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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    Effect, really. Emotional abuse is emotional treatment which leads to psychological disorders. Kids who have been emotionally abused tend to have avoidant, borderline, or a combination of both personality disorders, where they have a high level of social paranoia and assume people don't like them even when there's no reason to. I know a few people who fit this bill and it's pretty heartbreaking - people who refuse invitations to parties even when everyone is saying "Ah come on, where have you been lately just come out!" and privately confide in their close friends that they feel invisible and unwanted, and assume they're only being invited out of politeness etc.

    Usually when you get talking to these people on a deeper level they'll tell you stories of severe childhood bullying and undermining by someone close to them. Not always of course, but I'm definitely noticing a pattern among people I know who suffer from the aforementioned social phobias.

    No, don't get me wrong, emotional abuse is a real thing.

    But I'm not sure effect is enough of an indicator. People react differently to different things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    bogwalrus wrote: »
    There are many laws that protect children. Some of these laws tell parents what they can not do to their child such as hitting etc.

    I just saw on sky news that they are looking at laws for emotional abuse parents can cause children and in a way forcing parents to love their children.

    I wonder 100 years down the road will there be so many laws and gudlines parents must follow when raising their child that it will be pretty much the state doing the raising.

    I personally think there is a right and wrong way to raise a child and maybe the above would not be so bad?


    More completely unworkable nonsense dreamed up by some think tank or other full of softy-headed numpties with a very poor grasp on reality where social workers are already struggling to cope with an overstretched, overworked, underfunded and underresourced system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,802 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Molly-coddling kids will do them no good in the long run in their development. There is no point pandering to their every need. Tough love has its place as well.
    When you go out into the working world & have to fend for yourself, no-one is their to mind you & hand-hold you through the process of daily living.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭PLL


    I can't stand people that don't discipline their children (NO I DON'T MEAN HIT) I mean tell them off when they are doing something wrong. It is how my dad raised me and I had the greatest respect for him and still do. He never raised a hand to me but by God If I did something wrong I knew about it and I knew what the consequences would be if I did it again.

    My daughter ran into the kitchen at my in-laws last night, 3 pots of the stove and MIL walking across with a boiled kettle, well I shouted at her telling her she is not allowed in there while granny is cooking, it is dangerous etc and she got upset, but was over it in 5 mins. Anytime she went near the kitchen after that the minute I said her name she walked straight out. My sister in law thinks I'm awful for upsetting a 2yr old. Well I can't wait to see her kids walk all over her as they grow up. Children need discipline. End of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/parents-lsquoabused-by-own-childrenrsquo-on-rise-270685.html

    Seems to be working well so far, knowing their rights an all seems parent abuse is on the up. Alot of these kids are seeing their parents as a resource. Seems the right of the child trumps the right of the parent, if the parents were being violent to the children they would be in jail. I’m all for children's rights but it’s gone way to far.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    GalwayGuy2 wrote: »
    No, don't get me wrong, emotional abuse is a real thing.

    But I'm not sure effect is enough of an indicator. People react differently to different things.

    Sure, but if you can paint a general picture among sufferers of such psychological inhibitions, you can form a general framework for what constitutes potentially damaging emotional abuse. The common theme among all of the ones I know personally (which is obviously a limited frame of reference) is undermining. Either being constantly told that something was wrong with them, or constantly told that they weren't good enough to achieve what they wanted to achieve. I know one girl who became full on anorexic because not only did one of her parents mock her weight, fuelling her insecurity, they also undermined her attempts to fix it when she finally started dieting etc (you'll never manage it, you'll be back to where you started in two weeks, etc etc etc). People need encouragement rather than a barrage of negativity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    Ireland is a sovereign nation. Britain is also. we are different


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 919 ✭✭✭wicklowstevo


    i really wouldnt worry about it op . in a hundred years time we will all be living in a post apocalyptic world where sky news will be relatively unimportant


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