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Door to door sellers, are they getting more frequent

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    Dealer? I have been cold calling since 2001. Love it.

    I hate people like you.:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    I don't answer my door.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Nope, sorry. No bullying, great childhood and all that. What I'd say to you here I'd say to your face no bother at all. Indeed if anything Boards.ie's rules of conduct render me nicer on here and made me a nicer human being. *bats eyelids and points at dimples*. Well nicer online anyway. In the real world I avoid conflict and generally don't respond to eejits, but if they're uninvited and pushy while feeding me rehearsed BS... Let's just say I have zero loyalty to social codes of staying quiet and will tell them to bugger off.

    Bollocks. Airtricity has a well known air of ballsology with their third part door to door reps and their parent company was fined millions for misleading people. Eircom phonewatch in reality is about as much use as tits on a bull. Too easily bypassed and even if it's not you're relying on the Guards to show up in time(after the delay in informing them). That's just for starters. There's no such thing as a free lunch folks. If something needs on the doorstep pressured selling that should tell you something of the quality involved.
    Already have. Only reduced the infestation on my time.

    Oh man I'm lolling here. :pac: The mind of the salesman. I suppose if one falls so easily for delusions it can be easy to force same on others. Actually I have found that to be the case. The best salesmen I know fall much more easily for others sales tactics. A close mate of mine makes mid six figures a year in high end sales and he'd be the first to admit a certain weakness in his choices when faced with other good sales types. You'd think it would give you more insight, but apparently not. He reckons it's the thrill of the sale itself, regardless of which side you're on, so a sales type gets a bigger buzz than a civilian. I'd agree with him. You sound like a religious nut at this stage. Or an Amway rep or some other pyramid schemer who bought the self help and sales and how to win friends and influence people books. Keep drinking that Kool aid. Whatever floats your boat and all that.

    Oh man, this keeps getting better. Actually people are generally appalling at reading other people. Hence they fall for BS on a near daily basis. Sales of the hard sell type rely on this. From snakeoil salesmen to vaccum salesmen to car dealers. That's before we get to advertising.

    Or god forbid do your own research on utilities and services without singing up to a contract on the spur of the moment while giving some uninvited gimp you've just met your bank details.

    Basically door to door hawkers of all hues are human spam. Irritating, uninvited and can be dodgy. I've a spam filter for my email so why not for my life?

    I'm rubbish with the multi quote feature, so Im not even going to try!

    Some of your points have basis, but they are overshadowed by some of the abusive ways you describe people out trying to make a living. Ive a very thick skin, I would have to in order to succeed at direct sales so Im not bothered personally, but calling people gimps etc is more a reflection upon yourself than the sales person. I suppose you would rather all salesman were sacked and they joined the dole queue and claimed off the state instead of doing what many consider to be a very difficult job in order to make their way in life.

    I believe very strongly in what I do, if I didn't believe in it how on earth could I expect others to also believe in it?

    I think you have not had someone like me come to your door, because as you know, most sales reps are only there for a very short period of time and they may not be fully informed of everything, or not confident enough or experienced enough to know how to handle people who are objectionable when they first open the door. BTW, the people who are rude when they first open the door, are usually much easier to change over. I have always found that to be true regardless of what product I have been offering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    I hate people like you.:mad:

    Spread the love. Have a hug.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Anyone ever seen the movie "Glengarry Glen Ross"?

    I'm wondering which character from that TireeTerror most resembles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    Spread the love. Have a hug.

    feck that

    ~hugs my 'no cold calling' sign ~

    You just be glad that I don't keep you standing there for 30-40min and waste your time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    Anyone ever seen the movie "Glengarry Glen Ross"?

    I'm wondering which character from that TireeTerror most resembles.

    Im Pacino, always closing! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Im Pacino, always closing! :D

    The movie is superb, no question about that - but what do salesman like yourself think of how your profession is portrayed?

    Admittedly they are selling tracts of worthless swampland, and I'm sure your products are excellent in every respect, but are there large elements of truth in the kind of self-delusion that goes on?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Some of your points have basis, but they are overshadowed by some of the abusive ways you describe people out trying to make a living. Ive a very thick skin, I would have to in order to succeed at direct sales so Im not bothered personally,
    I believe ya, thousands wouldn't.
    but calling people gimps etc is more a reflection upon yourself than the sales person.
    Cold calling people in their homes is at best irritating at worst parasitic. BTW the "reflection on yourself" response is a tad banal and means little. Popular among your Dale Carnegie converts mind you.
    I suppose you would rather all salesman were sacked and they joined the dole queue and claimed off the state instead of doing what many consider to be a very difficult job in order to make their way in life.
    1) I never suggested the dole queue, so that's another dead end. 2) why pray tell is cold calling a "very difficult job"? Maybe because you're intruding on people and they don't want whatever you're selling and it's only by BS that they buy into it?
    I think you have not had someone like me come to your door,
    In my time I have dealt with many many sales people, from the invited(fine) to the uninvited(not fine). From scammers, to pyramid scheme idiots, to time share hawkers on various holidays, to utility hawkers all the way up to luxury goods types. I'm quite sure I've met your equal and most likely your better. The plain fact is I know what I want before I set foot in a shop or any sales environment. I've already done my research and a lot of it. In the vast majority of cases I know more about what I want than the salesperson. Generally the only need I have of the sales staff is to inform me if the item(s) I want are in stock and to point me to the till or office.

    Handy hint for the folks out there, if you're in the market for an item of any kind, seek out the counsel of a chap or chappess who repairs them for a living. EG you want to buy a secondhand car? Ask a mechanic for the best and most reliable bet for your needs. Goes for pretty much everything, cars, IT gear, homeware. They'll give you far better advice than any sales type. They're not trying to sell you anything so are a good source of info.

    In any event, you or any other of your particular ilk would be on the back foot the very second you ring my doorbell uninvited. Game over. There is nothing of your spiel that would interest me. As I said if you need to pimp a service by cold calling, it is by near definition in need of pimping.
    BTW, the people who are rude when they first open the door, are usually much easier to change over. I have always found that to be true regardless of what product I have been offering.
    You keep telling yourself and your trainees that. I just quite simply have no interest in engaging with someone I have not chosen to engage with when they invade my private time and space. I wouldn't be rude either unless said timesink didn't take a clear and polite no for an answer. I would say I've gone up a notch with salespeople only a handful of times in my life*, but I had no difficulty doing so and wouldn't hesitate again in such circumstances.



    *other than the moron who showed up last weekend on a Sunday at dinner time, the last time was a few years back with an airtricity gimp. He was training in someone, so I was faced with him and a woman who I could see was uncomfortable. I told him politely I wasn't interested. That was at 4 PM. At 7 PM this fcukwit called again. Clearly thinking his smiley spiel would triumph. After all he bought the books and tapes and wanted to impress his young charge. That's when I became "impolite" and suggested he perform coitus on himself and go away. The word is NO Ted, learn its meaning.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,557 ✭✭✭madalig12


    Had someone collecting DD for Concerns monthly large CEO paycheck. He asked me my name and was told 'Mr. Notinterested' he of course continued his speel well past the 'i dont do direct debit' part and he even threw in that signing up gives me a say in other countries policys for example concern stopped child workers being exploited in Bangladesh....RIGHT. Anyways he eventually gave up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Wibbs wrote: »
    After all he bought the books and tapes

    Showing your age there, Wibbs!

    Those tapes are comedy gold though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Tin Foil Hat


    I don't answer my door.

    I can't quite bring myself to not answer the door, but I've given up completely on being polite to cold callers. A quick, "No thanks, not interested", half way through their introductory sentence is always enough to bring the matter to a swift close.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Ah lads, TireeTerror has you hook, line and sinker. Tells you that he loves selling door-to-door, that he can charm the pants off anyone, that he ignores your "do not call" sign, that everyone else is clearly a mindless boring idiot and to stick a cherry on top he says he doesn't pay tax.

    He hung a big hook out there with a big juicy worm on it and ye couldn't help yourselves. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    seamus wrote: »
    Ah lads, TireeTerror has you hook, line and sinker. Tells you that he loves selling door-to-door, that he can charm the pants off anyone, that he ignores your "do not call" sign, that everyone else is clearly a mindless boring idiot and to stick a cherry on top he says he doesn't pay tax.

    He hung a big hook out there with a big juicy worm on it and ye couldn't help yourselves. :D

    If you are insinuating I am a troll, let me tell you that is the most hideous thing I have ever heard in my life..... :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭jay1988


    If you are insinuating I am a troll, let me tell you that is the most hideous thing I have ever heard in my life..... :p

    More of a spoofer IMO


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Thomas D


    Yeah Ive met your type before, spouting all the hardman talk on the internet, the typical keyboard warrior. In reality usually the louder people shout online, the more timid they are in real life. Usually they are victims of a poor childhood, bullying at school etc etc, so ranting on forums online is a way for them to feel more manly.

    The mere fact you think all of these companies are scamming you just says it all, closed mind and not able to see a better offer when its staring you in the face. If you feel so desperate as you sound, perhaps you should ask the companies concerned to add you to their "Do Not Call" register and your address will be removed from the handheld devices most modern salesforces use.

    15 years knocking on doors and I can assure you I have met every single type of person and its extremely rare that anyone is overly aggressive, its not easy to be aggressive to someone who is charming and good looking and well presented and knows their product inside out. In fact several timers per day as I'm acquiring the customers bank details, they would say "You know I dont normally ever do this, switch at the door, I dont even know why I am now....." and I just smile and tell them "I get that all the time!".

    Regardless of what anyone posts up here, most people love a bit of charm, especially in Ireland where its seriously lacking in general day to day exchanges. I have never met so many moody and depressed people serving me in shops than I have in Ireland, its quite frankly unbelievable considering employers have a huge choice given the unemployment levels at present. The other day a woman from Nigeria I think, served me at my local Aldi and she was bursting with enthusiasm, scanning items at 1000 miles per hour, chatting away, joking and laughing, it was a great thing to see. When I looked up from putting my pin number in the card machine, I could see all the people in the queue behind me smiling at the way she was behaving. Posting this reminds me that I promised myself that I would email Aldi to let them know how great a job she was doing.

    Good to see that charm is working out for. 15 years of walking around housing estates in the rain interrupting people's dinner.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    seamus wrote: »
    Ah lads, TireeTerror has you hook, line and sinker. Tells you that he loves selling door-to-door, that he can charm the pants off anyone, that he ignores your "do not call" sign, that everyone else is clearly a mindless boring idiot and to stick a cherry on top he says he doesn't pay tax.

    He hung a big hook out there with a big juicy worm on it and ye couldn't help yourselves. :D
    Stop being so sensible Seamus you bastid. Are you trying to sell me something? No means No FFS :D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,754 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    what do you do for a living wibbs out of curiosity? public sector?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    I just don't answer the door. It's particularly easy in a first-floor apartment though. The buzzer goes, if I'm not expecting anyone I peer down below through the blinds, and that's that.

    I couldn't be a door-to-door sales rep myself though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    Thomas D wrote: »
    Good to see that charm is working out for. 15 years of walking around housing estates in the rain interrupting people's dinner.

    I'm often met with a "Oh I've just put the dinner out..." and Im like "Yes, I can smell it, it smells amazing, what are we having?" and next thing I'm having some free dinner. JACKPOT!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Slicemeister


    Have them at my door twice three times a week.

    Just gotta be assertive. No twice at most then thanks goodbye, shut door.

    I'd imagine there's a Dail seat available solely on the strength of a promise to make this form of sales illegal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭TGJD


    This week alone I've had 2 different crowds selling Phonewatch, one lad selling Sky, one selling pre pay power or something I didn't understand.
    That's not counting the charity chuggers that we keep getting calls from or the energy supplier changeover people.

    A few years ago I got stung by one selling broadband so I swore never to sign up on the doorstep to anything ever again.
    Any interaction that involves a 2nd breath is seen as an invitation so you have to be clinical when cutting them off.
    Saying "I'll look into it & get back to you" is no good for the kid looking for his on the spot commission.

    I especially love the callers who time the door bell ring to the moment you're putting the kids to bed.
    Or the ones who use your kids use of the front door while going out playing as their opportunity to get their foot in your hallway, that has ended badly before.

    Why is my life infected with these people, if I want to change a supplier I will research it online before making the decision.
    Do these signs that people put up about junk mail & cold calling actually work ?.
    I'd like hear a few other's experiences & if anyone who engages in door to door selling is brave enough to contribute then please do.

    I saw a job ad a few years back for door to door sales staff to sell signs saying no cold calling. I was half tempted to apply just to see peoples reactions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,973 ✭✭✭19543261


    i want someone to come sell me bread


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    what do you do for a living wibbs out of curiosity? public sector?
    GTFO. :D And no.
    I'm often met with a "Oh I've just put the dinner out..." and Im like "Yes, I can smell it, it smells amazing, what are we having?" and next thing I'm having some free dinner. JACKPOT!
    My answer would be "you if you don't bog the hell off. Can't you read the sign? Oh wait, probably not".

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    seamus wrote: »
    Ah lads, TireeTerror has you hook, line and sinker. Tells you that he loves selling door-to-door, that he can charm the pants off anyone, that he ignores your "do not call" sign, that everyone else is clearly a mindless boring idiot and to stick a cherry on top he says he doesn't pay tax.

    He hung a big hook out there with a big juicy worm on it and ye couldn't help yourselves. :D
    True dat, though I have encountered his exact twin, more than once. Your Amway types are a charm for this thinking. Sales "leaders" another. That's the scary part S this type of troll actually exists in the world at large.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    I just feel sorry for them, most will just go on to the next house when you say no thanks. My girlfriend went for an interview to one of these companies and everyone else there was the same, a bunch of young people desperate for some experience so that they might manage to get a job in a shop at some point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭kikidelvin


    I just never answer the door ,just let them feck off in their own good time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭padma


    i sold my own no junk mail signs door to door, made massive money, then got pissed off with the pissing rain and freezing cold and the same thing over and over...what a boring mind numbing job. Now what i do is answer the door when they tell me who theyre with i repeat the name and say no thanks, as if ive had a bad experience, smile and close the door. job done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭DS86


    I think too many folks are much too harsh in their opinions regarding door-to-door sellers. I have personally been involved with a door to door charity job for two years on end, mostly as end in keeping me afloat throughout my student years, and I can vouch for pretty much 99%, if not 100% of door to door sellers, whether collecting for charity for otherwise.

    Two things that must be pointed out here, (a) is that door to door collectors are just trying to make a living, just as everybody is trying to do during this difficult times, and that (b) you would swear from newspapers and online threads like this that Door-to-door sellers get a kick out of annoying homeowners, that we get some kind of sadistic satisfaction out of bothering you, and lifting you off of your sofa after a hard day's work. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    I, as a door-to-door salesman, or collector or whatever the term is in relation to relation to charity work....and pretty much anybody I know within this field absolutely despises this field of work. It truly is the most soul-destroying, monotonous work that very few would take on, even during these recessionary times.

    I have some questions to some of the harshest of critics of door-to-door work, (a) have you actually done this type of work, and (b) do you realise how hard and nerve wrecking it is to go somebody's front door and ask them for a donation?

    Door-to-door selling has to be one of the most soul-destroying jobs on the market. I have been doing this for 2 long years for charity, and it has come to the stage whereby I am literally finding it next to impossible to go out and collect a few euros for charity, because of past experiences - most especially from folks who all but slam the door in your face.

    And no I'm not selling some useless window cleaning product etc. I'm collecting for a very genuine cause, and even I cannot stomach it anymore, given how things have worked out over the past 2 years.

    Dear posters, I realise that it must be irritating getting door-to-door sellers at your door, particularly after a hard day’s work, and most especially if they are selling some stupid crap that nobody needs in fairness. Unfortunately, that rubs off on others who are collecting for genuine causes, it seems that folks just lump us all into the one category.

    And I never, ever pester anybody beyond the lines given to me, if they say no - I accept that and move on to the next house. Not all of us are pushy and irritating people trying to push themselves upon you, so please understand you.

    And please a bit more compassion. Yes, if you don't want to contribute, then that's your right, but please don't be rude to people who are just trying to make a living through these difficult times, often in service for charities in dire need of extra funding.

    And to top that off, while I've been giving out about my job about a door-to-door salesman to get me through college, I accept many complaints such as (a) pushy and intrusive D2D sales people - they should remove themselves from your presence even upon a simple no, (b) they should not be out past 9pm, (c) they should always ask children for their parents, to try and talk children into a sale is of the lowest and most pathetic form, (d) they should, providing they are collecting for a charity always have an ID badge with photographic identification and a permit signed by the local court permitting them to collect. NEVER give to anybody collecting for charity or otherwise, without an ID badge and District Court signed permit. And if you've any suspicions, contact your local police station, as to collect for non-genuine causes is a serious criminal offence.

    Just thought I'd put that out there. Yes I realise we door-to-door sales people must be the biggest pain in the arse, but please understand that we are just trying to make the best of hard times, this is hardly 2006 with jobs galore about. And hopefully you will never have to resort to this work, as its soul destroying, tedious and would wear many out after a mere week.

    And if you don't want D2D sales people, stop been so overly-dramatic, there's a very simple solution - post "no door to door sales" or "no cold calling" on your doors. That should work.

    All the best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    I think you need a change of job, there are plenty of jobs without doing something you so obviously loathe.

    It is only soul destroying if you don't have the head for it. Genuinely I love it, and even if someone had the cheek to slam the door in my face, which is extremely rare, I really couldn't care less. I do not know what might be happening in their lives at that very point, or if they are just rude all the time, but it is not my place to try and upset anyone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Around here , its the ones selling pillows that have ruined it for all other D2D sellers .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Did it for a week filling in for a sick colleague at an old job. The absolute worst/least rewarding job you can ever do in any walk of life. One of those jobs that you'll never understand how awful it is till you do it. As has been said your Vodafone and your Airtricty types do it for commission only, no basic wage available. Most of these salespeople are given whiteboard training at most from some spoofers and are sent on their way through the country. These are usually the only companies that hire students or young people with no experience and the turnover is crazy.

    That said you're well within your rights to tell them to go away, it's just not as bad getting rejected when you're shown some level of manners rather than being told to **** off. There's bad people in every trade though and arrogant arseholes who think they'll sell anything to anybody and you can be as angry as you want to those. Most salespeople are doing it out of necessity and don't mean to cause any hassle. Just doing a really hard job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    mikeym wrote: »
    I wish I could build a big wall around my house so that no annoying people call....

    Its come to a point were I hate answering the door to anyone that calls.
    I have said it time & time again, just get rid of your doorbell, no need for one in this day and ages, all it facilitates is these intrusive cunts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    rubadub wrote: »
    I have said it time & time again, just get rid of your doorbell, no need for one in this day and ages, all it facilitates is these intrusive cunts

    You do know there are ways to attract a homeowners attention without having to use a doorbell? Letterbox or even a good old fashioned knock on the door itself. Removing a doorbell is a pretty poor way to stop someone knocking on your door, the only advantage is that a door knock may not waken up kids so easily if they are being put to sleep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    You do know there are ways to attract a homeowners attention without having to use a doorbell?
    Yes, friends and family ring me on my phone.
    Removing a doorbell is a pretty poor way to stop someone knocking on your door
    I find it an excellent way to stop intrusive interruptions. When I moved in I had no doorbell, almost 10 years on I can tell you I have only heard knocks on the door about 5 times.

    I am sure plenty more have knocked, but not hard enough to bother me or alert me, which is what I am recommending it for. So it might be a poor way to stop someone physically knocking but that is not really what people want to prevent. What you call the "only advantage" is the main one, I would hardly call it "only" as though its of little benefit.

    If a neighbour did not have my number and wanted to alert me to there being e.g. a fire in the house they would hammer the door really hard, knowing this would not cause upset. -Just as I would if my neighbour had no bell. While I have never come across an uninvited interrupting cunt who had the balls to hammer down my door until I answered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Wooha


    seamus wrote: »
    Saw a post on reddit once that made me laugh where someone said, "I put this sign up so that cold callers wouldn't wake up the baby. Ten years now and not a single salesperson has knocked on my door"

    Seriously though, we actually have a handwritten sign that says the baby's asleep, don't ring the doorbell. We usually only put it up when the baby is asleep, but we often forget, so we see salespeople wandering around the estate and then wonder why they didn't bother us :D

    We've the same. Baby used to nap in the hallway and woke up whenever the door bell rang. We meant to take it down when he's awake, but it has been up for at least 5 months at this stage, works brilliantly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭kikidelvin


    DS86 wrote: »
    I think too many folks are much too harsh in their opinions regarding door-to-door sellers. I have personally been involved with a door to door charity job for two years on end, mostly as end in keeping me afloat throughout my student years, and I can vouch for pretty much 99%, if not 100% of door to door sellers, whether collecting for charity for otherwise.

    Two things that must be pointed out here, (a) is that door to door collectors are just trying to make a living, just as everybody is trying to do during this difficult times, and that (b) you would swear from newspapers and online threads like this that Door-to-door sellers get a kick out of annoying homeowners, that we get some kind of sadistic satisfaction out of bothering you, and lifting you off of your sofa after a hard day's work. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    I, as a door-to-door salesman, or collector or whatever the term is in relation to relation to charity work....and pretty much anybody I know within this field absolutely despises this field of work. It truly is the most soul-destroying, monotonous work that very few would take on, even during these recessionary times.

    I have some questions to some of the harshest of critics of door-to-door work, (a) have you actually done this type of work, and (b) do you realise how hard and nerve wrecking it is to go somebody's front door and ask them for a donation?

    Door-to-door selling has to be one of the most soul-destroying jobs on the market. I have been doing this for 2 long years for charity, and it has come to the stage whereby I am literally finding it next to impossible to go out and collect a few euros for charity, because of past experiences - most especially from folks who all but slam the door in your face.

    And no I'm not selling some useless window cleaning product etc. I'm collecting for a very genuine cause, and even I cannot stomach it anymore, given how things have worked out over the past 2 years.

    Dear posters, I realise that it must be irritating getting door-to-door sellers at your door, particularly after a hard day’s work, and most especially if they are selling some stupid crap that nobody needs in fairness. Unfortunately, that rubs off on others who are collecting for genuine causes, it seems that folks just lump us all into the one category.

    And I never, ever pester anybody beyond the lines given to me, if they say no - I accept that and move on to the next house. Not all of us are pushy and irritating people trying to push themselves upon you, so please understand you.

    And please a bit more compassion. Yes, if you don't want to contribute, then that's your right, but please don't be rude to people who are just trying to make a living through these difficult times, often in service for charities in dire need of extra funding.

    And to top that off, while I've been giving out about my job about a door-to-door salesman to get me through college, I accept many complaints such as (a) pushy and intrusive D2D sales people - they should remove themselves from your presence even upon a simple no, (b) they should not be out past 9pm, (c) they should always ask children for their parents, to try and talk children into a sale is of the lowest and most pathetic form, (d) they should, providing they are collecting for a charity always have an ID badge with photographic identification and a permit signed by the local court permitting them to collect. NEVER give to anybody collecting for charity or otherwise, without an ID badge and District Court signed permit. And if you've any suspicions, contact your local police station, as to collect for non-genuine causes is a serious criminal offence.

    Just thought I'd put that out there. Yes I realise we door-to-door sales people must be the biggest pain in the arse, but please understand that we are just trying to make the best of hard times, this is hardly 2006 with jobs galore about. And hopefully you will never have to resort to this work, as its soul destroying, tedious and would wear many out after a mere week.

    And if you don't want D2D sales people, stop been so overly-dramatic, there's a very simple solution - post "no door to door sales" or "no cold calling" on your doors. That should work.

    All the best.

    Should you not have been at your studies ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭FullblownRose


    Yeah Ive met your type before, spouting all the hardman talk on the internet, the typical keyboard warrior. In reality usually the louder people shout online, the more timid they are in real life. Usually they are victims of a poor childhood, bullying at school etc etc, so ranting on forums online is a way for them to feel more manly.

    The mere fact you think all of these companies are scamming you just says it all, closed mind and not able to see a better offer when its staring you in the face. If you feel so desperate as you sound, perhaps you should ask the companies concerned to add you to their "Do Not Call" register and your address will be removed from the handheld devices most modern salesforces use.

    15 years knocking on doors and I can assure you I have met every single type of person and its extremely rare that anyone is overly aggressive, its not easy to be aggressive to someone who is charming and good looking and well presented and knows their product inside out. In fact several timers per day as I'm acquiring the customers bank details, they would say "You know I dont normally ever do this, switch at the door, I dont even know why I am now....." and I just smile and tell them "I get that all the time!".

    Regardless of what anyone posts up here, most people love a bit of charm, especially in Ireland where its seriously lacking in general day to day exchanges. I have never met so many moody and depressed people serving me in shops than I have in Ireland, its quite frankly unbelievable considering employers have a huge choice given the unemployment levels at present. The other day a woman from Nigeria I think, served me at my local Aldi and she was bursting with enthusiasm, scanning items at 1000 miles per hour, chatting away, joking and laughing, it was a great thing to see. When I looked up from putting my pin number in the card machine, I could see all the people in the queue behind me smiling at the way she was behaving. Posting this reminds me that I promised myself that I would email Aldi to let them know how great a job she was doing.


    Gosh. I have not ot the same impressions of Irish people as you. Is it possible that they are moody and depressed because they are faced with a customer who clearly believes themself to be good looking and charming? I have t wonder what they were really smiling about...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 209 ✭✭To Need a Woman


    I did cold calling before, never again! Exhausting


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Prepay power guy this evening. Felt sorry for him really. But Electric Ireland give me the best rates so thanks but no thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Pakistani man rings me from 3 wanting to give a lovely phone :mad:
    Him: You have 3 internet with us I want to offer you this lovely phone, it' the most lovely phone ever.

    Me: I am already in a 2 year contract with o2

    Him: Maybe you would like a second phone or someone in your family would like a phone?

    Me: Listen if you a trying to get me into a contract forget it.

    Him: It's the most lovely phone.

    Me: I don't want a phone, I have an iphone and my family have iphones and I also have enough bills already, good bye.

    Him: Have a nice day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Snake


    My friend has Sky TV and Sky Broadband because of those people calling to the house..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    It should not be allowed in my opinion. If I wanted to change my tv, electricity, gas etc I would do it myself . I had prepay power three or four times in the last two weeks, airtricity call a lot and a variety of ever more random charities. I politely decline all at this stage before they try and sell me anything. It is annoying. When you are in the middle of something and answer the door only to have someone there trying to sell some tat.

    I am always polite but I find on occasion the people selling stuff can be less so and can be a bit pushy. There are enough ways to advertise without pushing your company/charities on to peoples doorsteps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Galway K9


    Wanna hear the ***** I've had called to the door.

    Charity rep: hello I'm looking for sign ups for ispcc to help children
    Me: sorry can't afford anymore, I'm already donating to dogs trust
    Charity rep: you will help a dog but not a kid.
    Me: *slams door* and reports him to ispcc.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 209 ✭✭To Need a Woman


    Galway K9 wrote: »
    Wanna hear the ***** I've had called to the door.

    Charity rep: hello I'm looking for sign ups for ispcc to help children
    Me: sorry can't afford anymore, I'm already donating to dogs trust
    Charity rep: you will help a dog but not a kid.
    Me: *slams door* and reports him to ispcc.
    he's got a point


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Galway K9


    he's got a point

    well ISPCC apologised and he wasnt seen again. I never said that or implied it, I'm already donating to a a charity at the moment, full stop, that needs to be respected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    What have you got against kids?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Buzz Killington the third


    Just tell them you're already using their service!

    Sky, UPC, Eircom: Oh I'm with you already and I have your full package.
    Airtricity, Electricity Ireland, Bord Gais: Sure I already have gas and electricity with you.
    Charities: I've already adopted a dog/cat/African baby/endangered snow leopard.
    TV License: I'm just house sitting.


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