Garda Recruitment - Stage 5

misshopeful1

Eireannach01 wrote: »

Thanks! Lets hope so. After getting so far it would be a shame not to be in the first intake!

My sentiments exactly! :-)

eroc79

Chem Lord wrote: »

So pcts could be starting again soon aswell!

Was told to only accept the medical date next week if I would be available to do the pct the following week.

eroc79

Chem Lord wrote: »

So pcts could be starting again soon aswell!

Was told to only accept the medical date next week if I would be available to do the pct the following week.

babybell

misshopeful1 wrote: »

If your BMI is over 30, you fail. They're zero tolerance on that one.

I know of someone who failed this and was told that's the end of the road but after using some influence from within AGS was then passed. Bit of a joke that's going on

eroc79

Chem Lord wrote: »

So pcts could be starting again soon aswell!

Was told to only accept the medical date next week if I would be available to do the pct the following week.

KERSPLAT!

babybell wrote: »

I know of someone who failed this and was told that's the end of the road but after using some influence from within AGS was then passed. Bit of a joke that's going on

MOD

We'll nip that right there. It's hear say and it won't be discussed here. It will only lead to trouble. No further discussion on it thanks.

If there's a discussion to be had regarding nepotism, back handers, etc someone can mail me to discuss and I'll talk to the other mods about it and what forum it would be suited to

-KERSPLAT!

mrDerek

What sort of problem would make you fail the medical?

ShodenMcClane

mrDerek wrote: »

What sort of problem would make you fail the medical?

Well they have a dispensation under the disabilities act so anything really that they deem that would significantly hinder your performance. The main ones, however are listed in the familiarisation booklet.

Rothmans

The fact that they are trying to get people through medicals and physicals so quickly might perhaps suggest that they are still making up the first class.

octigen

Rothmans wrote: »

The fact that they are trying to get people through medicals and physicals so quickly might perhaps suggest that they are still making up the first class.

I see your point but how many PCT's were held? 4 at least. Hardly resulted in 60 fails.

Rushden

Did my medical last month and got deferred, sent them in the info they wanted and still haven't heard if they've passed me or not. If they're running more pcts in a couple of weeks I'll be annoyed if they haven't made a decision before then so I can do the pct during the next run of them if I pass

galalala123

WilcoOut wrote: »

The info trickling down is not good

What info???

Eireannach01

Supposing everything works out ok and we are given the green light to enter Templemore, does anyone know if you have to pay for your meals out of the €184 weekly grant? I hope not cos I have a family to support and I will have to send every penny home to cover bills and mortgage etc. I dont know how I am going to afford childcare costs too but hopefully it will all work out ok in the end.

20times

Eireannach01 wrote: »

Supposing everything works out ok and we are given the green light to enter Templemore, does anyone know if you have to pay for your meals out of the €184 weekly grant? I hope not cos I have a family to support and I will have to send every penny home to cover bills and mortgage etc. I dont know how I am going to afford childcare costs too but hopefully it will all work out ok in the end.

Your accommodation and food is provided and is not deducted from the 184e.

Rothmans

octigen wrote: »

I see your point but how many PCT's were held? 4 at least. Hardly resulted in 60 fails.

Aye, I thought that too. But that's based on an implicit assumption that everyone passed the medical. Obviously we can't know the fail rate for the medical. However, anecdotal evidence would suggest the rate of deferrals wasn't insignificant! On top of that there are the apparent 41 who failed physical. That would leave hrm struggling to make up the 105. And that's before we bring vetting into the picture!

King Ludvig

The Government has announced that new gardaí due to be recruited this month will not now begin training until early September.

The 100 applicants are the first new members to join the force in more than five years.

Minister for Justice Frances Fitzgerald said sanction had been received from Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform Brendan Howlin but did not say why the recruitment had been delayed.

Senior gardaí have expressed concern that the strength of the force has now dropped below 13,000 and the new recruits will not be sufficient to bring the numbers above that figure.

It takes two years before a recruit becomes a fully-trained garda.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0717/631398-garda-training/

King Ludvig

33 from the Irish stream passed stage 4. The ministers comments Tuesday 15 July 2014:

I have been informed by the Garda Commissioner that recruitment to An Garda Síochána is in accordance with the Public Service Management (Recruitment Appointment) Act 2004.
The Public Appointments Service was established under that Act as a central recruitment agency and the Public Appointments Service undertook the initial stages of the recruitment process for Garda Trainee.

The first intake of approximately one hundred Garda Trainees to the Garda College is scheduled to take place in the coming weeks.
A total of 33 applicants in the Irish Stream were successful at the Interview Stage and have commenced the Stage 5 process i.e. Vetting, Medical, Physical Competence Test. It is expected that a number of applicants from this stream will be included in the first intake into the Garda College.

http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2014-07-15a.1518&s=garda+recruitment#g1520.r


"The coming weeks" :rolleyes:

WilcoOut

I wonder when early september will turn into late sept then early oct etc etc blah blah

D Trent

20times wrote: »

Your accommodation and food and haircuts is provided and is not deducted from the 184e.

Twould be great wouldn't it

Rothmans

Irish Times reporting on it too.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda-recruitment-later-and-smaller-than-anticipated-1.1869502

carzony

Rothmans wrote: »

Irish Times reporting on it too.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda-recruitment-later-and-smaller-than-anticipated-1.1869502

news gets worse all the time. I'd say they will just keep it at 13,000 and add new members everytime it drops below that.:o:(

misshopeful1

I really hope we get results tomorrow. It's getting excruciating at this stage :-/

teaisgreat

With more medicals happening next week and physicals the week after they could be waiting til after then to make offers? It would still be a good month before the start date if it's sept.

ShodenMcClane

carzony wrote: »

news gets worse all the time. I'd say they will just keep it at 13,000 and add new members everytime it drops below that.:o:(

That was always the plan, from the start that's exactly what's been said. The problem is that now by the time the 105 pass out from templemore the numbers will be down to 12,500.

Eireannach01

teaisgreat wrote: »

With more medicals happening next week and physicals the week after they could be waiting til after then to make offers? It would still be a good month before the start date if it's sept.

Hopefully that will not be the case, but you have certainly made a fair point. That would be cruel though. This uncertainty is really bothering me!

If it were the case that offers would not be offered for another few weeks, if HRM could even send us an e-mail to keep us informed about what was going on then I'm sure it would ease the pain slightly.

Now that we are on the topic of medicals, did anyone else have their testicles examined? I was not expecting that. I mean if you only have one testicle, are you not competent to carry out Garda duties? Well I suppose you have to have balls to be a garda!

Santa Cruz

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

As constructive as always Santa Cruz, keep up the good work

Thank you. A bit of realism goes a long way. A competition announced last October and not a Garda trained yet. Now put back until September.
How many times can the Government get away with making the announcement about increased Garda numbers, raising people hopes only to delay the matter again.

Blaireness

Eireannach01 wrote: »

Hopefully that will not be the case, but you have certainly made a fair point. That would be cruel though. This uncertainty is really bothering me!

If it were the case that offers would not be offered for another few weeks, if HRM could even send us an e-mail to keep us informed about what was going on then I'm sure it would ease the pain slightly.

Now that we are on the topic of medicals, did anyone else have their testicles examined? I was not expecting that. I mean if you only have one testicle, are you not competent to carry out Garda duties? Well I suppose you have to have balls to be a garda!

Full medical, men had testicles examined and women had their breasts examined as far as I know.

carzony

Santa Cruz wrote: »

Thank you. A bit of realism goes a long way. A competition announced last October and not a Garda trained yet. Now put back until September.
How many times can the Government get away with making the announcement about increased Garda numbers, raising people hopes only to delay the matter again.

Santa is correct though. 8 months has passed and no real developments. Its a joke... what's gonna be their next excuse ?

ann.lewis

Eireannach01 wrote: »

If it were the case that offers would not be offered for another few weeks, if HRM could even send us an e-mail to keep us informed about what was going on then I'm sure it would ease the pain slightly.

People were on a panel for 4 years and HRM never once made any correspondence with them bar September 2013 to say "good luck to yee all"...
You only have to wait 4 weeks more (if even)... hang in there and keep the faith. You'll be going soon.

Keep fit in the mean time and maybe practice your mile and a half in 15mins
That will keep ye ticking over.

KERSPLAT!

carzony wrote: »

Santa is correct though. 8 months has passed and no real developments. Its a joke... what's gonna be their next excuse ?

No real developments? They've whittled the numbers down to a manageable amount and gone through numerous online assessments, supervised assessments, medicals, PCTs, interviews, etc. I understand the frustration but to say there have been no real developments is clearly wrong.

carzony

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

No real developments? They've whittled the numbers down to a manageable amount and gone through numerous online assessments, supervised assessments, medicals, PCTs, interviews, etc. I understand the frustration but to say there have been no real developments is clearly wrong.

it could have been done a lot faster though.. 8 months seems like a massive amount of time and their only at the vetting stage..

Carroller

carzony wrote: »

it could have been done a lot faster though.. 8 months seems like a massive amount of time and their only at the vetting stage..

They always had the start date penned for end of July. They are 4 weeks off that so not too bad. It's not as if they had planned to have us in by January 2014.

Scouser

To think this could have been the last day in work for so many of us, with templemore looming for us on Monday morn

Depressing!

almeraguy

Scouser wrote: »

To think this could have been the last day in work for so many of us, with templemore looming for us on Monday morn

Depressing!

It sucks alright that the start date has moved but look on the positive side, this time next year some of us will be on the beat as members of An Garda Síochána; now that's a great feeling! Roll on September!!

Scouser

almeraguy wrote: »

It sucks alright that the start date has moved but look on the positive side, this time next year some of us will be on the beat as members of An Garda Síochána; now that's a great feeling! Roll on September!!

I was on the beat as a member of An Garda Siochana yesterday evening :P :cool:

lcrossan884

Are you allowed to carry water during bleep test at the pct?

Ron DMC

lcrossan884 wrote: »

Are you allowed to carry water during bleep test at the pct?

There's really need. The whole thing start to finish is only just over ten minutes.

Scouser

lcrossan884 wrote: »

Are you allowed to carry water during bleep test at the pct?

no way

if you spilled any it would be a serious hazard on the wooden floor - to you and others

a guy beside me had a cold and was hocking phlegm up and spitting it into his tshirt so as to not ruin the floor ha!

mickaleen

What's the story with the press ups lads for the PCT? Are they really strict on form?? I know your whole body has to be straight, but what I am more interested in is where I place my hands ( obviously on the floor but how far out etc ). Thanks.

lcrossan884

Cheers folks i was just wondering, ive been training with and without water, but thought i might as well ask to know for definite, ill be running without from now on LoL!!

almeraguy

mickaleen wrote: »

What's the story with the press ups lads for the PCT? Are they really strict on form?? I know your whole body has to be straight, but what I am more interested in is where I place my hands ( obviously on the floor but how far out etc ). Thanks.

Straight back and 90 degree bend at the elbow is what they are looking for.They are strict on form. There was no directions given for placing of your hands.
I had my hands slightly wider than shoulder width on the day and there were no problems.

Best of luck, when are you going for the test?

mickaleen

I have my medical next Tuesday morning and then physical sometime in the following week. I am doing them press ups like you, slightly wider then the shoulders and doing them fine. Just hoping that will suffice on the day.

almeraguy

mickaleen wrote: »

I have my medical next Tuesday morning and then physical sometime in the following week. I am doing them press ups like you, slightly wider then the shoulders and doing them fine. Just hoping that will suffice on the day.

Sounds like you won't have a problem with them. Enjoy the day, you will only have to do it once to get through

Eireannach01

mickaleen wrote: »

I have my medical next Tuesday morning and then physical sometime in the following week. I am doing them press ups like you, slightly wider then the shoulders and doing them fine. Just hoping that will suffice on the day.

If you dont mind me asking, where were you guys placed in the ranking order? Thanks

mickaleen

I placed not too far inside the top 200.

Dongaz

Any one get any more info from HRM?

octigen

Dongaz wrote: »

Any one get any more info from HRM?

Nope...

WilcoOut

Dongaz wrote: »

Any one get any more info from HRM?

Be a while lads. Iv made my peace with it

eroc79

mickaleen wrote: »

I have my medical next Tuesday morning and then physical sometime in the following week. I am doing them press ups like you, slightly wider then the shoulders and doing them fine. Just hoping that will suffice on the day.

Did you get an email confirming your medical for tuesday?

eroc79

mickaleen wrote: »

I have my medical next Tuesday morning and then physical sometime in the following week. I am doing them press ups like you, slightly wider then the shoulders and doing them fine. Just hoping that will suffice on the day.

Did you get an email confirming your medical for tuesday?