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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Gavlor wrote: »
    Not if he had 3:40 in mind?

    Yeah, I'd still say should be 20 seconds slower. I'd also wonder what pace the other runs in the week were done at.


  • Registered Users Posts: 31 JPlinders


    RayCun wrote: »
    Yeah, I'd still say should be 20 seconds slower. I'd also wonder what pace the other runs in the week were done at.

    Re. the 4 LSRs

    1st was definitely 9.5 min/mile consistent
    2nd was 9min/mile
    3rd was a monster run with about 5 miles uphill at one point. I was out for 4hrs easily that day and was about 6 weeks out from DCM so was thrilled I had that banked.
    4th was about the 9 min mark but watch died so not 100% accurate

    Did 15 mile lsrs the weeks inbetween the 20 milers to aid recovery

    Other runs:

    10m was 8.5-8.75 min per mile
    5m basically was as fast as I could… only stopping if the traffic was against me. Approx 7.5 min/miles
    5m hill running


  • Registered Users Posts: 49 mathso


    JPlinders wrote: »
    Re. the 4 LSRs

    1st was definitely 9.5 min/mile consistent
    2nd was 9min/mile
    3rd was a monster run with about 5 miles uphill at one point. I was out for 4hrs easily that day and was about 6 weeks out from DCM so was thrilled I had that banked.
    4th was about the 9 min mark but watch died so not 100% accurate

    Did 15 mile lsrs the weeks inbetween the 20 milers to aid recovery

    Other runs:

    10m was 8.5-8.75 min per mile
    5m basically was as fast as I could… only stopping if the traffic was against me. Approx 7.5 min/miles
    5m hill running

    Maybe we are flogging this poor guy to death , sometimes it's just not your day . Took me 25 attempts to finally break 3.30
    Once you get the first sub 4 you'll be knocking them out regularly . I ran 7 sub 3.30 last year .
    Enjoy your recovery and pick a race for early next year
    I recommend the Dondea 50k in Feb


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    JPlinders wrote: »
    Re. the 4 LSRs

    1st was definitely 9.5 min/mile consistent
    2nd was 9min/mile
    3rd was a monster run with about 5 miles uphill at one point. I was out for 4hrs easily that day and was about 6 weeks out from DCM so was thrilled I had that banked.
    4th was about the 9 min mark but watch died so not 100% accurate

    Did 15 mile lsrs the weeks inbetween the 20 milers to aid recovery

    Other runs:

    10m was 8.5-8.75 min per mile
    5m basically was as fast as I could… only stopping if the traffic was against me. Approx 7.5 min/miles
    5m hill running

    Go, buy Advanced Marathoning by Pfitzinger and Douglas. Read it, digest it, read it again and then follow the 18 week plan that goes up to 55m. All other things being equal you'll demolish your PB.


  • Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭dcorcaigh


    Bib No.| Username | PB | Predicted Time | Actual Time | Behind/Ahead Target
    2005|yaboya1|2:59:11|2:59:10|3:08:42|
    42 |Tunguska|2:38:40|2:38:39|
    2328|jebuz|2:54:46|2:43:00|2:46:59|
    |Netwerk Errer|3:15:29|2:59:59|
    |Paddybarry|N/A|2:55|2.55.28|
    5116 |Adrian522|N/A|3:48:00|3:49:23|
    |Canine Marathoner|3.09.xx|2:59.59|3:19|
    |Fraggle00|4.05.xx|3.45.00|
    |xElDeeX|4:09:xx|3:47:00|3:54:19|
    |Bahanaman|2:57:52 *|2:59:59|3:02:19|
    |dublin runner|2:50:35|2:43:00 <|2:52:48|
    |chavezychavez|3:20:57|3:20:00|3:40:22|
    3313|RayCun|2:59:06|2:55|2:56:42|
    |AuldManKing||3:40:10|
    |fletch|3:16:26|3:14:59|3:21:34|
    |DogSlySmile|2:59:59|2:49:59|DNF|
    |Endurancer123|3:25:59|3:19:59|
    |Mr Freeze|3:50:11|3:38:00|3:49:33|
    |Plodman|3:17:22|2:49:59|
    |dcorcaigh|4:19:40|3:49:49|3:47:34|
    |Pacing Mule| 5:36:53|4:19:00|
    |Martyoo| |3:55:00|
    |geodesic|3:44:17|3:59:59|3:56:58|
    |Killian Byrne|4:30:26|4:29:59|
    |Toblerone1978|3:05:23|2:59:59|2:59:11|
    |snailsong|3:12:32|3:09:30|3:27:28|
    |Tyrone_03|3:52:18|3:44:59|3:40:52|
    5394|skeleton_boy|3:28:02|2:54:59|
    |overthebridge|4:23:xx|4:19:59|
    5989|davedanon|3:17:15|3:14:59|3:45:09|
    |rockstar_91|N/A|4:19:59|
    |Crisco10|n/a|3:25:00|3.24.49|
    |Bladeserver|4:26:01|4:10:00|
    |run_Forrest_run|3:03:31|2:59:59|3:03:31|
    5376|JohnDozer|4:09:05|3:44:59|4:07:35|
    |Cabaal|3:33:33|3:19:59|
    |Basster|3:35:09|3:08:00|3:18:07|
    918|MacSwifty|3:29:16|3:35:00|3:36:30|
    |bugsy2000|3:26:26|3:17:59|
    2243|Downtime|4:00:58|3:57:00|
    |Figlen|4:22:00|3:39:59|
    |Sideswipe|3:15:33|3:09:59|
    3483|neilc|3:10:28|3:10:00<|3:14:25|
    |Running Fool|3:35:07|3:29:59|
    |PaulieC|3:28:31|3:09:59|
    |TakeaBowSon|3:25:04|3:19:59|
    |JohnnyDun|4:01:10|3:58:00|4:07:30|
    |PeterParker100|3:49:11|3:45:00|
    3325|Slow_Runner|4:10:32|3:55:00|4:22:11|
    9833|Saucyjack|4:33:34|4:15:00|4:08:26|
    |Tigerandahalf|N/A|3:19:59|3.18:20|
    1523|echancrure|3:14:15|2:59:59|DNF|
    |Narco0o0o0o|N/A|2:45 <|2.48.03|
    |amcgee|3:26|3:35|
    |Jay D|N/A|3:57:26|4:31:51|
    |kingQuez|2:58|3:10:00 <| 2:55|
    |alsoran|4:52:xx|4:19:59|
    |Tetney|3:43:31|3:29:59 <|
    |wobblemouth|3:01:16|2:59:59 <|
    |jahaco|3:11:49|3:09:59 <|3:15:49|
    |shoottherunner|3:10:56|3:11:00 <|
    10081|clickhere |N/A |4:29:59 |4:16:12|
    |bonaparte2|2.59.17|2:59:00 <|DNF|
    |MaggotBrain|N/A|4:10:00|
    |ciaranmac|N/A|4:59:59|
    |Calvin Johnson|3:34:48|3:14:59|
    |Badda Bing|4:31:30|4:10:00|
    |Trampas|3:28:57|3:19:59|
    |Ecoenergy|3:40:28|3:29:59|3:29:24|
    |Nem_e|3:57:43|3:29:59|
    |JoeyRamone|3:39:50|3:09:50|
    |hawkwing|3:58:30|4:09:59|
    |Tipp man running|3:19:38|3:09:55
    263|menoscemo (pacer)|3:04:58|3:39:40|
    1792|James Howlett|3:51:10|3:29:59|3:36:06|
    4409|FOXFISH1|3:56:58|3:39:59|4:07:57|
    6361|philroche|3:51:35|3:35:59|3:37:35|
    1899|valoren|3:45:00|3:39:59|3:57:27|



    4th time, hopefully my time wont disappear again!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 31 JPlinders


    mathso wrote: »
    Maybe we are flogging this poor guy to death , sometimes it's just not your day . Took me 25 attempts to finally break 3.30
    Once you get the first sub 4 you'll be knocking them out regularly . I ran 7 sub 3.30 last year .
    Enjoy your recovery and pick a race for early next year
    I recommend the Dondea 50k in Feb

    Cheers Mathso, I don't mind the flogging, I'd rather lay myself bare here and get critiqued and come away with a "paint by numbers" approach of the changes I need to make. Its actually a little reassuring that it's drawing out some debate because it tells me that I didn't do a HUGE amount wrong in preparation. If it was just not my day then I'll eat that and go again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    JPlinders wrote: »
    Cheers Mathso, I don't mind the flogging, I'd rather lay myself bare here and get critiqued and come away with a "paint by numbers" approach of the changes I need to make. Its actually a little reassuring that it's drawing out some debate because it tells me that I didn't do a HUGE amount wrong in preparation. If it was just not my day then I'll eat that and go again.

    I've done 3, aimed for sub 4 each time. First was 4:14 which I was happy with, second was much better trained for, proper plan and hit 4:40, third followed P&D and got 4:08. That was DCM 2012. I've done a few halfs since but fitness is gone, an getting back into it now for attempt no 4 & 5 in 2015.

    I guess my point is, if you are passionate about hitting your target and it sounds like you are by your disappointment, then take a break and get back into it, don't let it dwell. 3:40 sounds optimistic so aim for sub 4 next, little steps. My half PB was 1:42 but still can't get sub 4. Get sub 4 first to help you remove the mental fear and then go again for 3:50 or 3:40.


  • Registered Users Posts: 684 ✭✭✭Toblerone1978


    Clearlier wrote: »
    Go, buy Advanced Marathoning by Pfitzinger and Douglas. Read it, digest it, read it again and then follow the 18 week plan that goes up to 55m. All other things being equal you'll demolish your PB.

    Given your times at 10 miles and half-marathon, I don't think your target of 3h 40m was overly agressive and as a previous poster said, it probably wasn't your day on Monday, like many others. As people with more experience pointed out, there doesn't seem to be a huge problem with your training.

    I done 5 marathons before I followed a structured plan, which I did for my 6th marathon this year. So I'm in a good positioin to point out the difference was immense. I strongly support Clearlier's advance of getting this book - not only will a structure plan bring you on but it will freshen you up mentally as the different type of workouts keeps it interesting.

    Also, keep coming back to this forum for advice or if you have any questions. There is a lot of knowledgeable running people on this forum who are very generous with their advice + time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    JPlinders wrote: »
    ...runs...

    All of your running was faster than marathon pace, close to marathon pace, or on hills (so marathon effort or harder). Most of your running should be easier, a general guide is 80% of your mileage at a minute/mile slower than marathon pace, and then specific sessions at a harder effort. I agree with the recommendation of Pfitziger & Douglas above


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭ooter


    I followed p+d's 55 mile plan for Monday,it was only my 2nd marathon and I got an almost 12 min pb.:)
    I'll probably follow it again if I ever do another marathon,would love to give the 55-70 mile programme a bash to see how much more time I could knock off my pb but the thought of running 6 days a week doesn't really appeal to me.:eek:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Supernintento Chalmers


    Clearlier wrote: »
    It's a classic mistake but you probably ran your race in your 19 mile run.

    I'm curious about this.
    Do you mean that him doing a fast 19 mile run, 3 weeks before the marathon had a negative impact on race day?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭viperlogic


    ooter wrote: »
    I followed p+d's 55 mile plan for Monday,it was only my 2nd marathon and I got an almost 12 min pb.:)
    I'll probably follow it again if I ever do another marathon,would love to give the 55-70 mile programme a bash to see how much more time I could knock off my pb but the thought of running 6 days a week doesn't really appeal to me.:eek:

    I can certainly vouch for P&D after trying Hal and JD programs. Good few of us here follow/followed it. P&D 55-70 got me from 3:26 to 2:58 in 5 months this year. I believe the mid week long run is a big component of its success.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,130 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    I followed the BAA Intermediate plan for this cycle. I certainly like to give the P&D 55-70 plan a go. Just wondering would it be possible to combine this with the normal club sessions or not?

    I guess I should read the book !


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭ooter


    Jaysus well done viperlogic,serious improvement.


  • Registered Users Posts: 497 ✭✭Bugsy2000


    Bib No.| Username | PB | Predicted Time | Actual Time | Behind/Ahead Target
    2005|yaboya1|2:59:11|2:59:10|3:08:42|
    42 |Tunguska|2:38:40|2:38:39|
    2328|jebuz|2:54:46|2:43:00|2:46:59|
    |Netwerk Errer|3:15:29|2:59:59|
    |Paddybarry|N/A|2:55|2.55.28|
    5116 |Adrian522|N/A|3:48:00|3:49:23|
    |Canine Marathoner|3.09.xx|2:59.59|3:19|
    |Fraggle00|4.05.xx|3.45.00|
    |xElDeeX|4:09:xx|3:47:00|3:54:19|
    |Bahanaman|2:57:52 *|2:59:59|3:02:19|
    |dublin runner|2:50:35|2:43:00 <|2:52:48|
    |chavezychavez|3:20:57|3:20:00|3:40:22|
    3313|RayCun|2:59:06|2:55|2:56:42|
    |AuldManKing||3:40:10|
    |fletch|3:16:26|3:14:59|3:21:34|
    |DogSlySmile|2:59:59|2:49:59|DNF|
    |Endurancer123|3:25:59|3:19:59|
    |Mr Freeze|3:50:11|3:38:00|3:49:33|
    |Plodman|3:17:22|2:49:59|
    |dcorcaigh|4:19:40|3:49:49|3:47:34|
    |Pacing Mule| 5:36:53|4:19:00|
    |Martyoo| |3:55:00|
    |geodesic|3:44:17|3:59:59|3:56:58|
    |Killian Byrne|4:30:26|4:29:59|
    |Toblerone1978|3:05:23|2:59:59|2:59:11|
    |snailsong|3:12:32|3:09:30|3:27:28|
    |Tyrone_03|3:52:18|3:44:59|3:40:52|
    5394|skeleton_boy|3:28:02|2:54:59|
    |overthebridge|4:23:xx|4:19:59|
    5989|davedanon|3:17:15|3:14:59|3:45:09|
    |rockstar_91|N/A|4:19:59|
    |Crisco10|n/a|3:25:00|3.24.49|
    |Bladeserver|4:26:01|4:10:00|
    |run_Forrest_run|3:03:31|2:59:59|3:03:31|
    5376|JohnDozer|4:09:05|3:44:59|4:07:35|
    |Cabaal|3:33:33|3:19:59|
    |Basster|3:35:09|3:08:00|3:18:07|
    918|MacSwifty|3:29:16|3:35:00|3:36:30|
    |bugsy2000|3:26:26|3:17:59|3:53:xx|
    2243|Downtime|4:00:58|3:57:00|
    |Figlen|4:22:00|3:39:59|
    |Sideswipe|3:15:33|3:09:59|
    3483|neilc|3:10:28|3:10:00<|3:14:25|
    |Running Fool|3:35:07|3:29:59|
    |PaulieC|3:28:31|3:09:59|
    |TakeaBowSon|3:25:04|3:19:59|
    |JohnnyDun|4:01:10|3:58:00|4:07:30|
    |PeterParker100|3:49:11|3:45:00|
    3325|Slow_Runner|4:10:32|3:55:00|4:22:11|
    9833|Saucyjack|4:33:34|4:15:00|4:08:26|
    |Tigerandahalf|N/A|3:19:59|3.18:20|
    1523|echancrure|3:14:15|2:59:59|DNF|
    |Narco0o0o0o|N/A|2:45 <|2.48.03|
    |amcgee|3:26|3:35|
    |Jay D|N/A|3:57:26|4:31:51|
    |kingQuez|2:58|3:10:00 <| 2:55|
    |alsoran|4:52:xx|4:19:59|
    |Tetney|3:43:31|3:29:59 <|
    |wobblemouth|3:01:16|2:59:59 <|
    |jahaco|3:11:49|3:09:59 <|3:15:49|
    |shoottherunner|3:10:56|3:11:00 <|
    10081|clickhere |N/A |4:29:59 |4:16:12|
    |bonaparte2|2.59.17|2:59:00 <|DNF|
    |MaggotBrain|N/A|4:10:00|
    |ciaranmac|N/A|4:59:59|
    |Calvin Johnson|3:34:48|3:14:59|
    |Badda Bing|4:31:30|4:10:00|
    |Trampas|3:28:57|3:19:59|
    |Ecoenergy|3:40:28|3:29:59|3:29:24|
    |Nem_e|3:57:43|3:29:59|
    |JoeyRamone|3:39:50|3:09:50|
    |hawkwing|3:58:30|4:09:59|
    |Tipp man running|3:19:38|3:09:55
    263|menoscemo (pacer)|3:04:58|3:39:40|
    1792|James Howlett|3:51:10|3:29:59|3:36:06|
    4409|FOXFISH1|3:56:58|3:39:59|4:07:57|
    6361|philroche|3:51:35|3:35:59|3:37:35|
    1899|valoren|3:45:00|3:39:59|3:57:27|



    Dying with a sinus infection today & shivering like I'm stuck in the arctic so possibly explains why I blew up so early on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭PVincent


    I wasn't running on Monday but was involved in stewarding in the last couple of 100 yards. I take my hat off to each and everyone who finished on Monday. It was not a pretty picture and rarely have I seen so many experienced club runners in such difficulty.

    What faced you on Monday at 9am , was a freak in our weather. 17 degrees at 9am is even rare in summer, and the killer was not the wind but the humidity which from some reports was in excess of 85%.

    For some of the inexperienced I am certain that a vast amount of them were overdressed with layers.

    In the humidity , excessive sweating occurs, and so despite what appeared to be ok conditions , the faster club runners would have been very quickly soaked in sweat , unlike in normal conditions , you might take a few miles to get warm. In fact in Dublin more often than not , a lot will keep an extra top on, gloves and maybe even a hat, for the first few miles. Monday was not like that and no amount of prep would have attuned the body for that eventuality.

    So excessive sweating will lead to a loss of minerals , in particular salt, and you can drink all the water you like , and take lucozade sport and gels, but that won't replace salt. When you lose that from the body , it makes you very prone to cramping . The minerals help to regulate the water retention in your body so with nothing there all that water just goes straight in and out again in sweat. So you also get dehydrated quicker. Taking salt tablets is certainly one way of counteracting the effect but not sure how many would have them in the back pocket. ( there must be someone on the forum who has experience in conditions like this and taken stuff to help)

    So I am certain this is why so many were in difficulty so early on . The rumour is that about 2000 people DNF which is an astounding stat . But it was nothing to do with the course , it was all to do with the freak weather.

    So massive kudos to those who got it done, even better if you managed a PB , but to those who struggled in the conditions, it was just bad luck that the weather played a tough part in the race, and as we have said to our own club runners , don't spend too much time analysing it , because it is highly unlikely that you will ever get similar conditions in Dublin in late October ( I hope) .

    Just my own views


  • Registered Users Posts: 606 ✭✭✭echancrure


    PVincent wrote: »
    The rumour is that about 2000 people DNF which is an astounding stat

    Astonishing if true I think.

    I am one of those DNF and not having enough respect for the distance was my mistake: I need to detect the early sign of distress or my mind goes blank and I keep pushing like a headless chicken.

    Me looking good after (1523) after 0.00001 miles


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 336 ✭✭Creative Juices


    ooter wrote: »
    I followed p+d's 55 mile plan for Monday,it was only my 2nd marathon and I got an almost 12 min pb.:)
    I'll probably follow it again if I ever do another marathon,would love to give the 55-70 mile programme a bash to see how much more time I could knock off my pb but the thought of running 6 days a week doesn't really appeal to me.:eek:

    Where do I get information on this P+D training program?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    I'm curious about this.
    Do you mean that him doing a fast 19 mile run, 3 weeks before the marathon had a negative impact on race day?

    Yes. It takes a while to recover fully from a big effort anf 19 miles at 25 seconds faster than marathon pace is a very big effort probably equivalent to a marathon at the OP's intended marathon pace.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    Where do I get information on this P+D training program?

    Best thing to do is to buy the book. It's called Advanced Marathoning by Pfitzinger and Douglas.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,551 ✭✭✭chinguetti


    Well if 14,600 entered and 12,200 finished, 2,000 DNFs would be about right I would say.

    Friends along the course kept telling me about all the ambulances and first aid crews on the move. I don't recall seeing any of this due to my own crazy focus but there was a lot of people in the second half of Wave 1 wearing long sleeved tops with a vest. I remember standing at start line after 8.30 am wiping the sweat off my forehead with just a singlet so I can't imagine what state these folk were in by the time we got to the Park.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    Those 2000 includes those who did not start.

    Looks like approx 600 started and did not finish according to results on the tracking companies website.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭ooter


    Yeah I cramped up around the 18 mile mark and that never happens to me so found that really strange,also after the race I was cramping up for about a half hour.I also remember touching my arm at one stage and it was unusually warm and sweaty.can't say I found it too warm on Monday morning but I wouldn't be surprised if it played a big part.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,654 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    Those 2000 includes those who did not start.

    Looks like approx 600 started and did not finish according to results on the tracking companies website.
    ~290 by my count? http://www.tdl.ltd.uk/race-results.php?event=1806&page=123 - DNFs start there, 3 pages of results after that, ~100 per page

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭ger664


    I paced 4:10 and gained 2500 places from halfway. I have never seen such carnage on the course, people where dropping like flies walking etc. The weather had a huge part to play. Temp was 17 but the dew point was only 2 degrees lower which made for very difficult running conditions, even for experienced runners let alone those poor soles tackling the distance for the first time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    I was sweating buckets after only two miles. I'm never sure what effect humidity has, especially on an asthmatic like me, but I suppose if there's high humidity then the sweat doesn't evaporate so you don't cool down as much as you should. Personally I'm quite sensitive to heat when running. Is there any sense to this notion I have that the unseasonability of the weather, as opposed to the actual temperature, made a difference? We've all run races and whatnot through the summer, when we expect heat. Come October, when our bodies, if you like, are 'expecting' single-digit temperatures, does 17/18 degrees have a disproportionate effect?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Just a point on the humidity and sweating, the main problem is that your sweat doesn't evaporate as easily, this reducing its effectiveness of cooling you down.


  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭Plodman


    Bib No.| Username | PB | Predicted Time | Actual Time | Behind/Ahead Target
    2005|yaboya1|2:59:11|2:59:10|3:08:42|
    42 |Tunguska|2:38:40|2:38:39|
    2328|jebuz|2:54:46|2:43:00|2:46:59|
    |Netwerk Errer|3:15:29|2:59:59|
    |Paddybarry|N/A|2:55|2.55.28|
    5116 |Adrian522|N/A|3:48:00|3:49:23|
    |Canine Marathoner|3.09.xx|2:59.59|3:19|
    |Fraggle00|4.05.xx|3.45.00|
    |xElDeeX|4:09:xx|3:47:00|3:54:19|
    |Bahanaman|2:57:52 *|2:59:59|3:02:19|
    |dublin runner|2:50:35|2:43:00 <|2:52:48|
    |chavezychavez|3:20:57|3:20:00|3:40:22|
    3313|RayCun|2:59:06|2:55|2:56:42|
    |AuldManKing||3:40:10|
    |fletch|3:16:26|3:14:59|3:21:34|
    |DogSlySmile|2:59:59|2:49:59|DNF|
    |Endurancer123|3:25:59|3:19:59|
    |Mr Freeze|3:50:11|3:38:00|3:49:33|
    |Plodman|3:17:22|2:49:59|2:52:37|
    |dcorcaigh|4:19:40|3:49:49|3:47:34|
    |Pacing Mule| 5:36:53|4:19:00|
    |Martyoo| |3:55:00|
    |geodesic|3:44:17|3:59:59|3:56:58|
    |Killian Byrne|4:30:26|4:29:59|
    |Toblerone1978|3:05:23|2:59:59|2:59:11|
    |snailsong|3:12:32|3:09:30|3:27:28|
    |Tyrone_03|3:52:18|3:44:59|3:40:52|
    5394|skeleton_boy|3:28:02|2:54:59|
    |overthebridge|4:23:xx|4:19:59|
    5989|davedanon|3:17:15|3:14:59|3:45:09|
    |rockstar_91|N/A|4:19:59|
    |Crisco10|n/a|3:25:00|3.24.49|
    |Bladeserver|4:26:01|4:10:00|
    |run_Forrest_run|3:03:31|2:59:59|3:03:31|
    5376|JohnDozer|4:09:05|3:44:59|4:07:35|
    |Cabaal|3:33:33|3:19:59|
    |Basster|3:35:09|3:08:00|3:18:07|
    918|MacSwifty|3:29:16|3:35:00|3:36:30|
    |bugsy2000|3:26:26|3:17:59|3:53:xx|
    2243|Downtime|4:00:58|3:57:00|
    |Figlen|4:22:00|3:39:59|
    |Sideswipe|3:15:33|3:09:59|
    3483|neilc|3:10:28|3:10:00<|3:14:25|
    |Running Fool|3:35:07|3:29:59|
    |PaulieC|3:28:31|3:09:59|
    |TakeaBowSon|3:25:04|3:19:59|
    |JohnnyDun|4:01:10|3:58:00|4:07:30|
    |PeterParker100|3:49:11|3:45:00|
    3325|Slow_Runner|4:10:32|3:55:00|4:22:11|
    9833|Saucyjack|4:33:34|4:15:00|4:08:26|
    |Tigerandahalf|N/A|3:19:59|3.18:20|
    1523|echancrure|3:14:15|2:59:59|DNF|
    |Narco0o0o0o|N/A|2:45 <|2.48.03|
    |amcgee|3:26|3:35|
    |Jay D|N/A|3:57:26|4:31:51|
    |kingQuez|2:58|3:10:00 <| 2:55|
    |alsoran|4:52:xx|4:19:59|
    |Tetney|3:43:31|3:29:59 <|
    |wobblemouth|3:01:16|2:59:59 <|
    |jahaco|3:11:49|3:09:59 <|3:15:49|
    |shoottherunner|3:10:56|3:11:00 <|
    10081|clickhere |N/A |4:29:59 |4:16:12|
    |bonaparte2|2.59.17|2:59:00 <|DNF|
    |MaggotBrain|N/A|4:10:00|
    |ciaranmac|N/A|4:59:59|
    |Calvin Johnson|3:34:48|3:14:59|
    |Badda Bing|4:31:30|4:10:00|
    |Trampas|3:28:57|3:19:59|
    |Ecoenergy|3:40:28|3:29:59|3:29:24|
    |Nem_e|3:57:43|3:29:59|
    |JoeyRamone|3:39:50|3:09:50|
    |hawkwing|3:58:30|4:09:59|
    |Tipp man running|3:19:38|3:09:55
    263|menoscemo (pacer)|3:04:58|3:39:40|
    1792|James Howlett|3:51:10|3:29:59|3:36:06|
    4409|FOXFISH1|3:56:58|3:39:59|4:07:57|
    6361|philroche|3:51:35|3:35:59|3:37:35|
    1899|valoren|3:45:00|3:39:59|3:57:27|



    Just added my time for the second time (also added in bib no)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭aero2k


    My race report is here. Race number 61 for pics etc.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭Blue Steel


    So basically Marathon running would be great if there was a device that measures your body state in real time and give you feedback on what you need to avoid collapse.
    Only prb is such a device doesn't exist.

    I was one of the DNF and because it was my first marathon, it has created a doubt that I will always keep in the back of my head.

    Thanks for your point of view PVincent. It helps my mental recovery :)

    PVincent wrote: »
    I wasn't running on Monday but was involved in stewarding in the last couple of 100 yards. I take my hat off to each and everyone who finished on Monday. It was not a pretty picture and rarely have I seen so many experienced club runners in such difficulty.

    What faced you on Monday at 9am , was a freak in our weather. 17 degrees at 9am is even rare in summer, and the killer was not the wind but the humidity which from some reports was in excess of 85%.

    For some of the inexperienced I am certain that a vast amount of them were overdressed with layers.

    In the humidity , excessive sweating occurs, and so despite what appeared to be ok conditions , the faster club runners would have been very quickly soaked in sweat , unlike in normal conditions , you might take a few miles to get warm. In fact in Dublin more often than not , a lot will keep an extra top on, gloves and maybe even a hat, for the first few miles. Monday was not like that and no amount of prep would have attuned the body for that eventuality.

    So excessive sweating will lead to a loss of minerals , in particular salt, and you can drink all the water you like , and take lucozade sport and gels, but that won't replace salt. When you lose that from the body , it makes you very prone to cramping . The minerals help to regulate the water retention in your body so with nothing there all that water just goes straight in and out again in sweat. So you also get dehydrated quicker. Taking salt tablets is certainly one way of counteracting the effect but not sure how many would have them in the back pocket. ( there must be someone on the forum who has experience in conditions like this and taken stuff to help)

    So I am certain this is why so many were in difficulty so early on . The rumour is that about 2000 people DNF which is an astounding stat . But it was nothing to do with the course , it was all to do with the freak weather.

    So massive kudos to those who got it done, even better if you managed a PB , but to those who struggled in the conditions, it was just bad luck that the weather played a tough part in the race, and as we have said to our own club runners , don't spend too much time analysing it , because it is highly unlikely that you will ever get similar conditions in Dublin in late October ( I hope) .

    Just my own views


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