Random Running Questions

Miklos

Try the Run Hub on Aungier Street. Nice little shop.

s4uv3

A few years back I did a session with a coach where I did a balls-out 1 mile run, then he took that time and gave me a table which laid out all the paces I should do repeats at (200m/400m/600m/1k etc), and it gave times I should be capable of running 5k/10k/hm etc.

Anybody know what that was, and where I might find such a thing again without paying a half days wages for it?! I presume there's a formula he followed...

Singer

s4uv3 wrote: »

A few years back I did a session with a coach where I did a balls-out 1 mile run, then he took that time and gave me a table which laid out all the paces I should do repeats at (200m/400m/600m/1k etc), and it gave times I should be capable of running 5k/10k/hm etc.

Anybody know what that was, and where I might find such a thing again without paying a half days wages for it?! I presume there's a formula he followed...

Try this:
https://runsmartproject.com/calculator/

A mile isn’t necessarily a good indicator for long distances, but it’s not a bad start.

s4uv3

Singer wrote: »

Try this:
https://runsmartproject.com/calculator/

A mile isn’t necessarily a good indicator for long distances, but it’s not a bad start.

Ah you're a superstar, that's exactly what I'm after. Thanks very much 😊
I'm way back at the beginning after a long hiatus so won't be tackling a marathon anytime soon 😉

thefa

Anybody else run the Charleville half today? I got caught up to by my target time pacers group around the 7km mark but kicked on and didn’t see them for the rest of the race but finished a good few seconds off my target. Friend running left his pacer around a mile out and just made his time slot. Edit - just seem the results and pacer did pass me!

Overall a good race and conditions were testing enough - felt quite humid for the first half of the race.

HelenAnne

Has anyone any tips for bouncing back from a slump?
I don’t really know what’s wrong with me - I’ve been training ok all year, not injured etc. early in the year I seemed to be improving, but then I sort of plateau-ed (which is fine) and I had a bit of bad luck in races - I started getting a lot of stitches which slowed me down.

I was feeling a bit tired too, but I knew I’d have a break in August - I had three little holidays planned, so I just ran easy & when I could for three weeks, then took a full week completely off.

I started running again last Monday & I felt terrible every day - tired, sore, stiff, out of breath.

Then I raced yesterday & it was a disaster - my legs were heavy, I got stitches on both sides, I felt dizzy. Finished a 10k in 48 minutes. My pb is 42.20 & I haven’t run slower than 44 mins in years.

What might this be? Lost fitness after my break?

scotindublin

This is probably not the correct term but have noticed a bit of "creep" on my insoles when running in the rain; it is like the insole crumples/creases under my foot.

Any recommendations for insoles as a straight swap out?

IvoryTower

HelenAnne wrote: »

Has anyone any tips for bouncing back from a slump?
I don’t really know what’s wrong with me - I’ve been training ok all year, not injured etc. early in the year I seemed to be improving, but then I sort of plateau-ed (which is fine) and I had a bit of bad luck in races - I started getting a lot of stitches which slowed me down.

I was feeling a bit tired too, but I knew I’d have a break in August - I had three little holidays planned, so I just ran easy & when I could for three weeks, then took a full week completely off.

I started running again last Monday & I felt terrible every day - tired, sore, stiff, out of breath.

Then I raced yesterday & it was a disaster - my legs were heavy, I got stitches on both sides, I felt dizzy. Finished a 10k in 48 minutes. My pb is 42.20 & I haven’t run slower than 44 mins in years.

What might this be? Lost fitness after my break?

A month off is a long time so you could just be unfit, it might be worth going to the docs to get the bloods checked anyway just for peace of mind.

Murph_D

HelenAnne wrote: »

Has anyone any tips for bouncing back from a slump?
I don’t really know what’s wrong with me - I’ve been training ok all year, not injured etc. early in the year I seemed to be improving, but then I sort of plateau-ed (which is fine) and I had a bit of bad luck in races - I started getting a lot of stitches which slowed me down.

I was feeling a bit tired too, but I knew I’d have a break in August - I had three little holidays planned, so I just ran easy & when I could for three weeks, then took a full week completely off.

I started running again last Monday & I felt terrible every day - tired, sore, stiff, out of breath.

Then I raced yesterday & it was a disaster - my legs were heavy, I got stitches on both sides, I felt dizzy. Finished a 10k in 48 minutes. My pb is 42.20 & I haven’t run slower than 44 mins in years.

What might this be? Lost fitness after my break?

Well you really only had a week off fully but maybe this race came a little too soon for you after a month of holidaying and taking it easy - which is a good thing in the long run. It’s hard to go back into full race mode without recent intensity, I think. Give yourself a few more weeks, H.

MY BAD

HelenAnne wrote: »

Has anyone any tips for bouncing back from a slump?
I don’t really know what’s wrong with me - I’ve been training ok all year, not injured etc. early in the year I seemed to be improving, but then I sort of plateau-ed (which is fine) and I had a bit of bad luck in races - I started getting a lot of stitches which slowed me down.

I was feeling a bit tired too, but I knew I’d have a break in August - I had three little holidays planned, so I just ran easy & when I could for three weeks, then took a full week completely off.

I started running again last Monday & I felt terrible every day - tired, sore, stiff, out of breath.

Then I raced yesterday & it was a disaster - my legs were heavy, I got stitches on both sides, I felt dizzy. Finished a 10k in 48 minutes. My pb is 42.20 & I haven’t run slower than 44 mins in years.

What might this be? Lost fitness after my break?

I'd say forget about racing and slowly build it up. If you've been off for a while trying to get back in a routine can be tricky with it feeling forced, especially when your fitness has gone a bit backwards. The buzz will come back as your fitness increases

HelenAnne

Murph_D wrote: »

Well you really only had a week off fully but maybe this race came a little too soon for you after a month of holidaying and taking it easy - which is a good thing in the long run. It’s hard to go back into full race mode without recent intensity, I think. Give yourself a few more weeks, H.

Yes, in August I did 32 miles, 15 miles, 30 miles, 22 miles, then a week off the first week of Sep. so I know that’s a good bit less than July which was 40, 38, 40, 43, but I didn’t think my fitness would go SO fast!
At every kilometer marker yesterday I thought I wouldn’t make it to the end of the race, and I was wrecked and sore all day after it.

Oh well, back to trying to build fitness again I suppose!

Kellygirl

HelenAnne wrote: »

Yes, in August I did 32 miles, 15 miles, 30 miles, 22 miles, then a week off the first week of Sep. so I know that’s a good bit less than July which was 40, 38, 40, 43, but I didn’t think my fitness would go SO fast!
At every kilometer marker yesterday I thought I wouldn’t make it to the end of the race, and I was wrecked and sore all day after it.

Oh well, back to trying to build fitness again I suppose!

That seems slightly odd to me as that’s still decent enough mileage even if easy miles. Have you had bloods checked? Vitamin B12 or Iron? Are you eating and hydrating enough?

HelenAnne

Kellygirl wrote: »

That seems slightly odd to me as that’s still decent enough mileage even if easy miles. Have you had bloods checked? Vitamin B12 or Iron? Are you eating and hydrating enough?

And I did sessions 3 of the 4 weeks in August as well.

I haven’t had my bloods checked - I think I would feel a bit like the worried well asking for that. (Because I’m fine for everyday life - it’s just running I feel tired). The odd time over the years I’ve had blood checked I’m always fine.

Definitely eating enough - maybe too much with holidays.

I THINK I’m well hydrated & I should have been rested after my holiday.

I could probably start going to bed earlier & drinking less coffee.

I suspect I might just be someone who finds it hard to build fitness & loses it fast?

Kellygirl

HelenAnne wrote: »

And I did sessions 3 of the 4 weeks in August as well.

I haven’t had my bloods checked - I feel like the worried well asking for that. The odd time over the years I’ve had blood checked I’m always fine.

Definitely eating enough - maybe too much with holidays.

I THINK I’m well hydrated & I should have been rested after my holiday.

I could probably start going to bed earlier & drinking less coffee.

I suspect I might just be someone who finds it hard to build fitness & loses it fast?

I know what you mean but my sister is the practice nurse at our GPs and she takes our bloods yearly to check for everything. She’s been chasing me round the place for a few months to come in and do it. You could look at something like Revive Active for a month or two?

HelenAnne

Kellygirl wrote: »

I know what you mean but my sister is the practice nurse at our GPs and she takes our bloods yearly to check for everything. She’s been chasing me round the place for a few months to come in and do it. You could look at something like Revive Active for a month or two?

Good idea! Thanks! I just started on pharmaton active life this week, so fingers crossed!

MY BAD

If Kipchoge manages a 1:59.xx in the Ineos challenge will it be counted as a marathon world record? Or is it like Nikes sub 2 attempt?

Singer

Mellow Yellow 26.2 wrote: »

If Kipchoge manages a 1:59.xx in the Ineos challenge will it be counted as a marathon world record? Or is it like Nikes sub 2 attempt?

Neither are, as there are rotating pacemakers. The goal of the event isn’t to break two hours under IAAF rules.

TriNRun

bucketybuck wrote: »

Is there such thing as a beginners ultra run?

I was curious about pushing past marathon distance and perhaps trying a 50km run, purely for the personal challenge and to see if I can do it.

I saw a 50km run advertised recently but when I looked into it the tone was very much a case of "beginners not welcome", "if you can't do this pace you will be told to get off the track", "you losers shouldn't be here".

I believe I could have done it in the time allowed but here's the thing, I don't know, I've never done one, I don't know what it will be like for me after 42kms. I'd like to find out but I don't particularly want some smug prick rolling his eyes at me should I do something wrong either.

Are there any of those longer distance runs that are a bit more receptive to first timers?

I did donadea 50k last year and I never experienced such negativity from race organizers before , never again, assholes

RacoonQueen

TriNRun wrote: »

I did donadea 50k last year and I never experienced such negativity from race organizers before , never again, assholes

I think you interpreted the organisers incorrectly. All lighthearted.

Rocky Seven

TriNRun wrote: »

I did donadea 50k last year and I never experienced such negativity from race organizers before , never again, assholes

One less ironman tattooed compression socked hero that won't be entering next year so .....

Edit-must work on my people skills

Itziger

Is 50k really an Ultra though?

boydkev

Itziger wrote: »

Is 50k really an Ultra though?

Yes Wikipedia says so.:)

An ultramarathon, also called ultra distance or ultra running, is any footrace longer than the traditional marathon length of 42.195 kilometres (26.219 mi).

Singer

Itziger wrote: »

Is 50k really an Ultra though?

It depends on the person I’m talking to.

If they’re not a runner: “yeh, I’ve done an ultra. The loops went on forever!”

If they’re a runner: “I only did a 50k, handy loops on soft ground and a good atmosphere. Easier than a marathon really”.

Rocky Seven

Itziger wrote: »

Is 50k really an Ultra though?

No.... But a 6 or 7hr 45 bike ride defo is

Fenster

Generally speaking, which professional should I talk to about gait, posture and some deep aches that I feel have been made worse through running? I've attended both a GP and a physiotherapist. They wanted to treat the symptoms: the GP offered me painkillers and the physio offered to massage the sore muscle. Neither were able to refer me onto somebody who could help with the cause.

Should I contact a sports medicine specialist?

kal7

Find a physiotherapist and / or osteopath with interest in running.

Ask around in your local area, especially running community, for someone who is a runner and in those professions.

Itziger

Fenster wrote: »

Generally speaking, which professional should I talk to about gait, posture and some deep aches that I feel have been made worse through running? I've attended both a GP and a physiotherapist. They wanted to treat the symptoms: the GP offered me painkillers and the physio offered to massage the sore muscle. Neither were able to refer me onto somebody who could help with the cause.

Should I contact a sports medicine specialist?

First things first. Get a new GP

Years ago I had a problem with a hip and the GP sent me to a podologist after having the thing x-rayed.

Podologist did the trick.

TriNRun

Rocky Seven wrote: »

One less ironman tattooed compression socked hero that won't be entering next year so .....

Edit-must work on my people skills

What I love about running and triathlon events is that sense of camaraderie that we are all in it together and are only racing against ourselves and the ageing process , this is why I love ironman and marathon events and other events so much positivity to compensate for the torture and pain endured to reach the line, all this was sorely missed in donedea 50k last year when I flew through it and I lament its the ethos of the event that is the problem, too much begrudgery within that dark forest on those wet sunless days , not how anyone should waste a day in their lives running around in circles in a drab environment listening to abuse being thrown at those at the back of the race

HelenAnne

TriNRun wrote: »

What I love about running and triathlon events is that sense of camaraderie that we are all in it together and are only racing against ourselves and the ageing process , this is why I love ironman and marathon events and other events so much positivity to compensate for the torture and pain endured to reach the line, all this was sorely missed in donedea 50k last year when I flew through it and I lament its the ethos of the event that is the problem, too much begrudgery within that dark forest on those wet sunless days , not how anyone should waste a day in their lives running around in circles in a drab environment listening to abuse being thrown at those at the back of the race

I suppose sometimes a little bit of abuse (in a light-hearted way) can make you feel better about the suffering and take it less seriously?

Personally, a bit of abuse from a certain people-skills-challenged poster up-thread after my shocker of a race last Saturday actually did make me feel a bit better. Having a bit of fun poked at my time (& age! ) made it seem like less of a big deal that i ran so badly.

I'm sure that's how it's meant at Donadea? (I've never done it, but I know loads of people who have done it and loved it).

TriNRun

HelenAnne wrote: »

I suppose sometimes a little bit of abuse (in a light-hearted way) can make you feel better about the suffering and take it less seriously?

Personally, a bit of abuse from a certain people-skills-challenged poster up-thread after my shocker of a race last Saturday actually did make me feel a bit better. Having a bit of fun poked at my time (& age! ) made it seem like less of a big deal that i ran so badly.

I'm sure that's how it's meant at Donadea? (I've never done it, but I know loads of people who have done it and loved it).

Maybe those people are masochistic or self defeating but if you are not , its best to steer clear like so many others do