Can the book be beaten.....(part 2)

del roy

Starting Bank 40pts. €1200
Bank 40.5pts €1095
Profit -3.5pts -€105


Bet 1. 28/05/2014 Modem 2pts e/w 10/1 rule4 10c 2nd 7/2
Bet 2. 29/05/2014 Top Notch Tonto 2pts win 3/1 lost
Bet 3. 30/05/2014 Nelsons quay 2pts win 7/2 unpl
Bet 4. 30/05/2014 Fly solo 2pts win 4/1 1st
Bet 5 31/05/2014 Gramercy 2pts e/w. 9/1 lost
Bet 6 31/05/2014 Mica mika 2pts win. 5/1 lost
Bet 7 01/06/2014 5.15 suton sid 2pts e/w 12/1 lost


Don't forget lads he went to -18pts the last time before he turned it around.

ballinasloe1

True, in the kid (through Del) we trust! Better than trusting my tips for sure ;-)

bumper234

If it was easy we would all be doing it

del roy

4.50 Universal truth 2pts e/w 8/1
7.30 Morache Music 2pts e/w 10/1

matthew8

Bollix. Truth a faller early on having sat in last place.

Nulty

Nothing worse than a faller and having to watch the rest of the race. Last one I had was Houblon Des Obeaux in teh Bet365, fell at the first. :mad:

ballinasloe1

Morache Music drifting put to 17-1 on betfair. Probably due to ground drying out. Damn!

matthew8

22/1 on betfair now, but still only 10/1 on paddy so no guaranteed price bonus. They must have spotted this as a tipping line.

Edit: Just drifted to 20/1 on paddy power. This place is going to go berserk if he wins.

Nulty

matthew8 wrote: »

22/1 on betfair now, but still only 10/1 on paddy so no guaranteed price bonus. They must have spotted this as a tipping line.

Edit: Just drifted to 20/1 on paddy power. This place is going to go berserk if he wins.

Technically didn't drift. Oncourse prices have taken over

del roy

Atr just showed the head on, never put in race. :mad:

Nulty

He was making up ground twoards the end but never looked like threatening.

Could be an Ayr horse

del roy

Starting Bank 40pts. €1200
Bank 32.5pts €855
Profit -11.5pts -€345


Bet 1. 28/05/2014 Modem 2pts e/w 10/1 rule4 10c 2nd 7/2
Bet 2. 29/05/2014 Top Notch Tonto 2pts win 3/1 lost
Bet 3. 30/05/2014 Nelsons quay 2pts win 7/2 unpl
Bet 4. 30/05/2014 Fly solo 2pts win 4/1 1st
Bet 5 31/05/2014 Gramercy 2pts e/w. 9/1 lost
Bet 6 31/05/2014 Mica mika 2pts win. 5/1 lost
Bet 7 01/06/2014 Suton sid 2pts e/w 12/1 lost
Bet 8 02/06/2014 Universal truth 2pts e/w 8/1 lost
Bet 9 02/06/2014 Morache Music 2pts e/w 10/1 lost

Morachi Music 7th beaten 2L hd hd 1/4L 1/2L nk

del roy

4.40 Lutine Charlie 2pts e/w 7/1

del roy

Nulty wrote: »

He was making up ground twoards the end but never looked like threatening.

Could be an Ayr horse

entered in the wokingham at ascot this month.

matthew8

God damn it second place after leading well into the final furlong, but I'll take the place.

del roy

Starting Bank 40pts. €1200
Bank 33.7pts €891
Profit -10.3pts -€309


Bet 1. 28/05/2014 Modem 2pts e/w 10/1 rule4 10c 2nd 7/2
Bet 2. 29/05/2014 Top Notch Tonto 2pts win 3/1 lost
Bet 3. 30/05/2014 Nelsons quay 2pts win 7/2 unpl
Bet 4. 30/05/2014 Fly solo 2pts win 4/1 1st
Bet 5 31/05/2014 Gramercy 2pts e/w. 9/1 lost
Bet 6 31/05/2014 Mica mika 2pts win. 5/1 lost
Bet 7 01/06/2014 Suton sid 2pts e/w 12/1 lost
Bet 8 02/06/2014 Universal truth 2pts e/w 8/1 lost
Bet 9 02/06/2014 Morache Music 2pts e/w 10/1 lost
Bet 10 03/06/2014 Lutine Charlie 2pts e/w 7/1 2nd 8/1

del roy

Next bet

the derby 4.00 Epsom Snow Sky 2pts e/w 20/1

jobeenfitz

I was just on Paddy Power site and it states "anti post rules apply".
Does anyone know when this changes? Just in case snow sky is a non runner.

UrbanSea

jobeenfitz wrote: »

I was just on Paddy Power site and it states "anti post rules apply".
Does anyone know when this changes? Just in case snow sky is a non runner.

Friday meaning after final deca

guscon

jobeenfitz wrote: »

I was just on Paddy Power site and it states "anti post rules apply".
Does anyone know when this changes? Just in case snow sky is a non runner.

Looks like boylesports are NRNB, i think.backed with them anyway 20/1

Taff

UrbanSea wrote: »

Friday meaning after final deca

Thursday is the final declaration stage

Johner

Snow Sky is a doubt.

matthew8

The old antepost hasn't been doing the kid any favours recently. 10 points down the drain on tapestry and looks like another 4 down here.

liamoreilly

...Lads 4;50 Nottingham...number 3...its destined...the kid...

ballinasloe1

Reported in Daily Mail online just now that it is only a minor niggle for Snow Sky, will make decision in morning but much more likely to run now.....phew!

Taff

Snow Sky won't be declared

Themonkey

well the kid has done great but that was a terrible bet on snow sky for the sake of waiting a couple of days as his price was not going to get any shorter as he is a relatively exposed horse for this type of race 1 AUSTRALIA 2 KINGSTON HILL 3 GEOFFREY CHAUCER :D:D:D

del roy

Ante post the last 2 months
1000 guineas Tapestry 3pts e/w n.r
2000 guineas Karakontie 2pts e/w 33/1 n.r
The Oaks Tapestry 2pts e/w 12/1 n.r
the Derby Snow Sky 20/1 2pts e/w n.r

a loss of 18pts on the ante post bets, fu@k me thats some picking. :mad:


Starting Bank 40pts. €1200
Bank 29.7pts €771
Profit -14.2pts -€429


Bet 1. 28/05/2014 Modem 2pts e/w 10/1 rule4 10c 2nd 7/2
Bet 2. 29/05/2014 Top Notch Tonto 2pts win 3/1 lost
Bet 3. 30/05/2014 Nelsons quay 2pts win 7/2 unpl
Bet 4. 30/05/2014 Fly solo 2pts win 4/1 1st
Bet 5 31/05/2014 Gramercy 2pts e/w. 9/1 lost
Bet 6 31/05/2014 Mica mika 2pts win. 5/1 lost
Bet 7 01/06/2014 Suton sid 2pts e/w 12/1 lost
Bet 8 02/06/2014 Universal truth 2pts e/w 8/1 lost
Bet 9 02/06/2014 Morache Music 2pts e/w 10/1 lost
Bet 10 03/06/2014 Lutine Charlie 2pts e/w 7/1 2nd 8/1
Bet 11 Ante post Snow Sky 2pts e/w non runner lost

Nulty

That is a very bad run of luck for AP betting. 4 non runners in a row.

bumper234

Nulty wrote: »

That is a very bad run of luck for AP betting. 4 non runners in a row.

Sickening how they are basically allowed to steal money this way.

Taff

del roy wrote: »

Ante post the last 2 months
1000 guineas Tapestry 3pts e/w n.r

Tapestry did run in the Guineas

matthew8

Taff wrote: »

Tapestry did run in the Guineas

True but he may as well not have in that condition.

UrbanSea

bumper234 wrote: »

Sickening how they are basically allowed to steal money this way.

In fairness stealing is a bit of an exaggeration. No bookie is forcing you to back ante post, you know the risk you take when you back it

bumper234

UrbanSea wrote: »

In fairness stealing is a bit of an exaggeration. No bookie is forcing you to back ante post, you know the risk you take when you back it

An.sorry but stealing is the only word i can think of for keeping the money when a horse doesn't run. I also feel the same about about horses being pulled and considered to have been under orders and therefore have "been in the race". A horse should have to run 20.or 50 meters before being considered a runner imo. Bookies make enough cash from punters as is.

sdoc13

Seanie mc ans boyles were nrnb when advised same price. Just got refunded.

UrbanSea

bumper234 wrote: »

An.sorry but stealing is the only word i can think of for keeping the money when a horse doesn't run. I also feel the same about about horses being pulled and considered to have been under orders and therefore have "been in the race". A horse should have to run 20.or 50 meters before being considered a runner imo. Bookies make enough cash from punters as is.

Yeah I've sympathy for the second but disagree with the first. You know the risk you are taking when backing ante post, you're getting a better price in many cases hence the risk. If the punter wants to minimize the risk then wait until its NRNB

bumper234

UrbanSea wrote: »

Yeah I've sympathy for the second but disagree with the first. You know the risk you are taking when backing ante post, you're getting a better price in many cases hence the risk. If the punter wants to minimize the risk then wait until its NRNB

Yeah just bitter cos i got stung too many times o er the years

Nulty

Taff wrote: »

Tapestry did run in the Guineas

True. Still, I don't think I've ever had 3 in a row that didn't get a run. Maybe two.

jobeenfitz

Themonkey wrote: »

well the kid has done great but that was a terrible bet on snow sky for the sake of waiting a couple of days as his price was not going to get any shorter as he is a relatively exposed horse for this type of race 1 AUSTRALIA 2 KINGSTON HILL 3 GEOFFREY CHAUCER :D:D:D

I don't want to be speaking for anyone here but the tips we are getting are free and are only tips. Not instructions. We can make up our own minds and decide not to back or to wait til it is "non runner,no bet".

All losing bets are terrible(well maybe not terrible) but winning bets are great.

Gambling is a risk.

It is a big pain in the hhole though when ya don't get a run for your money.

del roy

4.00 Momentus 66/1 1pt e/w 4 places paddys/Ladbrokes

That's more like it kid, the big ones are what we want.

del roy

Starting Bank 40pts. €1200
Bank 27.7pts €711
Profit -16.2pts -€429


Bet 1. 28/05/2014 Modem 2pts e/w 10/1 rule4 10c 2nd 7/2
Bet 2. 29/05/2014 Top Notch Tonto 2pts win 3/1 lost
Bet 3. 30/05/2014 Nelsons quay 2pts win 7/2 unpl
Bet 4. 30/05/2014 Fly solo 2pts win 4/1 1st
Bet 5 31/05/2014 Gramercy 2pts e/w. 9/1 lost
Bet 6 31/05/2014 Mica mika 2pts win. 5/1 lost
Bet 7 01/06/2014 Suton sid 2pts e/w 12/1 lost
Bet 8 02/06/2014 Universal truth 2pts e/w 8/1 lost
Bet 9 02/06/2014 Morache Music 2pts e/w 10/1 lost
Bet 10 03/06/2014 Lutine Charlie 2pts e/w 7/1 2nd 8/1
Bet 11 Ante post Snow Sky 2pts e/w non runner lost
Bet 12 4.00 Momentus 66/1 1pt e/w 4 places lost

del roy

5.10 the confessor 2pts e/w 15/2

Nulty

Ran out of steam a furlong out. One Pace.

del roy

Hey kid if you can turn this very bad run around I will take my hat of to you. If I were in your shoes I would stop for a week and start next Tuesday the first day of Ascot, terrible bad run, I think you said somewhere in the other thread your
longest losing run of not collecting was 12 bets, we will be hitting that soon,
Not knocking ya btw, everyone has losing runs its part of gambling so keep the faith things will fall into place.

phil mccavity

del roy wrote: »

Hey kid if you can turn this very bad run around I will take my hat of to you. If I were in your shoes I would stop for a week and start next Tuesday the first day of Ascot, terrible bad run, I think you said somewhere in the other thread your
longest losing run of not collecting was 12 bets, we will be hitting that soon,
Not knocking ya btw, everyone has losing runs its part of gambling so keep the faith things will fall into place.

Why would you post a message to the kid here ?
If youtlr geting texts off him would you not just text the message to him ?

Looks a bit weird

del roy

phil mccavity wrote: »

Why would you post a message to the kid here ?
If youtlr geting texts off him would you not just text the message to him ?

Looks a bit weird

Phil if its ok with you I will post what I want on here, I started the thread.

del roy

Bets for me now €20 per point

Starting Bank 40pts. €1200
Bank 19.2pts €551
Profit -21.8pts -€649


Bet 1. 28/05/2014 Modem 2pts e/w 10/1 rule4 10c 2nd 7/2
Bet 2. 29/05/2014 Top Notch Tonto 2pts win 3/1 lost
Bet 3. 30/05/2014 Nelsons quay 2pts win 7/2 unpl
Bet 4. 30/05/2014 Fly solo 2pts win 4/1 1st
Bet 5 31/05/2014 Gramercy 2pts e/w. 9/1 lost
Bet 6 31/05/2014 Mica mika 2pts win. 5/1 lost
Bet 7 01/06/2014 Suton sid 2pts e/w 12/1 lost
Bet 8 02/06/2014 Universal truth 2pts e/w 8/1 lost
Bet 9 02/06/2014 Morache Music 2pts e/w 10/1 lost
Bet 10 03/06/2014 Lutine Charlie 2pts e/w 7/1 2nd 8/1
Bet 11 Ante post Snow Sky 2pts e/w non runner lost
Bet 12 06/06/2014 Momentus 66/1 1pt e/w 4 places lost
Bet 13 08/06/2014 the confessor 2pts e/w 15/2 lost

phil mccavity

del roy wrote: »

Phil if its ok with you I will post what I want on here, I started the thread.

No bother ,was a genuine question ,and ,as its a public forum i can comment and question any poster or thread once i stay within the charter and forum rules .
Keep up the good work

del roy

Phil If you read the other thread you would realise thats the way I reply to him,
on here.
Maybe you could have read some of the first thread before you replied on here but hey no problem..

phil mccavity

I have followed from the start ,havent punted the tips , but am well familiar with the first thread and in it you say you work with him , so was asking the question why you would send him a message in boards when you work and text him . looks weird to me but if thats how it usually is thats the answer .
brst if luck