you need this many quotes,

My teacher obviously told us a few fibs and had us learn way too many quotes

ManCityMan21

sammydev wrote: »

Vision and viewpoint has never come up with theme or issue , it has always been cultural context or the other one that's not on our course so im feeling pretty good about cultural context

All the more reason to put it with it tomorrow, with the poets being rather predictable this year they may try to trick us in other areas.

Badwulf

Aspiring wrote: »

5 for Macbeth? Are you looking at Scene 5 alone or something?

Ah I'm only messing. I'm probably taking way too many quotes. I'll probably only end up using 2 or 3 each paragraph, it's just to be safe.

I have 5 for macbeth, 5 for LM, 5 for banquo and 5 general quotes. If you use more than 3 quotes per paragraph you will end up sounding like a broken record or your paragraphs will be giant

ManCityMan21

Badwulf wrote: »

How many headings should I write and compare for cultural context? I have:

Role of woman
Society
War
Religion
Social class
What exactly are they asking us for this question? Just how the culture of the two or three texts differ and compare?

What do you write about under social class? How long would each of those be?

Aspiring

Badwulf wrote: »

I have 5 for macbeth, 5 for LM, 5 for banquo and 5 general quotes. If you use more than 3 quotes per paragraph you will end up sounding like a broken record or your paragraphs will be giant

Yeah I know what you mean, that's what I said above I usually only do 3 or so per paragraph. I only have so many quotes because we had quote tests throughout fifth year and they just stuck.

Badwulf

ManCityMan21 wrote: »

What do you write about under social class? How long would each of those be?

I would compare the different social classes such as the rich and poor and how they affect the text, how one would dominate over the other, not too sure how much I would write but do they sound ok? also whats the best way to get LOADS O MARKS in both the CC and GVAV

Peregrine

ManCityMan21

Badwulf wrote: »

I would compare the different social classes such as the rich and poor and how they affect the text, how one would dominate over the other, not too sure how much I would write but do they sound ok? also whats the best way to get LOADS O MARKS in both the CC and GVAV

I have never done GVAV, I'm hoping Theme/Issue appears. For CC I'm doing four with Role of Men, Role of Women, Role of Money and Role of Social Class. Yours sound good though too. Just keep comparing the texts that's what my grind said. What you reckon for poetry and Macbeth?

Hotale.com

Aspiring wrote: »

Here lads, how many quotes are yous learning for Macbeth. I have about 30 for the character of Macbeth and probably 20'ish for Lady Macbeth, and maybe 15 for Banquo and Macduff each. What's the status on your quotes?

31 for Lady Macbeth, 88 for Macbeth, 16 for Macduff...

How the fúck did I manage so many?