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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭jameshayes


    never_mind wrote: »

    I am worried about the 18k. I feel like I am aerobically fine to do it but it's more my legs and feet get quite sore. But I am gaining weight although my diet is quiet good.. just from lack of exercise. I need to get down by a stone in a month for a wedding. Eugh.

    There is very little calorie difference when you run fast compared to running slow. So if you're concerned about burning calories for losing weight, its much of a muchness - however you will be able to run more regularly if you are running slow because you wont be as fatigued.

    6kgs is a decent amount to lose in a month - it wouldn't be an easy task, you're looking at 1.5kgs a week, I don't remember the maths off the top of my head but you'd nearly need to be in a deficit of 1500 calories a day:confused:? (you'll have to google the exacts, I dont remember correctly and its specific to your current weight/height!)


  • Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    jameshayes wrote: »
    There is very little calorie difference when you run fast compared to running slow. So if you're concerned about burning calories for losing weight, its much of a muchness - however you will be able to run more regularly if you are running slow because you wont be as fatigued.

    6kgs is a decent amount to lose in a month - it wouldn't be an easy task, you're looking at 1.5kgs a week, I don't remember the maths off the top of my head but you'd nearly need to be in a deficit of 1500 calories a day:confused:? (you'll have to google the exacts, I dont remember correctly and its specific to your current weight/height!)

    It's my own fault for overtraining for the marathon. I was running around 40k a week and not doing any core work.. I think this is what has me in this pickle :( I'm actually quite sore today so not sure what is going on. Might have to go back to physio.


  • Registered Users Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Seannew1


    Was in gym today and asked for an instructor who specialises in running who can give me a programme. Unfortunately, there were none but I will get one nonetheless. Anyone recommend what I should be doing??


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,825 ✭✭✭IvoryTower


    Seannew1 wrote: »
    Was in gym today and asked for an instructor who specialises in running who can give me a programme. Unfortunately, there were none but I will get one nonetheless. Anyone recommend what I should be doing??

    There are lots of plans online, it depends on what distance you want to train for


  • Registered Users Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Seannew1


    IvoryTower wrote: »
    There are lots of plans online, it depends on what distance you want to train for

    I suppose 5km to 10km. I've never been a huge fan of weights but cycle and swim regularly. Although, I know the importance of weights for running.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,016 ✭✭✭Itziger


    Seannew1 wrote: »
    I suppose 5km to 10km. I've never been a huge fan of weights but cycle and swim regularly. Although, I know the importance of weights for running.

    Weights for running..... amateur level like the 99.99% of us on here. Hardly necessary for anything over 1500mts I'd have thought.

    Don't think John Treacy hit the gym much!!!

    S&C has become fashionable and I do see some benefits to strengthening glutes/hip flexors/core maybe but it's hard to beat running. Just running.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Testosterscone


    Itziger wrote: »
    Weights for running..... amateur level like the 99.99% of us on here. Hardly necessary for anything over 1500mts I'd have thought.

    Don't think John Treacy hit the gym much!!!

    S&C has become fashionable and I do see some benefits to strengthening glutes/hip flexors/core maybe but it's hard to beat running. Just running.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=102490127


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Testosterscone


    Seannew1 wrote: »
    Was in gym today and asked for an instructor who specialises in running who can give me a programme. Unfortunately, there were none but I will get one nonetheless. Anyone recommend what I should be doing??

    There was a decent thread a while back which might be decent starting point

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=98423658


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 Ed McGroarty


    IvoryTower wrote: »
    tell her no, that youre a professional amateur runner and you cant be wasting your time and energy spinning. let me know how you get on :D

    Didn't go to well and aparently it doesn't count as date night either


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Seannew1 wrote: »
    Was in gym today and asked for an instructor who specialises in running who can give me a programme.

    You won't find one in a gym. People who work in gyms see running as 'cardio'.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    Guys I ran 16k prob around 2 weeks ago. Had to take a week off long runs due to work stuff but did 8k on Tuesday, 6k last night and want to do 18k tonight. I am actually a bit nervous about doing that and going that far... I don't know why. I get panic attacks and anxiety and this is just another thing for me to worry about I suppose! Anyone have any words of wisdom? I will be doing 6m/km I'd say... #snail'space


  • Registered Users Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Slow_Runner


    never_mind wrote: »
    Guys I ran 16k prob around 2 weeks ago. Had to take a week off long runs due to work stuff but did 8k on Tuesday, 6k last night and want to do 18k tonight. I am actually a bit nervous about doing that and going that far... I don't know why. I get panic attacks and anxiety and this is just another thing for me to worry about I suppose! Anyone have any words of wisdom? I will be doing 6m/km I'd say... #snail'space
    First of all 6m/km is NOT snail's pace - some people can do 4m/km some can do 8m/km - it's your pace and that is what suits you! Secondly are you training for anything and is the 18km part of a plan? You've doe 16km so 18km is not much of a jump - if you're worried about the distance slow down the pace to 6:10-6:30m/km at the start and listen to your body - if comfortable up the pace if not slow it down. The long run is supposed to be done at a nice easy pace. 
    And if the thoughts of it are daunting then think of it as 90mins - 2 hours of "me" time where you can get away from it all :) I find running really helpful from a mental health point of view and I would say 99.9% of everyone does. Remember running is a pastime and should be fun - forget about pace, have your route picked out and enjoy it. 
    Better yet if you know someone around the same pace as you and is doing that distance run with them - time will fly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    First of all 6m/km is NOT snail's pace - some people can do 4m/km some can do 8m/km - it's your pace and that is what suits you! Secondly are you training for anything and is the 18km part of a plan? You've doe 16km so 18km is not much of a jump - if you're worried about the distance slow down the pace to 6:10-6:30m/km at the start and listen to your body - if comfortable up the pace if not slow it down. The long run is supposed to be done at a nice easy pace. 
    And if the thoughts of it are daunting then think of it as 90mins - 2 hours of "me" time where you can get away from it all :) I find running really helpful from a mental health point of view and I would say 99.9% of everyone does. Remember running is a pastime and should be fun - forget about pace, have your route picked out and enjoy it. 
    Better yet if you know someone around the same pace as you and is doing that distance run with them - time will fly.

    Thanks so much!!! This is great advice. I would love to have a running buddy! My OH had promised to get back into having done a few marathons in the past but has since gone and joined a gym and started Yoga... Whatever!! LOL. I am going to take that advice - chill it out and just go with the flow. I am not training for anything in particular but I would love to get up to HM distance once a month or so for fitness purposes. I would love to run a HM race in the next few weeks but not sure about the Dub HM as I haven't heard great reports about the route!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    never_mind wrote: »
    Guys I ran 16k prob around 2 weeks ago. Had to take a week off long runs due to work stuff but did 8k on Tuesday, 6k last night and want to do 18k tonight. I am actually a bit nervous about doing that and going that far... I don't know why. I get panic attacks and anxiety and this is just another thing for me to worry about I suppose! Anyone have any words of wisdom? I will be doing 6m/km I'd say... #snail'space

    If you managed 16k 2 weeks ago you'll be fine for 18 tonight and the fact that you missed 1 single long run last week is completely irrelevant.

    But anyway. Do that:

    Run the first k. You know you can do that. If you feel awful after 1k, go home.
    Run the second k. You know you can do that. If you feel awful afterwards, go home.
    Run the third k. You know you can do that. If you feel awful ...

    You get the picture. In reality you'll get to 10k without a bother and then you're in the second half anyway and might as well finish. But if it causes anxiety, give yourself permission to go home at any time without feeling guilty. Chances are you'll finish the run without problems.


  • Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    If you managed 16k 2 weeks ago you'll be fine for 18 tonight and the fact that you missed 1 single long run last week is completely irrelevant.

    But anyway. Do that:

    Run the first k. You know you can do that. If you feel awful after 1k, go home.
    Run the second k. You know you can do that. If you feel awful afterwards, go home.
    Run the third k. You know you can do that. If you feel awful ...

    You get the picture. In reality you'll get to 10k without a bother and then you're in the second half anyway and might as well finish. But if it causes anxiety, give yourself permission to go home at any time without feeling guilty. Chances are you'll finish the run without problems.

    Eh this is better than the thousands I've spent on therapy. Send me on your postal address and I'll put a cheque in the post! Thanks so much for this. I'm feeling a bit zonked right now but going to get some dinner into me and then chill and get going after it digests!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,299 ✭✭✭ariana`


    never_mind wrote: »
    Eh this is better than the thousands I've spent on therapy. Send me on your postal address and I'll put a cheque in the post! Thanks so much for this. I'm feeling a bit zonked right now but going to get some dinner into me and then chill and get going after it digests!

    Getting out the door is the hardest part! After that it's just one foot in front of the other at whatever pace feels comfortable. Go for it ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    ariana` wrote: »
    Getting out the door is the hardest part! After that it's just one foot in front of the other at whatever pace feels comfortable. Go for it ;)

    Thanks, Ariana! I will post post-run and let ye know how many toe nails fell off on my way lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Didn't want to waste a new thread for this. I'm currently like, stuck (plateuing) at around 8 miles maximum. Any advice?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Didn't want to waste a new thread for this. I'm currently like, stuck (plateuing) at around 8 miles maximum. Any advice?

    How often do you run?
    Are you training for anything in particular?
    Have you run any races recently?
    Do you run for fun or are you looking to get faster/run farther?
    Are you following a plan?
    What do you want to achieve?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1



    How often do you run? Every other day, so 3-4 times a week.
    Are you training for anything in particular? No, just to be faster/fitter.
    Have you run any races recently? No.
    Do you run for fun or are you looking to get faster/run farther? Both.
    Are you following a plan? Kind of?
    What do you want to achieve? Just be a bit fitter and faster and lose weight.

    This.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    This.

    Best thing you could do is sign up for a race and follow a training plan. Hal higdon has some good basic plans online for 10k. With any luck you catch the bug and build from that.

    Also if you have a local parkrun start doing that every weekend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Best thing you could do is sign up for a race and follow a training plan. Hal higdon has some good basic plans online for 10k. With any luck you catch the bug and build from that.

    Also if you have a local parkrun start doing that every weekend.

    10k is easy though, I've done it before. Presume I'm looking at 15k next?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    10k is easy though, I've done it before. Presume I'm looking at 15k next?

    Ah didn't realise. So you could try and go faster for 10k or move to the half marathon. Hal higdon also has plans for half. Basic but fine to start with.

    Best thing i did was set myself specific goals which kept me motivated. Spent years running aimlessly which gets tedious.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Ah didn't realise. So you could try and go faster for 10k or move to the half marathon. Hal higdon also has plans for half. Basic but fine to start with.

    Best thing i did was set myself specific goals which kept me motivated. Spent years running aimlessly which gets tedious.

    Super, thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    never_mind wrote: »
    Guys I ran 16k prob around 2 weeks ago. Had to take a week off long runs due to work stuff but did 8k on Tuesday, 6k last night and want to do 18k tonight. I am actually a bit nervous about doing that and going that far... I don't know why. I get panic attacks and anxiety and this is just another thing for me to worry about I suppose! Anyone have any words of wisdom? I will be doing 6m/km I'd say... #snail'space

    If you managed 16k 2 weeks ago you'll be fine for 18 tonight and the fact that you missed 1 single long run last week is completely irrelevant.

    But anyway. Do that:

    Run the first k. You know you can do that. If you feel awful after 1k, go home.
    Run the second k. You know you can do that. If you feel awful afterwards, go home.
    Run the third k. You know you can do that. If you feel awful ...

    You get the picture. In reality you'll get to 10k without a bother and then you're in the second half anyway and might as well finish. But if it causes anxiety, give yourself permission to go home at any time without feeling guilty. Chances are you'll finish the run without problems.

    I did it!! I feel like my legs ar going to fall off but i did it! Thanks for the encouragement all.

    Next week... 21km?!?


  • Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    never_mind wrote: »
    Guys I ran 16k prob around 2 weeks ago. Had to take a week off long runs due to work stuff but did 8k on Tuesday, 6k last night and want to do 18k tonight. I am actually a bit nervous about doing that and going that far... I don't know why. I get panic attacks and anxiety and this is just another thing for me to worry about I suppose! Anyone have any words of wisdom? I will be doing 6m/km I'd say... #snail'space

    If you managed 16k 2 weeks ago you'll be fine for 18 tonight and the fact that you missed 1 single long run last week is completely irrelevant.

    But anyway. Do that:

    Run the first k. You know you can do that. If you feel awful after 1k, go home.
    Run the second k. You know you can do that. If you feel awful afterwards, go home.
    Run the third k. You know you can do that. If you feel awful ...

    You get the picture. In reality you'll get to 10k without a bother and then you're in the second half anyway and might as well finish. But if it causes anxiety, give yourself permission to go home at any time without feeling guilty. Chances are you'll finish the run without problems.

    I did it!! I feel like my legs ar going to fall off but i did it! Thanks for the encouragement all.

    Next week... 21km?!?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,299 ✭✭✭ariana`


    Didn't want to waste a new thread for this. I'm currently like, stuck (plateuing) at around 8 miles maximum. Any advice?
    Slow down and then slow down more and then try to run 8.1m and then 8.2m. And don't be afraid to run 2/3/4m runs as well. Every run doesn't have to be longer or faster than the previous one. Build it up slowly. Build the weekly mileage by no more than 10% a week and have a step back week every 3-4 weeks. Good luck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,299 ✭✭✭ariana`


    never_mind wrote: »
    I did it!! I feel like my legs ar going to fall off but i did it! Thanks for the encouragement all.

    Next week... 21km?!?

    Yay well done you!!!!!! Super :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭ger664


    Didn't want to waste a new thread for this. I'm currently like, stuck (plateuing) at around 8 miles maximum. Any advice?

    Do you enjoy/look forward to the 8 mile runs ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭jameshayes


    never_mind wrote: »
    I did it!! I feel like my legs ar going to fall off but i did it! Thanks for the encouragement all.

    Next week... 21km?!?

    3 weeks of progression followed by a week rest is always a good formula.. so if you increased your milage for the last 3 weeks you should consider doing maybe a 12k next week then bump to your 21 the following week


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