Irish Water Discussion {MERGE}

FreudianSlippers · 10-10-2014 2:22pm

The Act is quite clear that the customer is the occupier of the premises. Where there is a tenant, it is them.

A landlord should have no issue with paying for a tenant, so I'm not sure they need such a clause. Perhaps to save hassle (although incorrectly) they feel it is easier to pay and then try to get it off the tenant - in reality the landlord just has to tell UÉ the details of the tenant and it's not their problem anymore.

listermint · 10-10-2014 2:36pm

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

The Act is quite clear that the customer is the occupier of the premises. Where there is a tenant, it is them.

A landlord should have no issue with paying for a tenant, so I'm not sure they need such a clause. Perhaps to save hassle (although incorrectly) they feel it is easier to pay and then try to get it off the tenant - in reality the landlord just has to tell UÉ the details of the tenant and it's not their problem anymore.

Exactly! Which is what i am getting at.

Losty Dublin · 11-10-2014 12:24pm

Wouldn't it be the irony of irony's if the water cannon came out and was used at the march today?

Little CuChulainn · 11-10-2014 12:28pm

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Wouldn't it be the irony of irony's if the water cannon came out and was used at the march today?

What water canon?

Bepolite · 11-10-2014 12:36pm

I did have to have a chuckle at Burton''s comments.

Losty Dublin · 11-10-2014 12:46pm

Bepolite wrote: »

I did have to have a chuckle at Burton''s comments.

It was one of those things where we know what she was trying to say but it came out so so wrong

Xenji · 12-10-2014 1:37pm

I am living in an apartment that as it stands cannot be metered, I am sharing it with my girlfriend at the moment, but the lease is in my name, can I put down that I am the only resident and just give my PPS number or will they check this out?

Fred Swanson · 12-10-2014 1:47pm

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tayto lover · 12-10-2014 2:23pm

Bepolite wrote: »

I did have to have a chuckle at Burton''s comments.

It made me laugh especially when her phone is being paid for by the taxpayer :pac:

Bepolite · 12-10-2014 2:31pm

tayto lover wrote: »

It made me laugh especially when her phone is being paid for by the taxpayer :pac:

I think they point she was making - is so are theirs!

Robbo · 13-10-2014 3:26pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j1x0P5Lc-M

For your amusement. Note mis-spelling of Anonymous and the usual contractual nonsense.

hullaballoo · 13-10-2014 3:37pm

Robbo wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j1x0P5Lc-M

For your amusement. Note mis-spelling of Anonymous and the usual contractual nonsense.

That genius posted his ice bucket challenge on his YouTube channel as well. Obviously the anonymous aspect of Anonymous escaped him.

Losty Dublin · 13-10-2014 9:46pm

Our friends from the National Citizens Movement have, according this, taken Irish Water to Court.

The legal case is with thanks to Allied Tiles and Bathrooms, Trim, who coincidentally enough are part owned by Damien Gibney, who's name has come up in the Freeman thread a few times.

https://www.facebook.com/1545240672365897/photos/pb.1545240672365897.-2207520000.1413232651./1580228852200412/?type=3&theater

tayto lover · 13-10-2014 10:03pm

Bepolite wrote: »

I think they point she was making - is so are theirs!

Glass houses so.:rolleyes:

Robbo · 14-10-2014 10:12am

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Our friends from the National Citizens Movement have, according this, taken Irish Water to Court.

The legal case is with thanks to Allied Tiles and Bathrooms, Trim, who coincidentally enough are part owned by Damien Gibney, who's name has come up in the Freeman thread a few times.

https://www.facebook.com/1545240672365897/photos/pb.1545240672365897.-2207520000.1413232651./1580228852200412/?type=3&theater

Gibney would have been one of those who left the Rodolphus Allen Trust in acrimony but had no problem being part of the Attack the Tax "cash for paper" scam.

If the promised wave of baseless lay litigation arises, will we be looking at the Isaac Water Order?

Going Forward · 14-10-2014 10:34am

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

I was purposely providing a "simplistic" example. But prey tell, what are our options wise one?

Pray;)

whippet · 14-10-2014 12:33pm

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Our friends from the National Citizens Movement have, according this, taken Irish Water to Court.

The legal case is with thanks to Allied Tiles and Bathrooms, Trim, who coincidentally enough are part owned by Damien Gibney, who's name has come up in the Freeman thread a few times.

https://www.facebook.com/1545240672365897/photos/pb.1545240672365897.-2207520000.1413232651./1580228852200412/?type=3&theater

Is this Allied Ceramic Tiles which Mr Gibney is a director that is in liquidation according to Solocheck, there was a Creditors meeting about 12 months ago

http://www.solocheck.ie/Irish-Company/Allied-Ceramic-Tiles-Limited-252525

http://www.insolvencyjournal.ie/news/allied-ceramic-tiles-limited

14-10-2014 3:29pm

Robbo wrote: »

If the promised wave of baseless lay litigation arises, will we be looking at the Isaac Water Order?

Love how utterly audience specific this joke is. Wunderful

Grolschevik · 15-10-2014 3:58pm

Another potential lay litigant. If it's true about the ease of tampering, he may have a point. But that point is marred somewhat by the "No consent. No meter here" scrawled on his driveway.

Mullingar man is taking Irish Water to court

... Speaking to the Westmeath Examiner on Tuesday, Mr Murphy said that he felt compelled to act as he was concerned that “anyone in Ireland can remove water meters, add anything they want in and it will come out of your taps”.

Last month one of Mr Murphy’s co-founders of the anti-water charges group Irish Citizens Movement, Meath resident Alan Law, released video footage which claimed to show the relative ease with which someone could tamper with a household’s water supply without any tools.

“When the meter is in, you just open the shore, you turn off the water, you get your two hands on the meter, turn it anti-clockwise, screw it out, squirt what you like into the hole, put the meter back in, turn on the water again and that’s it. When the person turns on their tap whatever you squirted in will come out. It could be anything. I want my unit put back the way it was, a sealed unit,” Mr Murphy said.

http://www.westmeathexaminer.ie/news/roundup/articles/2014/10/14/4033132-mullingar-man-is-taking-irish-water-to-court/

Fred Swanson · 15-10-2014 4:12pm

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Grolschevik · 15-10-2014 4:17pm

Doesn't show how long/difficult to open meter up, though.

Graham · 15-10-2014 4:18pm

Grolschevik wrote: »

Another potential lay litigant. If it's true about the ease of tampering, he may have a point. But that point is marred somewhat by the "No consent. No meter here" scrawled on his driveway.

http://www.westmeathexaminer.ie/news/roundup/articles/2014/10/14/4033132-mullingar-man-is-taking-irish-water-to-court/

Has Mr Murphy any particular reason to suspect that someone would be interested in tampering with his water supply? :rolleyes:

Would it be safe to assume that Mr Murphy's local pub supply his pint in a sippy-cup to ensure nobody is able to 'squirt whatever they like' into it?

Fred Swanson · 15-10-2014 4:21pm

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Grolschevik · 15-10-2014 4:23pm

Graham wrote: »

Has Mr Murphy any particular reason to suspect that someone would be interested in tampering with his water supply? :rolleyes:

Would it be safe to assume that Mr Murphy's local pub supply his pint in a sippy-cup to ensure nobody is able to 'squirt whatever they like' into it?

If this option had been open to Fran the other night, he needn't have risked getting the gun off Patrick in order to whack Nidge.

Graham · 15-10-2014 4:36pm

Grolschevik wrote: »

If this option had been open to Fran the other night, he needn't have risked getting the gun off Patrick in order to whack Nidge.

According to the other tin-foil-hat brigade, there's nothing to worry about. Anything injected into the water meter will be immediately wiped out by the fluoride. :pac:

chasm · 15-10-2014 4:58pm

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Our friends from the National Citizens Movement have, according this, taken Irish Water to Court.

The legal case is with thanks to Allied Tiles and Bathrooms, Trim, who coincidentally enough are part owned by Damien Gibney, who's name has come up in the Freeman thread a few times.

https://www.facebook.com/1545240672365897/photos/pb.1545240672365897.-2207520000.1413232651./1580228852200412/?type=3&theater

The "myths about irish water" status that was doing the rounds on FB and elsewhere recently was written by someone linked the NCM.

brownej · 15-10-2014 5:58pm

Grolschevik wrote: »

Another potential lay litigant. If it's true about the ease of tampering, he may have a point. But that point is marred somewhat by the "No consent. No meter here" scrawled on his driveway.

http://www.westmeathexaminer.ie/news/roundup/articles/2014/10/14/4033132-mullingar-man-is-taking-irish-water-to-court/

Anyone can put something through his letterbox too....

Fred Swanson · 15-10-2014 6:11pm

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Going Forward · 15-10-2014 6:25pm

brownej wrote: »

Anyone can put something through his letterbox too....

Stamped lead seals are wire connected through each part of the meter fittings in some states in the US, to deter tampering.

Losty Dublin · 15-10-2014 7:27pm

Grolschevik wrote: »

Doesn't show how long/difficult to open meter up, though.

It takes a fair little bit of work and you need some tools which, although reasonable easy to buy, are not what you'd have sitting in your tool box. While it isn't rocket science, it's not exactly something a lay man can do in seconds and it's not something everybody is capable of doing. Certainly, it's not as simple, handy or as quick as they want you to believe.

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