Have you done ecstasy or MDMA.

gimmick

JamboMac wrote: »

That's the definition and compulsive habit is easily as such that every Friday before you go out you do these and then your jaw is swinging for the rest of the night and make probably a lot of people who don't know you uncomfortable, that feel your unpredictable in your head you might think everybody loves but there more afraid to say anything.

That is some sentence!

JamboMac

TimeToShine wrote: »

This is ludicrous.

Casual drug users keep it to the weekend, go to college or have a 9-5 job and pay their taxes just like everyone else. I guarantee you there are people you know and respect who have taken/still do take drugs - would you immediately label them as junkies if you found out?

MDMA is not addictive - habitual perhaps but certainly not addictive like heroin. Some of the delusion here is baffling - it's fine if you don't want to try it yourself but to label users as junkies is embarrassing.

Many heroin addicts have jobs too and come from the rich to the poor and none of them see themselves as a junkie either.

I'm not trying to actually offend and I'm sure there's more like me with similar opinion.

Maximus Alexander

JamboMac wrote: »

Many heroin addicts have jobs too and come from the rich to the poor and none of them see themselves as a junkie either.

I'm not trying to actually offend and I'm sure there's more like me with similar opinion.

I think you guys need to come up with a catchy word for 'recreational drug user', because the one you're using now doesn't mean that and makes you look antagonistic.

TheGlass

Take it every now and then, 3-4 times a year. Good fun, and I think its had a positive impact on my life, made me a lot more open in general, and able talk to friends about stuff we'd probably have kept bottled up before.

FTA69 wrote: »

Some of it is. There's plenty of that stuff cut up as well. The "one pill could kill you stone dead" is one of the biggest moral panics we had in the past few decades anyway. You're more likely to die after a few pints than you are after taking ecstasy.

There are dodgy pills out there, especially now that ecstasy seems to be making a comeback, it pays to be vigilant.

I Heart Internet wrote: »

So the answer is, "we can't know." That's fair enough.



As opposed to all the dirty ones out there? But there's only a "miniscule" risk of that right? What with all the quality assurance checks nowadays.

In Ireland maybe not, in more enlightened countries they have drug testing centers where you can bring in your pill and test it. It at least ensures the user knows what they're taking is safe.

JamboMac wrote: »

Here's a quick question but before that to respond to the initial one never have and to be quite honest people that do these drugs to me are as much junkies as heroin addicts.

So in your mind what defines a junkie?

Ridiculous. That's like saying someone who goes out once a month to eat in a restaurant and has a glass of wine with their meal is a full blown alcoholic

I Heart Internet

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I think you guys need to come up with a catchy word for 'recreational drug user', because the one you're using now doesn't mean that and makes you look antagonistic.

How about "criminal"?

FTA69

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Middle class drug users hate when people call them junkies.

To me, anyone who uses illegal drugs is a junkie.

So anyone who smokes a joint is akin to an intravenous addict with a fixation for heroin?

I'm sorry but you're talking out your f*cking hoop.

Maximus Alexander

I Heart Internet wrote: »

How about "criminal"?

That only works for a subset of recreational drug users, but it's more accurate. Getting warmer.

I Heart Internet

FTA69 wrote: »

So anyone who smokes a joint is akin to an intravenous addict with a fixation for heroin?

I'm sorry but you're talking out your f*cking hoop.

Akin in the sense that they are both junkies...users of "junk".

desultory

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Akin in the sense that they are both junkies...users of "junk".

As are people who eat junk food then? Everyone you see going into mcdonalds you refer to as a junkie yeah?

I Heart Internet

desultory wrote: »

As are people who eat junk food then? Everyone you see going into mcdonalds you refer to as a junkie yeah?

They're foodies

Maximus Alexander

desultory wrote: »

As are people who eat junk food then? Everyone you see going into mcdonalds you refer to as a junkie yeah?

I Heart Internet wrote: »

They're foodies

No, they're fatties. :pac:

Lenin Skynard

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Perhaps, but the definition of words can change over time.

Illegal drug users are junkies in my book.

What else is in that book of yours? Cows are the same thing as chickens?

murphym7

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Akin in the sense that they are both junkies...users of "junk".

Really bored of this now, why don't the "all drugs are bad" brigade head over to Sunshine, Lollipops & Rainbows: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1292

Leave this discussion to the grow ups.

gimmick

I Heart Internet wrote: »

They're foodies

Nope. A "foodie" is someone who eats fine foods, not deep fried deliciousness from takeaways and fast foods.

Lia_lia

Jordonvito wrote: »

... seems to be a lot more of it going on.. the past year or so

I hear that every year!

MRnotlob606

chewing the jaw of me self

I Heart Internet

murphym7 wrote: »

Leave this discussion to the grow ups.

The grown ups who ingest and consume random concoctions of potentially dangerous chemicals? Those lads?

The Backwards Man

Maybe it's coincidental, but for all the alcoholics, potheads, cokesnorters and gluesniffers I've had dealings with in my time, there was none so woefully awful at getting up in the morning and doing an honest day's work as those on the yokes.

No time for it or users of it. At all.

murphym7

I Heart Internet wrote: »

The grown ups who ingest and consume random concoctions of potentially dangerous chemicals? Those lads?

Why do you care what other people do?

ScumLord

I Heart Internet wrote: »

How do you know the powder that someone gives/sells you is MDMA?

Do you actually want someone to tell you how to identify MDMA, or will you start accusing me of promoting drug consumption? Because if I told you how to identify MDMA it would only be telling all the children reading this thread how to buy better drugs.

I Heart Internet wrote: »

To me, anyone who uses illegal drugs is a junkie.

Just like anyone who's had a drink is an alco. Anyone who's gone for a swim is a swimmer.

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Illegal drug users are junkies in my book.

Junkie is a derogatory term, it's meant to incite hatred and pigeon hole subversive people into the stereotypical "bad guys" category. It doesn't surprise me at all you'd use such derogatory terms, it helps degrade the people you want to despise so that you can blissfully ignore the facts of the argument.

JamboMac

TheGlass wrote: »

Ridiculous. That's like saying someone who goes out once a month to eat in a restaurant and has a glass of wine with their meal is a full blown alcoholic

Have you ever one of these space cadets wondering around your front trying to get in not knowing where they are and the majority of the people that do these drugs do them habitually, they think we can't tell there on something and they think there eloquent and intelligent.

Next time film yourself on these and see how messy you are.

That alcoholic comment is ludacris just trying to convince yourself is hilarious, I can accept your opinion that they ain't junkies but most would put them in the same category, pain killers aren't addictive many people seem to get addicted to them don't they.

Lia_lia

I would call someone who smokes fags everyday a "junkie" over someone that takes MDMA a few times a year.

Not really, but that's the way I see it!

gimmick

I Heart Internet wrote: »

The grown ups who ingest and consume random concoctions of potentially dangerous chemicals? Those lads?

Hey, we're just trying to have a good time, narc. Why do you want to destroy us?'

HATE CRIIIIME

renegademaster

it's a fact that since the mid to late 80's when mdma was rediscovered as a drug to aid with the treatment of psychological issues there's been millions of tablets containing the substance and many tonnes of the drug in it's pure crystal form taken and although the majority of it's been produced in backstreet labs there's been very few deaths directly and solely attributed to mdma use.

viva le mitsubishi

irishdude11

I think Ecstasy is the best feeling in the world, at least as good as sex...but I don't think I will be doing it again as I nearly ended topping myself due to the depression it induced.

deadybai

Never ever would I touch them. Seen too many peoples life's destroyed by them.

I Heart Internet

murphym7 wrote: »

Why do you care what other people do?

I care about other people. Don't want to see drug users get hurt or ruin their lives.

Merkin

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

chewing the jaw of me self

I'm chewing the forehead of myself :pac:

brummytom

Where's the option for 'Tried it and have absolutely fúck all memory of it, so can't really judge whether I liked it or not'?

Davarus Walrus

Absolutely not. I've been at a few festivals where you spot pillheads going around trying to chew the jaw off themselves. Doesn't look appealing to me. People should have more respect for their bodies.

RollieFingers

I Heart Internet wrote: »

I care about other people. Don't want to see drug users get hurt or ruin their lives.

I thought they were known as junkies?

Mr. CooL ICE

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Illegal drug users are junkies in my book.

How about somebody who has a bottle of poitin or moonshine that they keep for special occasions? Sure, it might be alcohol, but because it's not legal, would you classify them as junkies?

MaroonAndGreen

Only did it recently and im an inexperienced user but I recommend it to be honest, and as a poster said earlier: I actually feel sorry for those that refuse to do it. Its a pity its such a taboo subject among some because its an amazing experience that im very happy I havent missed out on.

Its a much nicer buzz than being drunk, and id imagine its not doing much worse damage to your body than alcohol does either.

I Heart Internet

ScumLord wrote: »

Do you actually want someone to tell you how to identify MDMA, or will you start accusing me of promoting drug consumption? Because if I told you how to identify MDMA it would only be telling all the children reading this thread how to buy better drugs.

I suspect you'd tell me how to identify what appears to be MDMA. I would not base my ingestion of white powder decisions on your pharmacological x-ray specs.

I Heart Internet

RollieFingers wrote: »

I thought they were known as junkies?

Same thing.

Temptamperu

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

Absolutely not. I've been at a few festivals where you spot pillheads going around trying to chew the jaw off themselves. Doesn't look appealing to me. People should have more respect for their bodies.

Exactly! Respect your bodies... Now wheres the pints?

I Heart Internet

LordChessington wrote: »

How about somebody who has a bottle of poitin or moonshine that they keep for special occasions? Sure, it might be alcohol, but because it's not legal, would you classify them as junkies?

Probably.

RollieFingers

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Same thing.

Ok so drug users and junkies are the "same thing". So using your logic anybody who has a drink is an alcoholic yeh?

endacl

No poll option for me. Just a plain ol' passive 'no'. No judgement implied. Never did the drug. Wasn't in the scene. All growed up now so it's unlikely I ever will. It passed me by.

I Heart Internet

RollieFingers wrote: »

Ok so drug users and junkies are the "same thing". So using your logic anybody who has a drink is an alcoholic yeh?

Alcoholic is quite a technical term, so not quite.

I just use the term junkie to refer to all illegal drug users. But I'm not a doctor.

WellThen?

endacl wrote: »

No poll option for me. Just a plain ol' passive 'no'. No judgement implied. Never did the drug. Wasn't in the scene. All growed up now so it's unlikely I ever will. It passed me by.

And that is absolutely fair enough, if it never came into your possession, and it would be a bit off the rails being older to try it now makes sense. It's not the be all and end all, just another way to enjoy yourself.

I much prefer your stance to the rest of the posters who don't really have any knowledge on the subject shouting " junkie". Just because something is illegal does not make it morally WRONG. Laws change, sure alcohol was illegal at some stage.

RollieFingers

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Alcoholic is quite a technical term, so not quite.

I just use the term junkie to refer to all illegal drug users. But I'm not a doctor.

You're not a great troll either! Your argument is flawed and baseless I'm afraid!

Chip Whitley

Vito Corleone wrote: »

Tried ecstasy twice, didn't think it was great. Would love to try pure MDMA. It's funny, but out of all the drugs I've tried - alcohol, for me, has been the best. Am planning to experience shrooms next October.

Why October?

I Heart Internet

RollieFingers wrote: »

You're not a great troll either! Your argument is flawed and baseless I'm afraid!

What argument? I was just asked what I thought a "junkie" was. I gave my opinion (knowing it wouldn't be popular with illegal drug fans). Others will have differing views.

Mr. CooL ICE

Your views are not based on morals, but are rather based on the laws of the country you happen to live in. That, in my opinion means your arguments are flawed.

RollieFingers

I Heart Internet wrote: »

What argument? I was just asked what I thought a "junkie" was. I gave my opinion (knowing it wouldn't be popular with illegal drug fans). Others will have differing views.

Your argument that all users of illegal drugs are junkies. It's just not true!
Obama confessed to smoking a few joints back in his college days, is he a junkie?

MonkeyTennis

I Heart Internet wrote: »

What argument? I was just asked what I thought a "junkie" was. I gave my opinion (knowing it wouldn't be popular with illegal drug fans). Others will have differing views.

Someone who uses illegal drugs is not a junkie. A junkie is an addict be it to illegal or legal drugs.

Da Shins Kelly

Yeah, I've done it. I definitely don't do it as often as I used to, but occasionally I might dabble again once every few months. Went through a period of a year or so where I was mad for it. The skag just kills me now though. Most of the time I just feel like it isn't worth it. Would rather just stick to the drink instead more often than not nowadays.

I Heart Internet

RollieFingers wrote: »

Your argument that all users of illegal drugs are junkies. It's just not true!
Obama confessed to smoking a few joints back in his college days, is he a junkie?

He's probably a recovering junkie. A more pressing concern for him would be his (reported) tobacco addiction.

RollieFingers

I Heart Internet wrote: »

He's probably a recovering junkie. A more pressing concern for him would be his (reported) tobacco addiction.