Random Running Questions

OOnegative

Swashbuckler wrote: »

I'd disagree to be honest. I think the times you are referring to are achievable for most people but some will have to make bigger sacrifices and work harder/better/smarter than others to achieve them. Again, not suggesting people aren't working hard but I think the limit is not talent to achieve the times some of the lads on here are running.

So they are talentless runners achieving times off hard work? And the times you are running are not achievable for everybody regardless of how much hard work/sacrifices etc they would have to put in because some are better than others at running simple as.

IvoryTower

did this topic not get its own thread yet or has it already been done too much to make one!

Swashbuckler

OOnegative wrote: »

So they are talentless runners achieving times off hard work? And the times you are running are not achievable for everybody regardless of how much hard work/sacrifices etc they would have to put in because some are better than others at running simple as.

Not talentless but the talent will be what takes them beyond the level they are at now. I think the times I am running are achievable for most but will come easier to some than others. It just depends on the sacrafices you're willing to make and how good your training is (or in my case I'm spoonfed by a very good coach). Otherwise I could still be slogging away at 43 minute 10k like I was January of last year wondering what I'm doing wrong. Anyway, as said above it probably deserves it's own thread but I've a feeling i'd be on a hiding to nothing on this one!

OOnegative

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Not talentless but the talent will be what takes them beyond the level they are at now. I think the times I am running are achievable for most but will come easier to some than others. It just depends on the sacrafices you're willing to make and how good your training is (or in my case I'm spoonfed by a very good coach). Otherwise I could still be slogging away at 43 minute 10k like I was January of last year wondering what I'm doing wrong. Anyway, as said above it probably deserves it's own thread but I've a feeling i'd be on a hiding to nothing on this one!

Not at all, point i’m trying to make is we all have some level of talent for running just some people’s are much greater than others. I’ll leave it there.

Swashbuckler

OOnegative wrote: »

Not at all, point i’m trying to make is we all have some level of talent for running just some people’s are much greater than others. I’ll leave it there.

I agree - which is why i see myself going much quicker over time (all going well) and where I'm at right now is more than achievable for most people (not everyone). I've put in a huge amount of specialised training, with a coach, lost 20lbs, cut way back on alcohol and junk food, worked on my technique etc etc etc. None of that is talent. Talent will hopefully be what drags me towards my end goals...anyway...like you said...unless anyone is brave enough to kick off a thread we'll leave it there. haha

Zipppy

Why do I feel guilty days I don't run? ðŸ˜

Safiri

Zipppy wrote: »

Why do I feel guilty days I don't run? ðŸ˜

Take it from an expert, because you know you could be out there bettering yourself when you aren't.

Swashbuckler

Zipppy wrote:

Why do I feel guilty days I don't run? ðŸ˜

Coz you're a runner

Zipppy

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Coz you're a runner

and this evening I'm gonna fix not running yesterday ...

Zipppy

Zipppy wrote:

and this evening I'm gonna fix not running yesterday ...

Yep well and truly fixed
Shattered now...but in a good way..my muscles ache.. isn't it great

ariana`

Zipppy wrote: »

and this evening I'm gonna fix not running yesterday ...

Except you can never really fix it though can you? In context i missed Monday's run too , it was only an easy run and i plan to fix it in on Thursday which was a planned rest day but then that has an knock on effect on Friday, right, so it's not really fixed is it, just patched over! But of course we're not elites and we have to deal in the real world where sometimes patching up is the best we can and it's better than not doing anything. Just more of my random musings really - well done on getting out yesterday, it sounds like you did a tough run

Huzzah!

ariana` wrote: »

Except you can never really fix it though can you? In context i missed Monday's run too , it was only an easy run and i plan to fix it in on Thursday which was a planned rest day but then that has an knock on effect on Friday, right, so it's not really fixed is it, just patched over! But of course we're not elites and we have to deal in the real world where sometimes patching up is the best we can and it's better than not doing anything. Just more of my random musings really - well done on getting out yesterday, it sounds like you did a tough run

Skip it and move on, I say.

(But the GUILT.)

Seannew1

I had a 5km race last night. I was shocked that I ran so well. I have done no speed work in about 6 weeks and had the track season about 4 weeks ago which left me tired and with a calf injury. I have been resting of late, swimming and just doing recovery runs really to keep the body ticking over but nothing serious. I came very close to a PB on a challenging route. I was shocked but delighted. My question: how was I able to bang out this time??!

TFBubendorfer

Seannew1 wrote: »

I had a 5km race last night. I was shocked that I ran so well. I have done no speed work in about 6 weeks and had the track season about 4 weeks ago which left me tired and with a calf injury. I have been resting of late, swimming and just doing recovery runs really to keep the body ticking over but nothing serious. I came very close to a PB on a challenging route. I was shocked but delighted. My question: how was I able to bang out this time??!

You were well rested for a change, instead of racing with tired legs.

As Arthur Lydiard once said, you cannot train hard and race well at the same time.

Seannew1

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

You were well rested for a change, instead of racing with tired legs.

As Arthur Lydiard once said, you cannot train hard and race well at the same time.

I think you're right! Maybe I should stop training and rest even more now :pac::pac::D

healy1835

I know it goes against the manufacturers guidelines etc....but has anyone washed their runners in the washing machine and lived to tell the tale? I generally don't care what shape the outer of my runners are, but I ran into a quite spectacular pile of cow****e this morning and I ain't handwashing them! I'll get another couple of hundred k out of them so I don't want to ruin them. So have people's runners retained performance after machine washing them?

Ted_YNWA

I have stuck mine in the wash loads of times & no issues of note.

IvoryTower

I washed 2 pairs together last week, threw them in pillowcase each and with a few towels. Didnt notice any wear on them after. Take the soles out when drying

Lazare

What do you need to do to figure out that sweet spot, on the border of blow up, marathon time?

Don't want to blow up, but don't want to pick low hanging fruit either.

Is this something that only a veteran marathon runner can truly get a handle on?

What strategy would you employ in a half to give you an idea?

MY BAD

Could anyone here recommend a 20km ish route in/around Naas? I used to live there a good few years ago but never ran that kind of distance.

Ultraman100

Mellow Yellow 26.2 wrote: »

Could anyone here recommend a 20km ish route in/around Naas? I used to live there a good few years ago but never ran that kind of distance.

From naas town head to,the naas bypass,mellienium park,along monread road
,head to johnstown backaround by naas rugby club out at entrance to naas naas race course.back to start

TFBubendorfer

Lazare wrote: »

What do you need to do to figure out that sweet spot, on the border of blow up, marathon time?

Don't want to blow up, but don't want to pick low hanging fruit either.

Is this something that only a veteran marathon runner can truly get a handle on?

What strategy would you employ in a half to give you an idea?

To get an idea of your race pace, run a couple of shorter races and put the numbers into the MacMillan running calculator. For me it works very well from the 5k to the half marathon. For a full marathon I always ended up running up to 5 minutes slower than the predicted time, but it still gives you a pretty good idea.

Just keep in mind that a 5k time only correlates to your marathon time if you're fully trained for a marathon. Too many guys seem to think that running a certain 5k time automatically means they will be able to run the marathon equivalent, and that's patently not the case.

Goose76

I’m on the athletics Ireland website and some well known clubs are not listed there, eg Waterstown Warriors. Just curious as to why this is - I thought all clubs had to be AI regulated

RayCun

Goose76 wrote: »

I’m on the athletics Ireland website and some well known clubs are not listed there, eg Waterstown Warriors. Just curious as to why this is - I thought all clubs had to be AI regulated

Waterstown Warriors are registered with Athletics Ireland, they're listed here
http://www.athleticsireland.ie/downloads/eshop/July_Club.pdf

They're not on the Find a Club page, but that information is not very accurate.


(There are training groups, eg Hissy Fit, that might blur the line between club and non-club, but they are not registered with AAI and members of the group are not members of AAI)

Goose76

RayCun wrote: »

Waterstown Warriors are registered with Athletics Ireland, they're listed here
http://www.athleticsireland.ie/downloads/eshop/July_Club.pdf

They're not on the Find a Club page, but that information is not very accurate.


(There are training groups, eg Hissy Fit, that might blur the line between club and non-club, but they are not registered with AAI and members of the group are not members of AAI)

Thanks a mil for that. Pity that the Find a Club Page isn’t up to date.

Testosterscone

Goose76 wrote: »

Thanks a mil for that. Pity that the Find a Club Page isn’t up to date.

Drop me a PM and I can put you in contact with one of the coaches if you are looking?

Goose76

Testosterscone wrote: »

Drop me a PM and I can put you in contact with one of the coaches if you are looking?

Thanks very much - right now just curious as am househunting and was wondering which clubs are where in the city thank you.

RayCun

Goose76 wrote: »

Thanks very much - right now just curious as am househunting and was wondering which clubs are where in the city thank you.

Ha, then that map is worse than useless, some of the locations are way off - they have Donore Harriers in Knocklyon and Rathfarnham in Dundrum :pac:

Spirogyra

Have caught a bit of a cold. Could it be the cold showers? by that I mean I turn the setting to cold for the last minute or so...thanks

cullenswood

Spirogyra wrote: »

Have caught a bit of a cold. Could it be the cold showers? by that I mean I turn the setting to cold for the last minute or so...thanks

Cold showers wouldn't cause a cold, a virus would. Your immune system might be a bit lower if you are training hard.