''Shocking'' racist message on n7

How Soon Is Now

Just seen this online more then likely its already been talked about on here ??

Anyway..... http://www.thejournal.ie/racist-graffiti-newlands-cross-1476209-May2014/

Lets just say ive had conversations with people about this subject many a time. I wouldn't be wrong in saying i feel like a tourist at times in Dublin city center.

Do wonder what the same situation will be like in say ten years time?

I also feel the word racist has lost its meaning at this stage.

El Weirdo

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I wouldn't be wrong in saying i feel like a tourist at times in Dublin city center.

Why? Do you keep getting lost and have to ask for directions?

Alf. A. Male

Not sure I'd call the slogans "racist" per say, but certainly loony and cowardly.

The One Doctor

It's impressive that they only spray it on temporary walls. Very considerate. It's all spelled correctly too.

Conclusion - it's DDI.

How Soon Is Now

Alf. A. Male wrote: »

Not sure I'd call the slogans "racist" per say, but certainly loony and cowardly.

Its not racist the word is just a cover word for so many things people dont like these days. Its an argument starter and winner.

funk-you

You need to share the world, not build a wall around your little bit of it.

-Funk

darkpagandeath

Alf. A. Male wrote: »

Not sure I'd call the slogans "racist" per say, but certainly loony and cowardly.

Yeah I mean if the rants are factually accurate then they cant be racist. People can try and take them that way. The Jewish one is borderline as it’s nearly stereo typical.

Triangla

I would say xenophobic more than racist.

Looks like they sat down and put their own spin on the swastika there too.

RayM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Its not racist the word is just a cover word for so many things people dont like these days. Its an argument starter and winner.

The intent behind that graffiti is very clearly racist.

AdolfHipster

I for one welcome our insect overlords.

kunst nugget

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Just seen this online more then likely its already been talked about on here ??

Anyway..... http://www.thejournal.ie/racist-graffiti-newlands-cross-1476209-May2014/

Lets just say ive had conversations with people about this subject many a time. I wouldn't be wrong in saying i feel like a tourist at times in Dublin city center.

Do wonder what the same situation will be like in say ten years time?

I also feel the word racist has lost its meaning at this stage.

You're taking the Morrissey thing a bit far…

wendell borton

People are easily shocked.

Oink

I am more interested in the symbol at the end of it.
Looks like a politically-correct'ed Swastika to me. When you link that you the anti-Israel slogan and the "us poor Irish are hard done by in our own country"....

darkpagandeath

RayM wrote: »

The intent behind that graffiti is very clearly racist.

Ah the old mind readers are out. Proof ? Unless you can link to this groups website or something that shows them up as Racist.

bumper234

Not shocking.

Mildly racist.

Slightly offensive.

I for one am more.shocked that an idiot who would post graffiti like that has managed to do.so without any spelling mistakes.

kunst nugget

Oink wrote: »

I am more interested in the symbol at the end of it.

It's a picture of the game Simon. A fiendish device surely created by forhinners to bedivil the poor, honest Irishman.

folan

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Ah the old mind readers are out. Proof ? Unless you can link to this groups website or something that shows them up as Racist.

did you look at their other graffiti?

Nodin

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Yeah I mean if the rants are factually accurate then they cant be racist. People can try and take them that way. The Jewish one is borderline as it’s nearly stereo typical.

Nothing "nearly" about it. It's classic anti-Semitism.

kunst nugget

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Ah the old mind readers are out. Proof ? Unless you can link to this groups website or something that shows them up as Racist.

You're entirely right. It's clearly a campaign to raise awareness about Alzheimer's.

http://f0.thejournal.ie/media/2014/05/pastedimage-36987-630x472.png

The next hoarding had a slogan that said 'Can you remember where you put your car keys?'

Friend Computer

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Ah the old mind readers are out. Proof ? Unless you can link to this groups website or something that shows them up as Racist.

Okay, why don't you tell us what it's about then, since you're clearly incapable of reading any kind of subtext.

hfallada

Dublin is like third most visited city in Europe. There is also tons of Europeans working here in American multinationals and our services industry. Its very easy to feel there is very Irish, when they all live in the suburbs. I studied sociology in college. Ireland is the only country in the EU without an extremist party, but non-nationals made up a huge amount of the population. Ireland is also the least racist English speaking country. Although some will argue Canada, but English speaking Canadians often have serious beef with French Canadians.

But interesting most of immigrants come from countries that are similar to us. Most non-European immigrants come from places like Nigeria or the Philippines which are catholic countries. Immigrants adapt to our country better than immigrants in other countries. People who an issue with immigrants need to be the same people with issues with "the gays", "the church of Ireland crowd" and "children outside marriage". They have an issue with everything, but one gives a **** about their opinion

I do find it funny when Irish give out about foreigners in our country. When I have been to some extremely remote places and found the only white people were Irish. I was on a flight in China last year and the plane was just Chinese, but me and another Irish women(actually living in Dubai). Or when I was in a remote city in the Philippines and only white person I saw in two weeks was an Irish person. Or even if you walk down a street in some European city, you find an Irish accent fairly quickly.

Maphisto

Triangla wrote: »

I would say xenophobic more than racist.

Looks like they sat down and put their own spin on the swastika there too.

An unemployed graphics designer?

darkpagandeath

Nodin wrote: »

Nothing "nearly" about it. It's classic anti-Semitism.

That word is chucked around far to much now.

Nodin

darkpagandeath wrote: »

That word is chucked around far to much now.

Hilarious.

The graffiti was text book classic anti-Semitism.

Looks like the Google Chrome logo to me.

folan

darkpagandeath wrote: »

That word is chucked around far to much now.

aye. and racism. shocking.

sure if you are not unhappy about people of a different race, religion or anything else in your area, sure then you'd be weird.

</sarcasm>

Tabnabs

Oink wrote: »

I am more interested in the symbol at the end of it.
Looks like a politically-correct'ed Swastika to me. When you link that you the anti-Israel slogan and the "us poor Irish are hard done by in our own country"....

I think it may be a stylised St Bridgits cross. It's common enough for neo-nazi and supremacist groups to hijack ancient cultural and religious symbols for their own identity and propaganda.

lintdrummer

The One Doctor wrote: »

It's all spelled correctly too.

bumper234 wrote: »

I for one am more.shocked that an idiot who would post graffiti like that has managed to do.so without any spelling mistakes.

Well they did forget the "N" in "OWN" in picture number 2.

RayM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Ah the old mind readers are out. Proof ? Unless you can link to this groups website or something that shows them up as Racist.

You seem to be stretching the concept of 'giving someone the benefit of the doubt' to whole new levels.

kiffer

Oink wrote: »

I am more interested in the symbol at the end of it.
Looks like a politically-correct'ed Swastika to me. When you link that you the anti-Israel slogan and the "us poor Irish are hard done by in our own country"....

I think it's meant to be a St. Bridget's cross in a circle... aka a Sun Cross...
My mind went quickly to Swastika but then I took a second look.

darkpagandeath

Friend Computer wrote: »

Okay, why don't you tell us what it's about then, since you're clearly incapable of reading any kind of subtext.

I Don't have to, I don't Feel the need to shout about Racism for other groups. That may have no Issue with it. To Many people get Faux outrage for other people. It’s the new opiate of the Masses.

Red Nissan

Oink wrote: »

I am more interested in the symbol at the end of it.
Looks like a politically-correct'ed Swastika to me. When you link that you the anti-Israel slogan and the "us poor Irish are hard done by in our own country"....

I looks like the St Bridget's Cross to me.

folan

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I Don't have to, I don't Feel the need to shout about Racism for other groups. That may have no Issue with it. To Many people get Faux outrage for other people. It’s the new opiate of the Masses.

nope, we still like opium

Tabnabs

I understand this may be the work of the Irish Nationalist Brotherhood, a great bunch of lads no doubt.

Lux23

I always find it hilarious when things like this turn up and pedants try to defend it because 'it is not technically racist'. So what is then? Xenophobia, social commentary? One poster says it's an argument? But what kind of argument it it?

Dravokivich

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Ah the old mind readers are out. Proof ? Unless you can link to this groups website or something that shows them up as Racist.

When I read it, I immediately thought it was someone who was loudly exclaiming they don't feel like they have any kind of association with their nationality as their nation chooses to respect others more than it's citizens.

Then I saw the logo at the end of it. There may not be a significant group partaking in this. Maybe only a handful of people. But the intention is clearly to undermine the position of those foreign to this nation. Not to hold the nation accountable to it's citizens as a cursory glance would suggest.

Oink

Tabnabs wrote: »

I think it may be a stylised St Bridgits cross. It's common enough for neo-nazi and supremacist groups to hijack ancient cultural and religious symbols for their own identity and propaganda.

kiffer wrote: »

[...]My mind went quickly to Swastika [...]

I rest my case...

EDIT: Unless they also say novenas at the weekend. In which case I stand corrected.

Lux23

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I Don't have to, I don't Feel the need to shout about Racism for other groups. That may have no Issue with it. To Many people get Faux outrage for other people. It’s the new opiate of the Masses.

So let me ask you this? You are walking down the street and you witness a person of colour getting racist abuse from a couple of teenagers. Do you interfere or do you just walk on assuming that the person isn't really that offended?

I think your viewpoint is a mistake, people aren't necessarily offended by these racist signs, maybe they are upset by them? They represent something a lot uglier in our society than something lefties can get offended over their hummus and crackers.

anncoates

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I wouldn't be wrong in saying i feel like a tourist at times in Dublin city center..

Culchies have a right to visit Dublin too.



I suppose.

noodler

Jesus, if this is is what you consdier shocking, check out Harmonstown or Killester Dart Stations.

Regularly see stuff like "no jobs for paddies" etc

Friend Computer

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I Don't have to

But you have no problem telling us what it's not. Right.

Could it be you know exactly what it is but you don't want to say because you know how people are going to react?

I don't have to say that's what you're thinking so I'm not saying it.

whiskeyman

cisk wrote: »

Looks like the Google Chrome logo to me.

thought the same!
Perhaps it's a quirky viral marketing message.
Next week... 'don't feel like a stragner anymore.... search for meetups and check maps with Chrome'.

kunst nugget

noodler wrote: »

Jesus, if this is is what you consdier shocking, check out Harmonstown or Killester Dart Stations.

Regularly see stuff like "no jobs for paddies" etc

Thank God there's plenty of jobs for Micks though…

Gatling

Where's shocking exactly

darkpagandeath

Lux23 wrote: »

I always find it hilarious when things like this turn up and pedants try to defend it because 'it is not technically racist'. So what is then? Xenophobia, social commentary? One poster says it's an argument? But what kind of argument it it?

I was not Born here, I find It quite hilarious that people immediately jump on Their high horse Demanding reading into subtext or motives. When it could just as easily be someone Trolling to get people outraged. Notice no "Immigrants out" and so on. Notice other people getting outraged for other groups, When the other groups take it for what it is Ramblings.

NIMAN

You're easily 'shocked'.

How Soon Is Now

kunst nugget wrote: »

You're taking the Morrissey thing a bit far…

Go on........ Explain.

FTA69

bumper234 wrote: »

Not shocking.

Mildly racist.

Slightly offensive.

I for one am more.shocked that an idiot who would post graffiti like that has managed to do.so without any spelling mistakes.

Saying the Jews control world banking accompanied with a neo-Naziesque cross is more than "mildly" racist.

GLaDOS

I find it difficult to interpret it in a way that isn't xenophobic/racist.

Wouldn't say it's shocking though.

kunst nugget

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Go on........ Explain.

Seriously? There was the famous quote from the 2007 NME interview that mirrored almost exactly what you said…

With the issue of immigration, it's very difficult because, although I don't have anything against people from other countries, the higher the influx into England the more the British identity disappears," he said. "If you walk through Knightsbridge on any bland day of the week you won't hear an English accent. You'll hear every accent under the sun apart from the British accent."

England is a memory now. The gates are flooded and anybody can have access to England and join in."

And, you know, the username…

Nemeses

Tabnabs wrote: »

I understand this may be the work of the Irish Nationalist Brotherhood, a great bunch of lads no doubt.

I wouldn't worry about one individual mad-man...