Ulster Bank League 2014-2015 talk/gossip/rumours

Braken

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Nap?

Racing term...best bet

The Lost Sheep

Braken wrote: »

Racing term...best bet

Too hard to say right now
Both the Cork Charity Cup Final, between Dolphin and Con and Limerick Charity Cup Final between Garryowen and Thomond are this weekend which will be good games.
These are the first round games. Predictions in red
Cork Constitution v Sundays Well
Bruff v Midleton
Kanturk v Thomond
UL Bohs v Richmond
Shannon v Dolphin - not sure
Nenagh v Garryowen
Old Crescent v Cashel - not sure
Highfield v Young Munster

FellasFellas

Who's the pick for the Dudley Cup this weekend? UCD or UCC? Thought UCC would have a good shot at it.

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Too hard to say right now
Both the Cork Charity Cup Final, between Dolphin and Con and Limerick Charity Cup Final between Garryowen and Thomond are this weekend which will be good games.
These are the first round games. Predictions in red
Cork Constitution v Sundays Well
Bruff v Midleton
Kanturk v Thomond
UL Bohs v Richmond
Shannon v Dolphin - not sure
Nenagh v Garryowen
Old Crescent v Cashel - not sure
Highfield v Young Munster

Bruff Ards next weekend, Midleton game cancelled

ArmchairQB

FellasFellas wrote: »

Who's the pick for the Dudley Cup this weekend? UCD or UCC? Thought UCC would have a good shot at it.

Would be suprised at anything other than a UCD win

Stainalert

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Would be suprised at anything other than a UCD win

Any result here?

ArmchairQB

Stainalert wrote: »

Any result here?

UCD won 42-7

The Lost Sheep

No AIL for next few weeks apart from Ards Bruff Saturday
Full round of Senior League action up north, Ballynahinch v Malone probably pick of the games on Saturday

In Leinster, Belvedere face Clontarf and Terenure host UCD in Senior League Cup semi finals and Tullamore travel to Greystones and Wanderers make the trip to Skerries in the League Shield Semi finals

The two Charity Cup finals due to have been played over the weekend were postponed. Next weekend the opening round of Munster Senior Cup takes place with 7 games to be played

Stainalert

Sounds like Belvo Clontarf game was a real cliff hanger - draw after extra time and Clontarf awarded game on basis they were the away side (4 tries each and 1 yellow card each)

Watched the Terenure UCD game. Terenure will be disappointed but UCD did incredibly well playing into a strong wind for all of the 2nd half to hold onto their half-time lead and win. UCD were missing a huge amount of players due to A game.

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny

Stainalert wrote: »

Sounds like Belvo Clontarf game was a real cliff hanger - draw after extra time and Clontarf awarded game on basis they were the away side (4 tries each and 1 yellow card each)

Watched the Terenure UCD game. Terenure will be disappointed but UCD did incredibly well playing into a strong wind for all of the 2nd half to hold onto their half-time lead and win. UCD were missing a huge amount of players due to A game.

Would it not have come down to 1st try scorer being declared the winner?

The Lost Sheep

Stainalert wrote: »

Sounds like Belvo Clontarf game was a real cliff hanger - draw after extra time and Clontarf awarded game on basis they were the away side (4 tries each and 1 yellow card each)

Watched the Terenure UCD game. Terenure will be disappointed but UCD did incredibly well playing into a strong wind for all of the 2nd half to hold onto their half-time lead and win. UCD were missing a huge amount of players due to A game.

Interesting results. Strange that side with first try didn't go through or were Clontarf the first try scorers

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny wrote: »

Would it not have come down to 1st try scorer being declared the winner?

Would depend on rules of competition.

Stainalert

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Interesting results. Strange that side with first try didn't go through or were Clontarf the first try scorers

Would depend on rules of competition.

Clontarf did score the first try so no complaints really whatever metric you use although I am surprised this early in the season it could not have gone to a replay

The Lost Sheep

Stainalert wrote: »

Clontarf did score the first try so no complaints really whatever metric you use although I am surprised this early in the season it could not have gone to a replay

Clubs not want a replay etc

Playing competition as league format is fine but surely a whole province cup tournament should be played for senior cup and competition played in entirety at end of season would be best.

Results of Munster Senior Cup opening round played yesterday. Shame this competition has nothing of the prestige etc it had in past
Cork Con 34 Sunday's Well 8
Highfield 8 Young Munster 33
Kanturk 24 Thomond 27
Nenagh Ormond 18 Garryowen 20
Old Crescent 3 Cashel 22
Shannon 12 Dolphin 13
UL Bohs 28 Richmond 19

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Clubs not want a replay etc

Playing competition as league format is fine but surely a whole province cup tournament should be played for senior cup and competition played in entirety at end of season would be best.

Results of Munster Senior Cup opening round played yesterday. Shame this competition has nothing of the prestige etc it had in past
Cork Con 34 Sunday's Well 8
Highfield 8 Young Munster 33
Kanturk 24 Thomond 27
Nenagh Ormond 18 Garryowen 20
Old Crescent 3 Cashel 22
Shannon 12 Dolphin 13
UL Bohs 28 Richmond 19

Bruff had a BP win away to Ards as well yesterday

SA09

UBL back in action this weekend! Some great matches lined up! Any predictions?

The Lost Sheep

SA09 wrote: »

UBL back in action this weekend! Some great matches lined up! Any predictions?

Any thoughts yourself?
Div1A
Saturday
Ballynahinch v St Marys
Cork Con v Young Munster
Lansdowne v UCD
Old Belvedere v Dolphin
Terenure College v Clontarf

1B
Friday 7.30
Buccaneers v Corinthians
Saturday
Galwegians v Ballymena
Garryowen v Trinity
Malone v UL Bohs
Shannon v Belfast Harlequins

2A
Banbridge v Blackrock College
Bective Rangers v NUIM Barnhall
Dungannon v Seapoint
Naas v Skerries
Nenagh v UCC
Queens University v Cashel
Rainey OB v Old Wesley
Thomond v City of Derry

2B
Ards v Navan
Armagh v Greystones
De La Salle Palmerston v Bruff
Highfield v Boyne
Midleton v Old Crescent
Sundays Well v Sligo
Tullamore v Richmond
Wanderers v Kanturk

turtleshead

would agree with all of those predictions TLS, Terenure v Clontarf should be a cracker if their recent cup game is anything to go by!

Quint2010

turtleshead wrote: »

would agree with all of those predictions TLS, Terenure v Clontarf should be a cracker if their recent cup game is anything to go by!

Terenure beat Contarf 14-9.

The Lost Sheep

Terenure stretch unbeaten run again. 7 points clear at top. It'll take a very good team to stop this side
Good result for Dolphin considering there horrible start

Huge win in 1B for Trinity. Garryowen will be disappointed to lose that. Shannon bottom but its so close with 3 points between Malone in 4th and Shannon in last

Wesley storming ahead in 2A with City Of Derry struggling at the bottom.

Ards and Richmond look on basis of season so far two most likely to be relegated back to junior. Both winless having conceded a lot In 4 rounds and with 2 to go down automatic for junior its not looking good

Results
Division 1A:
Ballynahinch 33 St. Mary's College 13
Cork Constitution 6 Young Munster 6
Lansdowne 10 UCD 19
Old Belvedere 22 Dolphin 22
Terenure College 14 Clontarf 9

Division 1B:
Buccaneers 10 Corinthians 14
Galwegians 22 Ballymena 23
Garryowen 8 Dublin University 14
Malone 23 UL Bohemians 10
Shannon 21 Belfast Harlequins 26

Division 2A:
Banbridge 3 Blackrock College 3
Bective Rangers 3 NUIM Barnhall 20
Dungannon 35 Seapoint 6
Naas 0 Skerries 41
Nenagh Ormond 13 UCC 13
Queen's University 23 Cashel 12
Rainey Old Boys 7 Old Wesley 24
Thomond 33 City of Derry 6

Division 2B:
Ards 3 Navan 11
Armagh 20 Greystones 7
De La Salle Palmerston 3 Bruff 10
Highfield 50 Boyne 3
Midleton 24 Old Crescent 0
Sunday's Well 3 Sligo 8
Tullamore 33 Richmond 6
Wanderers 25 Kanturk 20

stellenbosch

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Terenure stretch unbeaten run again. 7 points clear at top. It'll take a very good team to stop this side
Good result for Dolphin considering there horrible start

Huge win in 1B for Trinity. Garryowen will be disappointed to lose that. Shannon bottom but its so close with 3 points between Malone in 4th and Shannon in last

Wesley storming ahead in 2A with City Of Derry struggling at the bottom.

Ards and Richmond look on basis of season so far two most likely to be relegated back to junior. Both winless having conceded a lot In 4 rounds and with 2 to go down automatic for junior its not looking good

Results
Division 1A:
Ballynahinch 33 St. Mary's College 13
Cork Constitution 6 Young Munster 6
Lansdowne 10 UCD 19
Old Belvedere 22 Dolphin 22
Terenure College 14 Clontarf 9

Division 1B:
Buccaneers 10 Corinthians 14
Galwegians 22 Ballymena 23
Garryowen 8 Dublin University 14
Malone 23 UL Bohemians 10
Shannon 21 Belfast Harlequins 26

Division 2A:
Banbridge 3 Blackrock College 3
Bective Rangers 3 NUIM Barnhall 20
Dungannon 35 Seapoint 6
Naas 0 Skerries 41
Nenagh Ormond 13 UCC 13
Queen's University 23 Cashel 12
Rainey Old Boys 7 Old Wesley 24
Thomond 33 City of Derry 6

Division 2B:
Ards 3 Navan 11
Armagh 20 Greystones 7
De La Salle Palmerston 3 Bruff 10
Highfield 50 Boyne 3
Midleton 24 Old Crescent 0
Sunday's Well 3 Sligo 8
Tullamore 33 Richmond 6
Wanderers 25 Kanturk 20

Was at the Trinity/Garryowen game-Trinity deserved winners and their scrum was excellent driving GO off many of their own scrums. Both hookers sent off near the end for fighting. Sebastian Fromm at 12 was very good for Trinity as was Du Toit at 7.

madlad88

Jaysus Naas 0-41 Skerries ?? thought skerries were favourites for relegation ...

Old Wesley look on course for promotion anyways

thebaz

Quint2010 wrote: »

Terenure beat Contarf 14-9.

see terenure have recruited John Cooney , and he's doing well; not sure why leinster let him go , thought he looked a great prospect , whenever he got a chance.

Hagz

thebaz wrote: »

see terenure have recruited John Cooney , and he's doing well; not sure why leinster let him go , thought he looked a great prospect , whenever he got a chance.

He's still under contract with Leinster, he's just out on loan to Connacht. His contract runs up at the end of this season.

The Lost Sheep

stellenbosch wrote: »

Was at the Trinity/Garryowen game-Trinity deserved winners and their scrum was excellent driving GO off many of their own scrums. Both hookers sent off near the end for fighting. Sebastian Fromm at 12 was very good for Trinity as was Du Toit at 7.

Du Toit is a machine or as the bio about him in the Trinity season programme says "it has been said he can recover a ball from a swiss offshore bank account" :pac:

madlad88 wrote: »

Jaysus Naas 0-41 Skerries ?? thought skerries were favourites for relegation ...

Old Wesley look on course for promotion anyways

They're a good side but they've struggled for most of the season against all manners of sides. Naas aren't great and
Wesley have great strength in depth. Mix of usual big group of Wesley college old boys and a significant number of players from clubs around country who had to move to Dublin for work like former Nenagh pair Stephen Harvey and Darren Horan and Ger Finucane ex of Thomond, Cian O Shea and Dave and Mark Rowley who all had played with Garryowen. New pitches in Donnybrook are really suiting their good brand of rugby. They'll be hard to stop

thebaz

thebaz wrote: »

see terenure have recruited John Cooney , and he's doing well; not sure why leinster let him go , thought he looked a great prospect , whenever he got a chance.

He's only played 20 mins so far for them (other than pre season). The O'Neill brothers have been playing 9.

thebaz

Deleted User wrote: »

He's only played 20 mins so far for them (other than pre season). The O'Neill brothers have been playing 9.

whatever - just read a report where he played well - nice sub to come on - he's hardly featured for Connacht - just thought he always did well when given a chance with leinster - and especially now with worries over the 9 jersey

thebaz

thebaz wrote: »

whatever - just read a report where he played well - nice sub to come on - he's hardly featured for Connacht - just thought he always did well when given a chance with leinster - and especially now with worries over the 9 jersey

To be fair, he's only returning from injury. He ought to feature more for any/all of Terenure, Eagles or Connacht in coming weeks/months.

His 20minute cameo at the weekend was Cooney's first competitive game for Terenure though.

Hagz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-2nwHeArKo

vienne86

Deleted User wrote: »

To be fair, he's only returning from injury. He ought to feature more for any/all of Terenure, Eagles or Connacht in coming weeks/months.

His 20minute cameo at the weekend was Cooney's first competitive game for Terenure though.

This could be good for Terenure and good for Leinster too. I think Leinster could soon have a crisis at 9 so would love to see Cooney come good.

Stainalert

vienne86 wrote: »

This could be good for Terenure and good for Leinster too. I think Leinster could soon have a crisis at 9 so would love to see Cooney come good.

Very good player just needs someone at pro level to give him a decent run - would rate him ahead of Porter at Connacht

The Lost Sheep

Thoughts on this weekends games?
Plenty of big derby games etc on tomorrow and Saturday?
Anyone going to a game? Shame games are clashing with international weekend but hard to find room in season to suit all.

Stainalert

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Thoughts on this weekends games?
Plenty of big derby games etc on tomorrow and Saturday?
Anyone going to a game? Shame games are clashing with international weekend but hard to find room in season to suit all.

UCD Terenure game should be an excellent game - both teams like to throw the ball around. Hopefully the weather won't spoil that.

The Lost Sheep

Stainalert wrote: »

UCD Terenure game should be an excellent game - both teams like to throw the ball around. Hopefully the weather won't spoil that.

It should be a good one. Terenure should get the win. Don't UCD have an all weather that game could be played on? So weather shouldn't have too much of an impact

Loads of derby games but Tipperary derby between Cashel and Nenagh Ormond probably tie of the weekend considering there's plenty of Dublin, Limerick, Cork derbies. Not too many of other counties...

S12b

Wegians v Corinthians under lights tonight should be a tasty match!!

The Lost Sheep

S12b wrote: »

Wegians v Corinthians under lights tonight should be a tasty match!!

Hopefully all the s**** weather weve been having in Galway today wont affect game too much. Should be good game
Galwegians that bit stronger on basis of performances in league so far but form goes out window in derby games like tonights. Wegians should have enough to win by a score

Hagz

Is the IRFU website still streaming one game a week?

The Lost Sheep

Hagz wrote: »

Is the IRFU website still streaming one game a week?

Theyve highlights up of a game or two but not streaming games afaik

Quint2010

UCD leading Terenure 12-8. Into the second half.

The Lost Sheep

Bruff beginning to pull away from Richmond, 22-7
UCD leading Terenure 17-11
Con winning 6-3 v Dolphin
Skerries 21-3 up v Bective at halftime
Garryowen leading Bohs 11-6

Quint2010

23-17 to Terenure!

Quint2010

26-17 Terenure final score. The winning run goes on!

fox_1973

Quint2010 wrote: »

26-17 Terenure final score. The winning run goes on!

Great comeback, enjoyable game, great atmosphere

Quint2010

fox_1973 wrote: »

Great comeback, enjoyable game, great atmosphere

How did Dardis play for UCD?

The Lost Sheep

Quint2010 wrote: »

26-17 Terenure final score. The winning run goes on!

It'll have to end soon but who's going to do it?

Kind of surprised at some of tonights results. Horrible night but expected more from these two games
Con and Dolphin 6-6 draw
Garryowen beat Bohs 11-6

Hagz

What's with UCD playing such young sides? Where's Jordan Coghlan, Josh Van der Flier, Andrew Boyle, Barry Daly, Ed Byrne, Dan Leavy? Are they injured?

FellasFellas

Hagz wrote: »

What's with UCD playing such young sides? Where's Jordan Coghlan, Josh Van der Flier, Andrew Boyle, Barry Daly, Ed Byrne, Dan Leavy? Are they injured?

Ed Byrne did his cruciate against Edinburgh, Barry Daly did his knee against YM, JVDF, Leavy and Coghlan I guess weren't released by Leinster; and Boyle has moved to New Zealand

Bridge93

FellasFellas wrote: »

Ed Byrne did his cruciate against Edinburgh, Barry Daly did his knee against YM, JVDF, Leavy and Coghlan I guess weren't released by Leinster; and Boyle has moved to New Zealand

Did Boyle not play last week against Lansdowne?

The Lost Sheep

Hagz wrote: »

What's with UCD playing such young sides? Where's Jordan Coghlan, Josh Van der Flier, Andrew Boyle, Barry Daly, Ed Byrne, Dan Leavy? Are they injured?

They are a University club. They go through cycles where they will field very very young teams and university teams are always the youngest you'll see playing adult ball.
Trinity lost out on a lot of 4th/5th years who graduated last year and are fairly young by student standards this season as well.
I assume some of those you name are injured but presime some held back by Leinster perhaps?

ArmchairQB

Bridge93 wrote: »

Did Boyle not play last week against Lansdowne?

That was his last game for UCD

ArmchairQB

Hagz wrote: »

What's with UCD playing such young sides? Where's Jordan Coghlan, Josh Van der Flier, Andrew Boyle, Barry Daly, Ed Byrne, Dan Leavy? Are they injured?

Still able to field close to 10 academy players, strong side