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Stock makers/ engraving

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  • 23-05-2014 12:34pm
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    GtotheD
    Registered Users Posts: 31 ✭


    Hi everyone,

    Does anyone know of a stock maker around the midlands area, preferably Longford that does good work? I'm a left-hander shooting with a right-handed gun, and while I shoot fairly well with it as it is, I am quite curious if there are gains to be had with a left-handed stock. It's only a cheap enough first-buy gun, but one that I've fallen in love with!
    Also, side plate engraving; I was told by a jeweller that they could do it, but I'm not entirely sure about handing my gun into a jewellers...

    Any rough price estimates would also be appreciated.

    I do have a number for Pat Sludd in Wexford, but if there are any nearby with a good reputation, that would be great.


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    tac foley
    Registered Users Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Mr Sludd seems to be THE man to go to, if the many plaudits on this forum over the years are anything to go by.

    As for giving your FIREARM to a jewellers to engrave, well, that might pose real problems for both of you, unless the jeweller is a licensed gun-dealer who can officially and legally retain such an item. Does it not have removeable sideplates that would enable non-specifically-firearms parts to be worked on?

    AFAIK, any part that constitutes an actual working part of a firearm requires that a person working on it by having it in their care is licensed to do so.

    Gun-engraving is not something that most jewelers would undertake, at least here in UK, where we have gun-engravers who specialise in, well, engraving guns. Unless of course you want something like a machine-engraved name or something like that, like you see on a football or snooker trophy

    I might have this all wrong, of course...

    tac


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    Cass
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    I've been told on a few occasions that Pat does not does metal work on guns. Only timber work. Not sure if that has changed, but even if he did do the odd threading, etc. i've never heard of him being used for engraving.

    At the risk of stating the obvious, and bearing in mind you like your current gun, would taking the money you would spend on adjusting and engraving the current gun and putting it into a newer left hand model not be a better option?
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    GtotheD
    Registered Users Posts: 31 ✭GtotheD


    tac foley wrote: »

    As for giving your FIREARM to a jewellers to engrave, well, that might pose real problems for both of you, unless the jeweller is a licensed gun-dealer who can officially and legally retain such an item.
    tac

    It's for exactly that reason I was a bit apprehensive about going down that route..
    Have you had any engraving done? Any idea on price?


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    GtotheD
    Registered Users Posts: 31 ✭GtotheD


    That is a perfectly viable option Cass, but it's something of a (probably stupid) sentimentality! If the price of a stock wasn't too much, I would probably go for that over a new gun.


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    Cass
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    What make and model is the shotgun? I know someone with a few spare stocks that he has collected over the years. If he has the same make/model but in left hand cast then i might be able to get you a new stock and save the trouble and expense of paying upwards of €250 to have your current one adjusted/changed.

    Also in your opening post you ask about any gains. You say you are left handed, but are you left eye dominant? I know a few lads that are left handed, but shoot right handed because they are right eye dominant. How to check:
    1. Pick a spot on a wall/tv, etc. Something that doesn't move.
    2. With both eyes open place your finger in front of your face, about 12 inches away, and cover the spot on the wall.
    3. Now close one eye, then the other.
    4. If you close your right eye and can still see the spot then you're left eye dominant.
    5. Confirm by closing your left eye, and the spot should bee blocked by your finger.
    6. If it's the reverse then you are left right eye dominant.
    While you might have adjusted to this style of shooting if you are left eye dominant and shooting right handed you may be looking down the side of the gun and not along it. This could cause misses. It's best to have the gun suited to your style and needs rather than going against your natural instinct.
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    deerhunter1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭deerhunter1


    GtotheD wrote: »
    Hi everyone,

    Does anyone know of a stock maker around the midlands area, preferably Longford that does good work? I'm a left-hander shooting with a right-handed gun, and while I shoot fairly well with it as it is, I am quite curious if there are gains to be had with a left-handed stock. It's only a cheap enough first-buy gun, but one that I've fallen in love with!
    Also, side plate engraving; I was told by a jeweller that they could do it, but I'm not entirely sure about handing my gun into a jewellers...

    Any rough price estimates would also be appreciated.

    I do have a number for Pat Sludd in Wexford, but if there are any nearby with a good reputation, that would be great.
    Not really, I have been shooting all types of right handed guns from my left shoulder for at least 40yrs now with out any issues, last year i bought a left handed u/o new to see if there was a difference, did not see any or noticable difference


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    tac foley
    Registered Users Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    GtotheD wrote: »
    It's for exactly that reason I was a bit apprehensive about going down that route..
    Have you had any engraving done? Any idea on price?

    Never had any engraving done of any of my guns, but then I don't have, and never have had, any kind of a gun that had engraving on it anyway. Governments never seem to have put spiffy engraving on issue firearms of the kind that I favour. :)

    Cass has the right idea- this work you want done may cost you as much as a replacement southpaw version of whatever it is that you have already. Certainly, here in UK bespoke engraving can easily run into many thousands of £££.

    tac


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    pedroeibar1
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    Engraving is not an 'after-market' option. Realistically it cannot be done on existing sideplates after case hardening has taken place. Totally separate from the legal issue (correctly addressed above) the engraving done by a jeweller and an engraver are totally different processes. Buy yourself a new gun, don't waste money ruining what is a saleable product at the moment.


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    pedroeibar1
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    tac foley wrote: »
    Never had any engraving done of any of my guns,

    Some eye-candy for you Tac!


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    tac foley
    Registered Users Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    What a beautiful Spanish gun - what a joy it must be to handle and shoot.

    None of my firearms, except my Colt Walker, have any engraving of any kind - of course, they are either target rifles or military rifles or do-a-job-of-work rifles. The cylinder of most Colts of that time were 'roll-engraved' with a scene - a naval engagement, a bunch of guys lepping around the countryside chasing injuns, or a stage-coach scen with the injuns getting their own back, but it wasn't hand-done.

    Over in OR my Model 78 has a VERY thin line inlaid gold line around the action, and a thin double gold band around the breech and muzzle - but that doesn't really count as engraving.

    tac


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