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De Boer or Pochettino

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  • 26-05-2014 12:51pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 610 ✭✭✭


    It seems to be one or the other.....

    Just say your preference, no reasons needed.

    Pottechino.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭slegs


    Id be happy enough with either


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭Hatch99


    Poch.
    Simply based on the fact he has Prem experience and DB doesn't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭mushykeogh


    Pochy, but its 50/50 really.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    mushykeogh wrote: »
    Pochy, but its 50/50 really.

    Poch, for no reason other than liking the cut of his jib


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭Bodie Doyle


    De Boer

    Poch has done nothing in management.
    Why are we after him again?
    He managed Espanyol to 10th position, 8th and then 13th?
    He got Southampton up to the dizzying heights of 8th in the Premier league.
    Is he the man to take us forward? Can you see him guiding us into the top 4?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,432 ✭✭✭Charliebull


    all reports are pointing towards pooch,

    i hope i am wrong, but i dont think he is the one


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭DubPerryman


    He got Southampton up to the dizzying heights of 8th in the Premier league.

    You could phrase that differently.

    They were three points above relegation when he took over. If he leaves tomorrow he leaves them 8th and 23 points above relegation.

    If he added 20 points to our season's total we'd be league champions! :cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭awkwardboy


    Poch, but only only the basis he is probably one of the very few managers who can get something out of Lamela and maybe even Soldado too. If he gets them two clicking we'll do half decent next season.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭DubPerryman


    awkwardboy wrote: »
    Poch, but only only the basis he is probably one of the very few managers who can get something out of Lamela and maybe even Soldado too. If he gets them two clicking we'll do half decent next season.

    Good point!


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    Is Pocchy really deserving of all the credit he's getting for the form of Lallana, Shaw etc...

    Genuine question. I mean, how can anyone say for sure. It's a bit like saying Harry Redknapp turned Bale into the player he is today.... you could argue that he did push him into a more attacking role and give him free reign at times but he's hardly the mastermind behind it all.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    Pochettino in talks with Spurs right now according to SSN.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭DubPerryman


    Is Pocchy really deserving of all the credit he's getting for the form of Lallana, Shaw etc...

    Fair question.

    No, not ALL the credit. Though, as they say, the proof is in the pudding.

    Southampton improved under Pochettino. The squad played better football, got better results and had 4 players called up to the England squad, where there was none before Pochettino joined.

    Would all the above happened if Nigel Adkins stayed in charge? I think it's safe to say "probably not".


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭Bodie Doyle


    You could phrase that differently.

    They were three points above relegation when he took over. If he leaves tomorrow he leaves them 8th and 23 points above relegation.

    If he added 20 points to our season's total we'd be league champions! :cool:

    with that reasoning we should go for Tony Pulis. Afterall he took Palace from bottom to mid table with an extra 20 points.......

    NB: do not want Tony Pulis at WHL.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭Ormus


    De Boer

    Poch has done nothing in management.
    Why are we after him again?
    He managed Espanyol to 10th position, 8th and then 13th?
    He got Southampton up to the dizzying heights of 8th in the Premier league.
    Is he the man to take us forward? Can you see him guiding us into the top 4?

    He has a record of improving teams, making them play nice football and bringing through young players.

    He's done that in La Liga and he's done it in the Premiership.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭KingdomYid


    I will get 100% behind the new man, which looks increasingly like being Poch. All I want is to see good fast tempo football and good tactical displays against the stronger teams in the league. If he is showing signs of this and not being destroyed by the top 4 teams then that will be positive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭same ol sh1te


    He's definitely worth a shot. Has PL experience and is a good tactitian. Southampton played good attacking football. They bet Liverpool once, drew with City and Arsenal once and drew with United twice. Aside from that he's worked under a chairman at Southampton and with a director of football. He's less of a gamble to FDB


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭Bodie Doyle


    Ormus wrote: »
    He has a record of improving teams, making them play nice football and bringing through young players.

    He's done that in La Liga and he's done it in the Premiership.


    He has yet to manage a team to above 8th place in either league.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,158 ✭✭✭frag420


    Pochetino has been confirmed as the new Spurs Manager!!

    5yr deal...which basically means fook all to Levy!! At least its done early and he has time to start bedding in with the team...

    COYS


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭Bodie Doyle


    He's definitely worth a shot. Has PL experience and is a good tactitian. Southampton played good attacking football. They bet Liverpool once, drew with City and Arsenal once and drew with United twice. Aside from that he's worked under a chairman at Southampton and with a director of football. He's less of a gamble to FDB

    Spurs beat Southampton twice last season with Tim Sherwood in charge.
    If he is as good a tactician/manager as people think, how did that happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭KingdomYid


    Spurs beat Southampton twice last season with Tim Sherwood in charge.
    If he is as good a tactician/manager as people think, how did that happen.

    I think all Spurs fans need to get behind him now, more negativity will get us nowhere now even if people are not happy with his appointment. COYS.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,019 ✭✭✭davycc


    Spurs beat Southampton twice last season with Tim Sherwood in charge.
    If he is as good a tactician/manager as people think, how did that happen.

    i remember we were very lucky to win both those games actually:)..timmay had a bit more luck than poor AVB..

    im delighted with the pochettino signing now :cool:nice to do important business early for once and not the last week of august as per foooking usual:o


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    He hasn't even managed a friendly for us yet and some of our fans think he's not good enough :rolleyes:

    He should be given a minimum of two years without an ounce of pressure put on him, instead Levy will likely pull the trigger after a run of a few bad defeats with some of our mongier fans roaring abuse at him and one or more of our players stropping their way through 90mins.

    Hope I'm wrong of course.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    davycc wrote: »
    i remember we were very lucky to win both those games actually:)..timmay had a bit more luck than poor AVB..

    im delighted with the pochettino signing now :cool:nice to do important business early for once and not the last week of august as per foooking usual:o

    Yep, that game at the lane was a bit of a calamity :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭same ol sh1te


    FWIW, it's not just Levy, Redknapps 3 year term as manager was the longest since Burkinshaw in the 70's


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭Hatch99


    KingdomYid wrote: »
    I think all Spurs fans need to get behind him now, more negativity will get us nowhere now even if people are not happy with his appointment. COYS.

    Agree mate. He should be given 2 seasons at least, time for some patience


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭yiddo59


    Good luck to him. He's gonna need it.
    COYS


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭positivenote


    http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/nov/22/mauricio-pochettino-southampton-espanyol

    having read this im on board the Poch bus. Hope he's given the time to develop and become a legend...
    coys


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭DubPerryman


    Good article!

    Agree with most of what's been said.... He needs to be given at least two years, hopefully the five year contract is Levy's way of offering such confidence.

    Maybe Poch knows what he is in for and insisted on at least a five year contract??


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭Ormus


    He has yet to manage a team to above 8th place in either league.

    He turned two clubs who were fighting relegation into top half teams in two of the strongest leagues in world football.

    The improvement in both clubs was significant.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭Ormus


    Spurs beat Southampton twice last season with Tim Sherwood in charge.
    If he is as good a tactician/manager as people think, how did that happen.

    Spurs have a much better squad than Southampton. Do you not realise Spurs finished comfortably ahead of them?


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